NSG Senate Lobby: What Does Marcellus Wallace Look Like?

[Argentarino]

MoFA is up!
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[The Nihilistic view]

If you want to roleplay your personal distaste for Masalbhumi, then you ought to roleplay it as something that's been standing for decades — the history explicitly states that the City Council has been in order for a considerable period of time; it's not as if it arose to-day.

The city isn't governing itself. It follows national laws and passes laws of its own. Furthermore, it is an additional roleplay meant to exhibit a legislative power with fewer realism restrictions. Don't look at it if you don't like it, they certainly aren't passing laws outside their suburbs.

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

[Murkwood]

If you want to roleplay your personal distaste for Masalbhumi, then you ought to roleplay it as something that's been standing for decades — the history explicitly states that the City Council has been in order for a considerable period of time; it's not as if it arose to-day.

The city isn't governing itself. It follows national laws and passes laws of its own. Furthermore, it is an additional roleplay meant to exhibit a legislative power with fewer realism restrictions. Don't look at it if you don't like it, they certainly aren't passing laws outside their suburbs.

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

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[The New World Oceania]

If you want to roleplay your personal distaste for Masalbhumi, then you ought to roleplay it as something that's been standing for decades — the history explicitly states that the City Council has been in order for a considerable period of time; it's not as if it arose to-day.

The city isn't governing itself. It follows national laws and passes laws of its own. Furthermore, it is an additional roleplay meant to exhibit a legislative power with fewer realism restrictions. Don't look at it if you don't like it, they certainly aren't passing laws outside their suburbs.

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

That follows the same logic as the claim that sandals are illegal until legislation legalizes them.

[The Nihilistic view]

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

That follows the same logic as the claim that sandals are illegal until legislation legalizes them.

From the GEA

a. The parliament shall be the unicameral legislature of the Calaverde and shall have sole authority to make and amend laws within Calaverde unless otherwise explicitly delegated by the parliament.

So yes we are a unitary state and only the national parliament may make laws currently.

[New Zepuha]

If you want to roleplay your personal distaste for Masalbhumi, then you ought to roleplay it as something that's been standing for decades — the history explicitly states that the City Council has been in order for a considerable period of time; it's not as if it arose to-day.

The city isn't governing itself. It follows national laws and passes laws of its own. Furthermore, it is an additional roleplay meant to exhibit a legislative power with fewer realism restrictions. Don't look at it if you don't like it, they certainly aren't passing laws outside their suburbs.

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

You're right, they have no power to pass laws.

[The Nihilistic view]

Ah good so it will disappear then until such a time as we have a national local government act.

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Here, have a sausage roll.

[The New World Oceania]

That follows the same logic as the claim that sandals are illegal until legislation legalizes them.

From the GEA

a. The parliament shall be the unicameral legislature of the Calaverde and shall have sole authority to make and amend laws within Calaverde unless otherwise explicitly delegated by the parliament.

So yes we are a unitary state and only the national parliament may make laws currently.

Within Calaverde, meaning the nation Calaverde.

Regardless of any legal arguments you make, you're not going to take Masalbhumi unless you genocide its citizens. It's a majority Muslim city that has been run by the same tiny government for decades and adheres to Calaverdean laws within reason. It conducts a police force and a court system and allows the unitary government to conduct criminal investigations. If Boris can sway the President to order the military to spend millions on freeing Masalbhumi from itself, go ahead.

Otherwise, if your dissent is as OOC as you are making evident, I suggest you personally ignore it.

[The Nihilistic view]

From the GEA

a. The parliament shall be the unicameral legislature of the Calaverde and shall have sole authority to make and amend laws within Calaverde unless otherwise explicitly delegated by the parliament.

So yes we are a unitary state and only the national parliament may make laws currently.

Within Calaverde, meaning the nation Calaverde.

Regardless of any legal arguments you make, you're not going to take Masalbhumi unless you genocide its citizens. It's a majority Muslim city that has been run by the same tiny government for decades and adheres to Calaverdean laws within reason. It conducts a police force and a court system and allows the unitary government to conduct criminal investigations. If Boris can sway the President to order the military to spend millions on freeing Masalbhumi from itself, go ahead.

Otherwise, if your dissent is as OOC as you are making evident, I suggest you personally ignore it.

Which will happen the moment you actually try and pass or enforce anything. BOOM the rough hand of the law on your door.

We will be freeing the oppressed majority of non Muslims that live there.

[Argentarino]

From the GEA

a. The parliament shall be the unicameral legislature of the Calaverde and shall have sole authority to make and amend laws within Calaverde unless otherwise explicitly delegated by the parliament.

So yes we are a unitary state and only the national parliament may make laws currently.

Within Calaverde, meaning the nation Calaverde.

Regardless of any legal arguments you make, you're not going to take Masalbhumi unless you genocide its citizens. It's a majority Muslim city that has been run by the same tiny government for decades and adheres to Calaverdean laws within reason. It conducts a police force and a court system and allows the unitary government to conduct criminal investigations. If Boris can sway the President to order the military to spend millions on freeing Masalbhumi from itself, go ahead.

Otherwise, if your dissent is as OOC as you are making evident, I suggest you personally ignore it.

If Masalbhumi is, as you said in your OP, a city within Calaverde, then it is subject to all laws of the nation of Calaverde. Unless you decide you are going to try to declare independence - a move I would not recommend - then I'm sorry, but you have no argument.

[The New World Oceania]

Within Calaverde, meaning the nation Calaverde.

