[NSGS] Free Citizens Party

[Alyekra]

Thanks. I hope we can move forward and begin to rebuild the strength of our nations' economic right wing.

Our parties will have to work more closely than ever to make up for the loss of the FDP.

No matter how much closer you work together, you can make up fifteen seats.

We don't have a choice.

[Lykens]

No matter how much closer you work together, you can make up fifteen seats.

We don't have a choice.

Oh crap.

Damn autocorrect, that should've been 'you can't make up fifteen seats'

[Alyekra]

We don't have a choice.

Oh crap.

Damn autocorrect, that should've been 'you can't make up fifteen seats'

I figured as much :)

[Alyekra]

Members of the FCP,

Murkwood has rescinded his offensive statements toward our party and our ideology. Hopefully this will mark the end of the hostilities from PT. However, it is not a guarantee. I implore my fellow party members to forgive Murkwood and allow us to begin anew on a blank slate, and, if he does not cease hostilities, to treat him, as with all other opponents, with graciousness. We cannot meet our goals of peace and prosperity with in-fighting and vitriol.

[Zurkerx]

What the bloody hell?

Yeah, it's been crazy for the last couple of day. Hopefully, we all can leave this behind.

Members of the FCP,

Murkwood has rescinded his offensive statements toward our party and our ideology. Hopefully this will mark the end of the hostilities from PT. However, it is not a guarantee. I implore my fellow party members to forgive Murkwood and allow us to begin anew on a blank slate, and, if he does not cease hostilities, to treat him, as with all other opponents, with graciousness. We cannot meet our goals of peace and prosperity with in-fighting and vitriol.

I'm just glad we put aside all of the comments. However, don't be offended by little things, you can see where that got us. Attack the issues at hand, not what our friends and foes say personally about us. We have a lot of work to do, let's do this.

[The Liberated Territories]

What the bloody hell?

Yeah, it's been crazy for the last couple of day. Hopefully, we all can leave this behind.

Members of the FCP,

Murkwood has rescinded his offensive statements toward our party and our ideology. Hopefully this will mark the end of the hostilities from PT. However, it is not a guarantee. I implore my fellow party members to forgive Murkwood and allow us to begin anew on a blank slate, and, if he does not cease hostilities, to treat him, as with all other opponents, with graciousness. We cannot meet our goals of peace and prosperity with in-fighting and vitriol.

I'm just glad we put aside all of the comments. However, don't be offended by little things, you can see where that got us. Attack the issues at hand, not what our friends and foes say personally about us. We have a lot of work to do, let's do this.

I agree. I also apologize for any negative remarks I have caused, and switch my priorities to reform to a more freedom friendly Calaverde!

[Zurkerx]

Yeah, it's been crazy for the last couple of day. Hopefully, we all can leave this behind.



I'm just glad we put aside all of the comments. However, don't be offended by little things, you can see where that got us. Attack the issues at hand, not what our friends and foes say personally about us. We have a lot of work to do, let's do this.

I agree. I also apologize for any negative remarks I have caused, and switch my priorities to reform to a more freedom friendly Calaverde!

Not to worry, we will get through this, together. I have some ideas how to do so if you are interested. I still have to work them out but, we will succeed, I believe we can.

[Battlion]

Can I ask why members of this party, which says in it's platform that it supports the equal treatment of all people under the eyes of the law, are voting against the Marriage & Civil Partnership Act?

Which gives equal treatment to all people under the eyes of the law

[Zurkerx]

Can I ask why members of this party, which says in it's platform that it supports the equal treatment of all people under the eyes of the law, are voting against the Marriage & Civil Partnership Act?

Which gives equal treatment to all people under the eyes of the law

Members of this party are free to vote however they like. While I may not agree on why they voted against that bill, I do not speak for every individual within this party. They have the right to vote for what they think is right. Ask them why they voted against it, I can't speak for them on their opinion.

[The Liberated Territories]

Can I ask why members of this party, which says in it's platform that it supports the equal treatment of all people under the eyes of the law, are voting against the Marriage & Civil Partnership Act?

Which gives equal treatment to all people under the eyes of the law

Except senator, people already have equality under the eyes of the law before the implementation of this bill. If we give any group of people special status, are they really equal under the law? No. Before the bill, was there any bill limiting gays to be married? No.

[Battlion]

Can I ask why members of this party, which says in it's platform that it supports the equal treatment of all people under the eyes of the law, are voting against the Marriage & Civil Partnership Act?

Which gives equal treatment to all people under the eyes of the law

Except senator, people already have equality under the eyes of the law before the implementation of this bill. If we give any group of people special status, are they really equal under the law? No. Before the bill, was there any bill limiting gays to be married? No.

No currently, the law which was blank, had no structure for marriage registration and allowed children to get married to their parents.

This law places some well needed structure on Marriages and is also providing a secular option of civil partnerships, people voting against are voting against based on one line of the bill and we could even go further to suggest are supporting the status quo of legal incest.

This bill was not solely about LGBT rights, but somehow it has become about it.

Additionally, how can the law give equal treatment... without any law?

[New Werpland]

aye wanna create a centrist coalition?

