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Postby Osea 767 » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:30 am

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Calaverde Co-determination Act
| Author: Regina Marino (Arkolon | NDP) |
| PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL |
| Sponsors: Balthazar Watanabe (New Werpland | NDP), Agustín Tejeda (Nova Anglicana | Ind.), Zephaniah Kruger (Ikania | LDP), David Vera Cruz (Heraklea- | WA) |

An Act designed to help balance labour laws between employers and employees in Calaverde by providing a framework for a social market economy through the introduction of co-determination programmes in large enterprises.



§1 Programme for Co-determination
1. Applicability
a. The terms set out by this bill will apply to all organisations
i. registered as a commercial enterprise; and that are
ii. headquartered in Calaverde; and
iii. irrespective of how they are owned and managed; and
iv. who have at least two-thousand (2,000) employees

2. Requirements
a. All organisations that apply to this Act, as defined in §1.1 of this bill, must
i. form a supervisory board and
ii. form a management board, elected by the supervisory board
aa. The management board is a corporate executive board, hierarchically subordinate to the supervisory board, and is the managing body of a company and cannot be instructed by any legal person, be they natural or artificial, to act in such a way as to harm the business. Executive board members are personally liable for accepting any such instructions.
b. All organisations that apply to this Act, as defined in §1.1 of this bill, must
i. have a supervisory board of at least 12 members where
ii. at least a quarter of these must be held by a union representative and
iii. at least a quarter of these must be held by a representative elected by the workers of the company and
iv. at least one member of the supervisory board must be a dedicated manager for labour affairs.
c. However, the chairman of the supervisory board must be a shareholder, and must retain the corporate power to act as a tie-breaker in any democratically-conducted decision carried out by the supervisory board.

3. Appointment
a. A union representative, as defined in §1.1bii of this bill, must belong to a registered trade union of Calaverde and must be elected into their position at regular intervals (and at least once every four years) on the supervisory board by the employees of the company they represent.
b. Other representatives, as defined in §1.1biii of this bill, must be elected into their position at regular intervals (and at least once every four years) on the supervisory board by the employees of the company they represent.
c. The manager for labour affairs, as defined in §1.1biv of this bill, must be elected into their position at regular intervals (and at least once every four years) on the supervisory board by the employees of the company they represent.
d. All other members of the supervisory board must be shareholders in the company they represent.


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Postby Heraklea- » Sat Jun 13, 2015 6:35 am

Arkolon wrote:Now that SCEDA has been dropped from this week's schedule and that I've removed it from the queue, here is the amended version of SCEDA that I will bring to the Coffee Shop before putting it back in the queue. Equally, NEZA is separate from SCEDA this time around. I will be fishing for sponsors, just like I am for the Co-determination Act (one more needed!)


Economic Development Act
| Author: Regina Marino (Arkolon | NDP), Antoine Croslan (Mollary | NDP) |
| GOVERNMENT BILL |
| Sponsors: |

An Act to stimulate the growth, expansion, development, and creation of wealth in Calaverde by providing incentives and programmes for its developing commercial enterprises.



§1 Enterprise Investment Scheme
1. Individuals who invest in private enterprises shall receive tax breaks provided that
a. the enterprise does not have over twenty-five (25) employees;
b. the enterprise has not been incorporated for over two (2) years prior to the investment;
c. the enterprise has net assets worth below $300,000;
d. the enterprise does not raise over $225,000 through the Enterprise Investment Scheme;
e. the individual is not an employee of the enterprise;
f. the individual does not hold over thirty percent (30%) of the enterprise's shares;
g. the individual has not invested a sum total exceeding $200,000 into similar enterprises that fall under the tax breaks provided by the Enterprise Investment Schemes.

2. Investors that finance startup projects and enterprises in compliance with $2.1.a-g are to receive the following tax benefits:
a. A tax liability reduction equivalent to fifty percent (50%) of the investment made into an enterprise.
b. A loss relief equivalent to twenty-two point five percent (22.5%) of the investment made into an enterprise if the enterprise fails and files for bankruptcy.
c. Exemption from the Unearned Income Tax (UIT) if the investment records a net positive return.


§2 Work Renumeration Stimulus Programme
1. Private enterprises that increase the median gross wage of the employees on its payroll will receive tax breaks
a. equivalent to a refund of two percent (2%) of gross profit if the real median gross wage of the employees grows by between two percent (2%) and four percent (4%).
b. equivalent to a refund of four percent (4%) of gross profit if the real median gross wage of the employees grows by between four percent (4%) and six percent (6%).
c. equivalent to a refund of ten percent (10%) of gross profit if the real median gross wage of the employees grows by above six percent (6%).