Regardless of any legal arguments you make, you're not going to take Masalbhumi unless you genocide its citizens. It's a majority Muslim city that has been run by the same tiny government for decades and adheres to Calaverdean laws within reason. It conducts a police force and a court system and allows the unitary government to conduct criminal investigations. If Boris can sway the President to order the military to spend millions on freeing Masalbhumi from itself, go ahead.

Otherwise, if your dissent is as OOC as you are making evident, I suggest you personally ignore it.

Which will happen the moment you actually try and pass or enforce anything. BOOM the rough hand of the law on your door.

We will be freeing the oppressed majority of non Muslims that live there.

You don't get to decide what other people's characters, establishments, or constituencies do. Masalbhumi is majority Muslim, end of discussion. Have you ever roleplayed?

Within Calaverde, meaning the nation Calaverde.

Regardless of any legal arguments you make, you're not going to take Masalbhumi unless you genocide its citizens. It's a majority Muslim city that has been run by the same tiny government for decades and adheres to Calaverdean laws within reason. It conducts a police force and a court system and allows the unitary government to conduct criminal investigations. If Boris can sway the President to order the military to spend millions on freeing Masalbhumi from itself, go ahead.

Otherwise, if your dissent is as OOC as you are making evident, I suggest you personally ignore it.

If Masalbhumi is, as you said in your OP, a city within Calaverde, then it is subject to all laws of the nation of Calaverde. Unless you decide you are going to try to declare independence - a move I would not recommend - then I'm sorry, but you have no argument.

Until you roleplay thousands of police officers marching on the constituency, and unless the hand of god enforces the law, it's going to act autonomously. The City Council, as it quite clearly reads in the history section, has been ruling for twenty years. Pass legislation if you're going to coup a small government managing a city which supports them.

[The Nihilistic view]

Which will happen the moment you actually try and pass or enforce anything. BOOM the rough hand of the law on your door.

We will be freeing the oppressed majority of non Muslims that live there.

You don't get to decide what other people's characters, establishments, or constituencies do. Masalbhumi is majority Muslim, end of discussion. Have you ever roleplayed?

You don't get to decide on your own how many Muslims there are in the nation. End of, Have you never role played in the senate before? Your constituency is not one 12th of the entire population and they are not mostly Muslim. Deal with it.

[New Zepuha]

Which will happen the moment you actually try and pass or enforce anything. BOOM the rough hand of the law on your door.

We will be freeing the oppressed majority of non Muslims that live there.

You don't get to decide what other people's characters, establishments, or constituencies do. Masalbhumi is majority Muslim, end of discussion. Have you ever roleplayed?

Don't call into question his character, that is not what this is about. You are mad that the law does not support your pipe dream.

[Lykens]

Why don't we all cool down and wait for an admin to get on, because this isn't going to end well for anyone.

[Maklohi Vai]

Why don't we all cool down and wait for an admin to get on, because this isn't going to end well for anyone.

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

[Intermountain States]

Why don't we all cool down and wait for an admin to get on, because this isn't going to end well for anyone.

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

It mentioned that it follows Sharia in court, is that allowed?

[The Nihilistic view]

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

It mentioned that it follows Sharia in court, is that allowed?

Oh yeah this is the other law thing. Nothing in the Judiciary act so no is my interpretation.

[Lykens]

Why don't we all cool down and wait for an admin to get on, because this isn't going to end well for anyone.

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

They're currently concerned about one million muslims in the IRC, and want an official religious make up.

[The Nihilistic view]

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

They're currently concerned about one million muslims in the IRC, and want an official religious make up.

We never finalized it but the religious proposals from before IIRC had about 0.5% Muslim I think.

[Maklohi Vai]

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

It mentioned that it follows Sharia in court, is that allowed?

For the city court, and trials in which there are city prosecutors and what not, I think that would be ok. Is there more depth to this?

[Maklohi Vai]

What a good idea.

Here's what I can say for certain:
There are Muslims in Calaverde, and it is plausible that there would be a small Muslim community that is its own constituency. That's perfectly fine. We have allowed players in the past to dictate the character of their constituency within reason, and I see this as being within reason.

As for the law thing, Nihil is correct in saying that we don't have a local government act yet. The City Council can make laws for the constituency and dictate things, but ultimately it is not legally binding until a local government act is put into place.

Is that all I need to address?

They're currently concerned about one million muslims in the IRC, and want an official religious make up.

It's not one million; that's far too high for the region. Religious makeup should be a vote that goes through the lobby.

[The Nihilistic view]

It mentioned that it follows Sharia in court, is that allowed?

For the city court, and trials in which there are city prosecutors and what not, I think that would be ok. Is there more depth to this?

The Judiciary act lays out our legal system. If it's not in that act then it's not legal.

[Maklohi Vai]

For the city court, and trials in which there are city prosecutors and what not, I think that would be ok. Is there more depth to this?

The Judiciary act lays out our legal system. If it's not in that act then it's not legal.

Well if they follow the NJA but choose to follow Sharia as well, that would be fine.

[New Zepuha]

The Judiciary act lays out our legal system. If it's not in that act then it's not legal.

Well if they follow the NJA but choose to follow Sharia as well, that would be fine.

I feel like this shouldn't be an admin choice, and should be left up to our high courts. Unless admins are that again.

[Lykens]

Well if they follow the NJA but choose to follow Sharia as well, that would be fine.

I feel like this shouldn't be an admin choice, and should be left up to our high courts. Unless admins are that again.

They are.