[The Nihilistic view]

Can I ask why members of this party, which says in it's platform that it supports the equal treatment of all people under the eyes of the law, are voting against the Marriage & Civil Partnership Act?

Which gives equal treatment to all people under the eyes of the law

Except senator, people already have equality under the eyes of the law before the implementation of this bill. If we give any group of people special status, are they really equal under the law? No. Before the bill, was there any bill limiting gays to be married? No.

Actually in English Common law I believe same sex marriage is not valid.

[The Liberated Territories]

Except senator, people already have equality under the eyes of the law before the implementation of this bill. If we give any group of people special status, are they really equal under the law? No. Before the bill, was there any bill limiting gays to be married? No.

No currently, the law which was blank, had no structure for marriage registration and allowed children to get married to their parents.

This law places some well needed structure on Marriages and is also providing a secular option of civil partnerships, people voting against are voting against based on one line of the bill and we could even go further to suggest are supporting the status quo of legal incest.

This bill was not solely about LGBT rights, but somehow it has become about it.

Additionally, how can the law give equal treatment... without any law?

I am certain such trivialities can be worked out someplace else.

All men are born equal and have equal liberties - including the liberty to get married to another. The law is meant to uphold this basic equality, not create inequalities where none existed!

What's wrong with incest?

[Battlion]

No currently, the law which was blank, had no structure for marriage registration and allowed children to get married to their parents.

This law places some well needed structure on Marriages and is also providing a secular option of civil partnerships, people voting against are voting against based on one line of the bill and we could even go further to suggest are supporting the status quo of legal incest.

This bill was not solely about LGBT rights, but somehow it has become about it.

Additionally, how can the law give equal treatment... without any law?

I am certain such trivialities can be worked out someplace else.

All men are born equal and have equal liberties - including the liberty to get married to another. The law is meant to uphold this basic equality, not create inequalities where none existed!

What's wrong with incest?

"Everything is wrong with incest, I look forward to you changing your vote as I agree all men are born equal and have equal liberties and that includes getting married to each other."

[Atlanticatia]

No currently, the law which was blank, had no structure for marriage registration and allowed children to get married to their parents.

This law places some well needed structure on Marriages and is also providing a secular option of civil partnerships, people voting against are voting against based on one line of the bill and we could even go further to suggest are supporting the status quo of legal incest.

This bill was not solely about LGBT rights, but somehow it has become about it.

Additionally, how can the law give equal treatment... without any law?

I am certain such trivialities can be worked out someplace else.

All men are born equal and have equal liberties - including the liberty to get married to another. The law is meant to uphold this basic equality, not create inequalities where none existed!

What's wrong with incest?

A five year old child can't exactly consent to marriage. Yet before this law there was nothing legally against a fifty year old marrying a five year old.

[The Liberated Territories]

I am certain such trivialities can be worked out someplace else.

All men are born equal and have equal liberties - including the liberty to get married to another. The law is meant to uphold this basic equality, not create inequalities where none existed!

What's wrong with incest?

"Everything is wrong with incest, I look forward to you changing your vote as I agree all men are born equal and have equal liberties and that includes getting married to each other."

Then you'd vote against it, since it's ultimately redundant, as there is currently nothing stopping gays to get married. Or have multiple gay spouses, for that matter.

[Battlion]

"Everything is wrong with incest, I look forward to you changing your vote as I agree all men are born equal and have equal liberties and that includes getting married to each other."

Then you'd vote against it, since it's ultimately redundant, as there is currently nothing stopping gays to get married. Or have multiple gay spouses, for that matter.

A vote against is a vote for no law whatsoever and a vote for child abuse, which is what incest and marriage with children ultimately is.

[The Nihilistic view]

"Everything is wrong with incest, I look forward to you changing your vote as I agree all men are born equal and have equal liberties and that includes getting married to each other."

Then you'd vote against it, since it's ultimately redundant, as there is currently nothing stopping gays to get married. Or have multiple gay spouses, for that matter.

How many times do I have to say English Common law does not consider same sex marriages valid?

[Battlion]

Then you'd vote against it, since it's ultimately redundant, as there is currently nothing stopping gays to get married. Or have multiple gay spouses, for that matter.

How many times do I have to say English Common law does not consider same sex marriages valid?

This so much

[The Liberated Territories]

Then you'd vote against it, since it's ultimately redundant, as there is currently nothing stopping gays to get married. Or have multiple gay spouses, for that matter.

How many times do I have to say English Common law does not consider same sex marriages valid?

Please screw off. No one here consented to your crappy law system.

[Heraklea-]

How many times do I have to say English Common law does not consider same sex marriages valid?

Please screw off. No one here consented to your crappy law system.

Actually, it was established by the National Judiciary Act. I would have voted against had I realized that was in there.

[The Nihilistic view]

How many times do I have to say English Common law does not consider same sex marriages valid?

Please screw off. No one here consented to your crappy law system.

Actually Parliament did when they passed the NJA.

[The Liberated Territories]

Attention everyone:

Breathing is now illegal since it wasn't inscribed in English Common Law.

Also we'll tax the breaths taken from the commonly held air.

[Battlion]

Please screw off. No one here consented to your crappy law system.

Actually Parliament did when they passed the NJA.

"hear hear"