§3 Employment Expansion Program
1. Private enterprises that create jobs will be eligible for the following tax breaks.
a. equivalent to ten percent (10%) of the wages of those newly employed if the private firm expands its staff by between one percent (1%) and ten percent (10%) of its total workforce.
b. equivalent to fifteen percent (15%) of the wages of those newly employed if the private firm expands its staff by more than ten percent (10%) of its total workforce.
c. Pay-outs are to be capped at a maximum of one quarter (25%) of the firms’ gross profits, or at $1,500,000 if 25% exceeds this figure.
d. All new staff employed must receive a contract of twelve (12) months at a minimum in length in order to qualify the firm for this tax break.


§4 The Sovereign Wealth Fund
1. The government will establish a Calaverdean Sovereign Wealth Fund in order to ensure the long-term viability of the welfare state.

2. The Sovereign Wealth Fund will be created from the following funds:
a. The revenue from Carbon Taxes.
b. Any budgetary surplus not needed to pay down the national debt.
c. Any taxation revenue from new natural resources discovered and extracted in Calaverde.
d. Any one-off fines paid to the Calaverdean Central Government.

3. Decisions on investments from the fund are to be carried out by the Central Bank, with the Ministry of Finance given the power to scrutinise decisions.

4. The Sovereign Wealth Fund shall be used in future for the following purposes:
a. The payment of pensions if Calaverde should develop an ageing, dependent population defined in this case as a population where more than one fifth (20%) of the population is over the age of sixty-five (65).
b. In instances of economic malaise where the government is unable to procure stimulus funds from other sources.



Economic Development Act
| Author: Regina Marino (Arkolon | NDP)|
| DRAFT |
| Sponsors: |

An Act to help foster commercial and economic development in Calaverde's developing regions through the introduction of relevant programmes.



§1 New Economic Zone Programme
1. The Ministry of Finance, at the request and/or authorisation of the affected local municipality, shall be granted the authority to designate areas anywhere within Calaverde's sovereign territory to be a 'New Economic Zone' (NEZ).

2. A 'New Economic Zone' (NEZ) is a parcel of land
a. subject to different fiscal legislation than the rest of Calaverde;
b. no greater in area than 25 square kilometres;
c. implemented with specific intent to economically and commercially develop;
d. intended to only be used by private commercial enterprises and;
e. not containing any pre-existing non-commercial buildings.

3. The Ministry of Finance shall be able to designate three different levels of 'New Economic Zones', with these three Zones being
a. Tier I New Economic Zone (NEZ1), where all private enterprises operating within this type of New Economic Zone are subject to a tax of 11% on business profit and where all goods purchased in this area are subject to a Goods and Services Tax (GST) of 5%.
b. Tier II New Economic Zone (NEZ2), where all private enterprises operating within this type of New Economic Zone are subject to a tax of 6.25% on business profit and where all goods purchased in this area are subject to a Goods and Services Tax (GST) of 2.5%.
c. Tier III New Economic Zone (NEZ3), where all private enterprises operating within this type of New Economic Zone are subject to no tax on business profit and where all goods and services in this area are subject to no Goods and Services Tax (GST).

4. Private enterprises wishing to conduct business by relocating to a New Economic Zone must apply to the local municipality in which the New Economic Zone is located, and the municipality must determine whether the private enterprise can operate in a New Economic Zone. The requirements for eligibility to the programme are
a. being a private enterprise, either registered as Calaverdean or foreign;
b. determined to conduct market operations in a New Economic Zone provided that the establishment used either
i. commercially retails a good or service, and/or
ii. produces a marketable good from other materials
c. expresses specific intent to commercially develop within the New Economic Zone by either creating Added Value, hiring members of the local workforce, and/or using the advantageous tax benefits to develop the neighbouring regions.

A. For the purposes of clearer communication, it will be emphasised that only the operations conducted within a New Economic Zone will be taxed at levels described in Section 1, Article 3, Clauses a through c. The headquarters of a company cannot locate itself in a New Economic Zone without performing the duties described in, and conforming to, Article 1, Section 4, clauses a through c of this bill. Additionally, specific taxes on business profit such as those levying funds from companies involved in the tobacco, petroleum, or gambling industries, being those taxes on business profit not covered in the Corporate Tax, would still apply in a New Economic Zone.

Why does the EIS discriminate against worker owned companies? That's the really big thing that jumps out at me during a first read of the EDA. I won't have a chance to more completely read these until tomorrow.

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Postby Collatis » Sat Jun 13, 2015 7:38 am

Maklohi Vai wrote:I have made a few amendments to this bill since it was first introduced, and as such I thought it prudent to remove it from the queue and bring it back to the coffee shop to make it the best bill it can be. The major change is that the threshold for minority language use in government has been raised from 5% to 10%, as the former figure would present too much of a bureaucratic burden. Five sponsors are needed to get this back into the queue.[/box]

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Parliamentary Resolution on Ukraine and Russian Aggression
| Author: Cristobal Araullo (Argentarino | LDP) |
| PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL |
| Sponsors: Kenneth Diaz (Lykens | LDP), Maceo Rodriguez (Britanno 2 | NDP), David Vera Cruz (Heraklea- | WA), Regina Marino (Arkolon | NDP), |

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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:02 pm


Amendment to the National Judiciary Act
Author: Alsafyr Njil (NWO | DL)
Sponsors: Jean-Luc Martin (UPA | IWP), Ah Puch Tecú (Merizoc | IWP)
An act to make a civilized nation.

