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Belmaria
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Postby Belmaria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 10:28 pm

Also, since the party voted to have a parliamentary leader in the planning thread, when are we holding that election?
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Postby Skeckoa » Mon Jan 05, 2015 12:41 am

Belmaria wrote:Also, since the party voted to have a parliamentary leader in the planning thread, when are we holding that election?
Do you really want to have it before the election? Or after? First priority should be the president and organizing that, no?
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Postby New Zepuha » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:15 am

I'm fine with it.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Jan 05, 2015 11:10 am

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Any pro-LGBT senators here?
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:27 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Also, since the party voted to have a parliamentary leader in the planning thread, when are we holding that election?
Do you really want to have it before the election? Or after? First priority should be the president and organizing that, no?


I agree with the fact that organizing the president, as of now, is more important.
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Postby Belmaria » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:31 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Skeckoa wrote: Do you really want to have it before the election? Or after? First priority should be the president and organizing that, no?


I agree with the fact that organizing the president, as of now, is more important.

Well, usually the party leader is the de facto party candidate for PM in most Westminster systems, so I think that should come after the presidential election.
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How do I join?
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Postby Williamson » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:04 pm

New Hampshire Republic wrote:How do I join?

did you apply to the senate.

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Williamson wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:How do I join?

did you apply to the senate.


Yep, I was just wondering if there was an application.
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Postby Williamson » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:11 pm

New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Williamson wrote:did you apply to the senate.


Yep, I was just wondering if there was an application.

nope.

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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:14 pm

Williamson wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Yep, I was just wondering if there was an application.

nope.


Cool. So, I
m a member now?
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:22 pm

New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Williamson wrote:nope.


Cool. So, I
m a member now?


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Postby Belmaria » Mon Jan 05, 2015 8:36 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
New Hampshire Republic wrote:
Cool. So, I
m a member now?


Yes you are. Welcome to the party!

Indeed. I hope you enjoy your stay.
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:48 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:
Sure.



Also, since multiple people are attempting to run for president from the same party, we should have a run-off right here.


Alright then. It's "(El) Partido de los Cidudanos Libres".

You made a little typo: it should be ''Ciudadanos'' not ''Cidudanos.''


Not a tag.

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Postby Lolomz » Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:00 am

There Is a chance of Separating Religion from state Bill will pass on the senate vote ?
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Postby Free Citizens Party » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:09 pm

Calimera II wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
Alright then. It's "(El) Partido de los Cidudanos Libres".

You made a little typo: it should be ''Ciudadanos'' not ''Cidudanos.''


Not a tag.


Fixed.

Lolomz wrote:There Is a chance of Separating Religion from state Bill will pass on the senate vote ?


I'd definitely be supportive of that. I'm not sure if our monarchist friends would be however, so it'd have to be an individually crafted bill (as most are) and not explicitly supported by the party. Should we gain the government, I'd tell the president to let that one run without blocking it.

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Postby Murkwood » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:13 pm

Free Citizens Party wrote:
Calimera II wrote:You made a little typo: it should be ''Ciudadanos'' not ''Cidudanos.''


Not a tag.


Fixed.

Lolomz wrote:There Is a chance of Separating Religion from state Bill will pass on the senate vote ?


I'd definitely be supportive of that. I'm not sure if our monarchist friends would be however, so it'd have to be an individually crafted bill (as most are) and not explicitly supported by the party. Should we gain the government, I'd tell the president to let that one run without blocking it.

-TLT

We aren't a Theocratic party. However, we reserve all judgement on such a bill until we see it.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:15 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Free Citizens Party wrote:
Fixed.



I'd definitely be supportive of that. I'm not sure if our monarchist friends would be however, so it'd have to be an individually crafted bill (as most are) and not explicitly supported by the party. Should we gain the government, I'd tell the president to let that one run without blocking it.

-TLT

We aren't a Theocratic party. However, we reserve all judgement on such a bill until we see it.


I'm not saying you were. Just that if there are members who feel strongly against it, we won't endorse it.
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Postby Murkwood » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:16 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
Murkwood wrote:We aren't a Theocratic party. However, we reserve all judgement on such a bill until we see it.


I'm not saying you were. Just that if there are members who feel strongly against it, we won't endorse it.

I can respect that.
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Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.

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Postby Free Citizens Party » Tue Jan 06, 2015 2:41 pm

New members: if you wish to get more involved, there is a few things you can do.

1.) Debate bills in the Coffee Shop
2.) Create a senator portfolio
3.) Roleplay
4.) Chit Chat in the lobby

It's up to you!

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Postby The Union of the West » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:13 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:So I've been thinking about the possibility that we actually do manage to win the presidency (and thus the government).

The first thing we should do is possibly use the president's executive powers to veto any leftist economic bill. Demleft wants an absurd 50% top income tax in a 2nd world nation. Libdem is almost as bad with their expansion of union power. Ergo, we have to make sure that in our few months we got we set a strong stage for future right wing governments by passing bills that limit power (to force them to focus on repealing those first before they pass anything) and setting down some legislation strengthening property rights and making sure the communists don't ever get a foothold.

My goal is the creation of a night-watchman state that I am sure everyone here agrees with fully or at least partially. Once we get a surplus, only then we can introduce some services (such as a NIT), but for the most part we want to keep everything fully voluntary. There should be no laws that contravene the right to self ownership. No hate speech laws, no abortion laws, no gay marriage laws, etc.. To keep our coalition with the PT, we will concede to some things, like giving some localities judicial power in setting their own morality laws, but it should be subject to a democratic vote. I really like the FDP's idea of a citizen's referendum, or whatever, and to solidify our alliance with them I support implementing things like that to keep the people constantly dogging the government. I'm not a huge monarchist fan, but I'd support a referendum, provided that this monarch works in our interest.

Thoughts?

I definitely agree with this, but the vote is over, isn't it?
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:35 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:So I've been thinking about the possibility that we actually do manage to win the presidency (and thus the government).

The first thing we should do is possibly use the president's executive powers to veto any leftist economic bill. Demleft wants an absurd 50% top income tax in a 2nd world nation. Libdem is almost as bad with their expansion of union power. Ergo, we have to make sure that in our few months we got we set a strong stage for future right wing governments by passing bills that limit power (to force them to focus on repealing those first before they pass anything) and setting down some legislation strengthening property rights and making sure the communists don't ever get a foothold.

My goal is the creation of a night-watchman state that I am sure everyone here agrees with fully or at least partially. Once we get a surplus, only then we can introduce some services (such as a NIT), but for the most part we want to keep everything fully voluntary. There should be no laws that contravene the right to self ownership. No hate speech laws, no abortion laws, no gay marriage laws, etc.. To keep our coalition with the PT, we will concede to some things, like giving some localities judicial power in setting their own morality laws, but it should be subject to a democratic vote. I really like the FDP's idea of a citizen's referendum, or whatever, and to solidify our alliance with them I support implementing things like that to keep the people constantly dogging the government. I'm not a huge monarchist fan, but I'd support a referendum, provided that this monarch works in our interest.

Thoughts?

I definitely agree with this, but the vote is over, isn't it?


We decided to extend it (well Bel did) but for how long, I am not sure.
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Postby Skeckoa » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:02 pm

Zurkerx wrote:We decided to extend it (well Bel did) but for how long, I am not sure.
How about 24 hours?
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:41 pm

Skeckoa wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:We decided to extend it (well Bel did) but for how long, I am not sure.
How about 24 hours?


That sounds good starting now?
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Postby New Hampshire Republic » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:56 pm

If anyone isn't running for VP from this party, may I?
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