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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:06 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
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Please screw off. No one here consented to your crappy law system.


Actually Parliament did when they passed the NJA.


Except for all the senators who voted no, which wasn't a consent at all.
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The Nihilistic view
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:07 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Attention everyone:

Breathing is now illegal since it wasn't inscribed in English Common Law.

Also we'll tax the breaths taken from the commonly held air.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything ... is_allowed
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:08 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Actually Parliament did when they passed the NJA.


Except for all the senators who voted no, which wasn't a consent at all.


Such is democracy.

So are you going to vote aye or are you going to continue to support marriage being defined as between one man and one woman?
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:08 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Attention everyone:

Breathing is now illegal since it wasn't inscribed in English Common Law.

Also we'll tax the breaths taken from the commonly held air.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything ... is_allowed


So when did English Common Law establish that gay marriage was forbidden?

Do the precedents still apply to Calaverde? I'd be hard pressed to believe so.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:08 pm

So yes, this bill is needed to enable the marriage of same sex and other non traditional couples.
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Postby Atlanticatia » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:08 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
The Liberated Territories wrote:Attention everyone:

Breathing is now illegal since it wasn't inscribed in English Common Law.

Also we'll tax the breaths taken from the commonly held air.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everything ... is_allowed

I was literally just about to posts the link to that :p
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sun Mar 15, 2015 9:10 pm

Atlanticatia wrote:

I was literally just about to posts the link to that :p


:lol:
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Lykens
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Postby Lykens » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:06 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:

Actually Parliament did when they passed the NJA.


Except for all the senators who voted no, which wasn't a consent at all.

I wasn't aware that if we voted nay on a bill, and it still passed, we could completely ignore it.
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Battlion
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Postby Battlion » Mon Mar 16, 2015 6:36 am

Basically, members of the FCP are ignoring their own platform.

That's what we figure from this.

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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:21 pm

Dammit, I missed the catfight.
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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:23 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:


So when did English Common Law establish that gay marriage was forbidden?

Do the precedents still apply to Calaverde? I'd be hard pressed to believe so.

De jure they do, but if someone actually challenges their legality in court they'd be thrown out of court in a heartbeat.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Mon Mar 16, 2015 8:53 pm

I'd like to reiterate this party's support for absolute free speech as a fundamental libertarian value.

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:09 am

The Liberated Territories wrote:I'd like to reiterate this party's support for absolute free speech as a fundamental libertarian value.

#IamCharlie


I am with you on that.

Edit: I will be working most of day, seeing as I am on here a lot. Got to serve the Irish and non-Irish folks. Happy Saint Patrick's Day.
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:19 am

I am not a member of this party, but.. Could the leftists please STOP derailing the threads of the Right-Wing parties? Thank you.

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Postby Vedastia » Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:45 pm

Calimera II wrote:I am not a member of this party, but.. Could the leftists please STOP derailing the threads of the Right-Wing parties? Thank you.

But that's how they operate. They don't respect others' property when it comes to legislation, so why would they respect their opponents' threads?
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Mar 18, 2015 3:38 pm

This has been on my mind for a while now. I am trying to figure out what kind of right-wing Libertarian I am. Don't worry people, I won't give up being a Libertarian. Perhaps I am trying to redefine what a more "logical" Libertarian would be in today's world. Am I still radical? Of course, just a different kind.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:43 pm

There will be an upcoming conference for the Azul Coalition that will discuss a new reform platform, leadership, and organization. Three delegates from the conference will be attending. As Parliamentary Leader, I will be going. Anyone else?
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Postby The Union of the West » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:53 pm

Zurkerx wrote:There will be an upcoming conference for the Azul Coalition that will discuss a new reform platform, leadership, and organization. Three delegates from the conference will be attending. As Parliamentary Leader, I will be going. Anyone else?

I'd be interested in attending.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Mar 18, 2015 4:56 pm

The Union of the West wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:There will be an upcoming conference for the Azul Coalition that will discuss a new reform platform, leadership, and organization. Three delegates from the conference will be attending. As Parliamentary Leader, I will be going. Anyone else?

I'd be interested in attending.


Alright. We just need one more.
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Postby Alyekra » Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:52 am

I'd like to attend. Sign me up.
(FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT'S A JOKE)

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Postby Zurkerx » Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:21 am

Alyekra wrote:I'd like to attend. Sign me up.


God then. It looks like we got three delegates. I just need your senator's name and I will let all of you know when it is up.
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Postby Alyekra » Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:14 am

Zurkerx wrote:
Alyekra wrote:I'd like to attend. Sign me up.


God then. It looks like we got three delegates. I just need your senator's name and I will let all of you know when it is up.


Sure thing, I'm Richard Hickson.

forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=23717817#p23717817
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(FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT'S A JOKE)

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Postby Free Citizens Party » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:01 pm

We'll just do this from now on. Here's the recommended vote. Remember, you can vote however you like because we ain't gonna break your fingers for not doing so.

BCCC: Aye
SPRSM: No recommendation
HAA: Nay
MLA: Aye
GA: No recommendation

~Zurk
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Alyekra
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Postby Alyekra » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:03 pm

Free Citizens Party wrote:We'll just do this from now on. Here's the recommended vote. Remember, you can vote however you like because we ain't gonna break your fingers for not doing so.

BCCC: Aye
SPRSM: No recommendation
HAA: Nay
MLA: Aye
GA: No recommendation

~Zurk


Is vigilante finger-breaking allowed?
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Postby Zurkerx » Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:10 pm

Alyekra wrote:
Free Citizens Party wrote:We'll just do this from now on. Here's the recommended vote. Remember, you can vote however you like because we ain't gonna break your fingers for not doing so.

BCCC: Aye
SPRSM: No recommendation
HAA: Nay
MLA: Aye
GA: No recommendation

~Zurk


Is vigilante finger-breaking allowed?


If you don't get caught, sure why not? However, if we find so bent back fingers, I going to have to break your knuckles.
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