§1 - Amendment
a) §6 of the National Judiciary Act shall be amended to read
  • "The jury considers the arguments and evidence presented.
  • The jury presents the verdict."
§2 - Effective Date
a) This legislation shall be effective immediately.


Currently, Singapore and Calaverde are the only significant common law nations which don't use jury trials in any circumstance. Juries are imperative for serious criminal cases.
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Postby Argentarino » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:04 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:

Amendment to the National Judiciary Act
Author: Alsafyr Njil (NWO | DL)
Sponsors:
An act to make a civilized nation.

§1 - Amendment
a) §6 of the National Judiciary Act shall be amended to read
  • "The jury considers the arguments and evidence presented.
  • The jury presents the verdict."
§2 - Effective Date
a) This legislation shall be effective immediately.


Currently, Singapore and Calaverde are the only significant common law nations which don't use jury trials in any circumstance. Juries are imperative for serious criminal cases.

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Sponsor to the NJA Amendment. Jean-Luc Martin, IWP.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:09 pm

Dear God, you all realize this is a ploy to allow the most dangerous criminal to terrorize this nation to walk free?
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:10 pm

New Zepuha wrote:Dear God, you all realize this is a ploy to allow the most dangerous criminal to terrorize this nation to walk free?

Nearly every single nation in the world has trial by jury?
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:11 pm

New Zepuha wrote:Dear God, you all realize this is a ploy to allow the most dangerous criminal to terrorize this nation to walk free?

:eyebrow: Trial by jury?

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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:14 pm

Merizoc wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Dear God, you all realize this is a ploy to allow the most dangerous criminal to terrorize this nation to walk free?

:eyebrow: Trial by jury?

Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:15 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Dear God, you all realize this is a ploy to allow the most dangerous criminal to terrorize this nation to walk free?

Nearly every single nation in the world has trial by jury?

That is not what this is about.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:16 pm

Lykens wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :eyebrow: Trial by jury?

Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.

Because a trial by New Zep, who refers to Vienna as "Vienna Cockmuncher" and hates the IWP, is not likely going to be a fair and just trial if he's deciding the verdict.
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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:17 pm

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Lykens wrote:Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.

Because a trial by New Zep, who refers to Vienna as "Vienna Cockmuncher" and hates the IWP, is not likely going to be a fair and just trial if he's deciding the verdict.

I am 99% that New Zep doesn't pick who is the judge of the trial.
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Lykens wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:Because a trial by New Zep, who refers to Vienna as "Vienna Cockmuncher" and hates the IWP, is not likely going to be a fair and just trial if he's deciding the verdict.

I am 99% that New Zep doesn't pick who is the judge of the trial.

New Zep is the judge.
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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:19 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Lykens wrote:I am 99% that New Zep doesn't pick who is the judge of the trial.

New Zep is the judge.

Says who?
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Lykens wrote:
The New World Oceania wrote:New Zep is the judge.

Says who?

New Zepuha wrote:When can I begin the trial of Vienna Cockmunch? I am the trial judge so can I just begin?
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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:22 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Lykens wrote:Says who?

New Zepuha wrote:When can I begin the trial of Vienna Cockmunch? I am the trial judge so can I just begin?

Can and Admin rule on this?

When the NJA called for the admins to be supreme court justices, Kour decided not to be a Justice because he controlled the police.

While this isn't exactly the same caliber of court, I think this still can apply here.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:22 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Lykens wrote:Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.

Because a trial by New Zep, who refers to Vienna as "Vienna Cockmuncher" and hates the IWP, is not likely going to be a fair and just trial if he's deciding the verdict.

Hearsay, you have no evidence to back up the second claim. So what? A lot of people make fun of him like that. Also, Ainin put me in as trial judge.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:25 pm

Lykens wrote:
Merizoc wrote: :eyebrow: Trial by jury?

Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.

That doesn't explain how this lets Vienna go free.

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Postby Lykens » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:26 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Lykens wrote:Yes. NWO said she planned to petition for a jury trial for Vienna Eliot, but there are no jury trials.

That doesn't explain how this lets Vienna go free.

Oh, of course not. New Zep is just exaggerating. But I was just pointing out there were some ulterior motives.
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Postby The New World Oceania » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:28 pm

Lykens wrote:
Merizoc wrote:That doesn't explain how this lets Vienna go free.

Oh, of course not. New Zep is just exaggerating. But I was just pointing out there were some ulterior motives.

No, at the moment you're metagaming. Njil has no incentive to append #JusticeforVienna onto her tweets.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:34 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Lykens wrote:Oh, of course not. New Zep is just exaggerating. But I was just pointing out there were some ulterior motives.

No, at the moment you're metagaming. Njil has no incentive to append #JusticeforVienna onto her tweets.

But it does raise a question of her impartiality in the matter.
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