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§1
(1) Section 2.2 of the Elections Act is struck out and rendered null and void.
(2) A two-round first-past-the-post system shall be used for presidential elections.
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Postby Arkolon » Wed May 27, 2015 4:30 am

Ainin wrote:

First-Past-the-Post Presidential Elections Act
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An Act to establish a first-past-the-post presidential elections system; and for connected purposes.



§1
(1) Section 2.2 of the Elections Act is struck out and rendered null and void.
(2) A two-round first-past-the-post system shall be used for presidential elections.

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Postby Electrum » Wed May 27, 2015 5:11 am

No.

This will mean we will have to hold another election. Wasting money and time, even though it can be done in one count under the current system with the exact same outcome.
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Postby Britanno 2 » Wed May 27, 2015 5:46 am

Electrum wrote:No.

This will mean we will have to hold another election. Wasting money and time, even though it can be done in one count under the current system with the exact same outcome.

I'm sorry, but this system is confusing as fuck when trying to count votes. FPTP is much easier.

Also, we should have presidential elections every two months and reduce the PM term back to one month like when we started out. It boosts activity.
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Postby Heraklea- » Wed May 27, 2015 5:53 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Electrum wrote:No.

This will mean we will have to hold another election. Wasting money and time, even though it can be done in one count under the current system with the exact same outcome.

I'm sorry, but this system is confusing as fuck when trying to count votes. FPTP is much easier.

Also, we should have presidential elections every two months and reduce the PM term back to one month like when we started out. It boosts activity.

It's really quite simple. You rank the candidates in order of preference. Whoever gets ranked 1 on your ballot initially gets your vote. If no one has a majority at that point, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated. The votes awarded to that candidate are redistributed according to who is the next preferred candidate on that ballot. If a ballot has no further ranked candidates, then it is removed from the count. The process is repeated until a candidate has a majority of the votes and they are declared the elected winner.

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Postby The Sarian » Wed May 27, 2015 6:17 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Electrum wrote:No.

This will mean we will have to hold another election. Wasting money and time, even though it can be done in one count under the current system with the exact same outcome.

I'm sorry, but this system is confusing as fuck when trying to count votes. FPTP is much easier.

Also, we should have presidential elections every two months and reduce the PM term back to one month like when we started out. It boosts activity.


It's not that complicated, I've got a spreadsheet working it out for me.
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Postby New Werpland » Wed May 27, 2015 6:49 am

I rescind my sponsorship
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New Werpland wrote:I rescind my sponsorship

Of.
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Postby New Werpland » Wed May 27, 2015 7:27 am

Lykens wrote:
New Werpland wrote:I rescind my sponsorship

Of.

Your leftist legislation.

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New Werpland wrote:
Lykens wrote:Of.

Your leftist legislation.

Which is.
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Postby New Werpland » Wed May 27, 2015 7:34 am

Lykens wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Your leftist legislation.

Which is.

The Quorum Act.

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Postby Lykens » Wed May 27, 2015 7:44 am

New Werpland wrote:
Lykens wrote:Which is.

The Quorum Act.

Which is leftist how.
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Postby Collatis » Wed May 27, 2015 8:20 am

New Werpland wrote:Your leftist legislation.

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Postby Britanno 2 » Wed May 27, 2015 8:43 am

Heraklea- wrote:It's really quite simple. You rank the candidates in order of preference. Whoever gets ranked 1 on your ballot initially gets your vote. If no one has a majority at that point, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated. The votes awarded to that candidate are redistributed according to who is the next preferred candidate on that ballot. If a ballot has no further ranked candidates, then it is removed from the count. The process is repeated until a candidate has a majority of the votes and they are declared the elected winner.

The Sarian wrote:It's not that complicated, I've got a spreadsheet working it out for me.

I do know how AV works guys, but what I'm saying is that it is too complicated to count and I see no advantage over a two round system.
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Postby Lykens » Wed May 27, 2015 8:57 am

Good thing you aren't an admin counting?
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Postby The Sarian » Wed May 27, 2015 9:01 am

Britanno 2 wrote:
Heraklea- wrote:It's really quite simple. You rank the candidates in order of preference. Whoever gets ranked 1 on your ballot initially gets your vote. If no one has a majority at that point, the candidate with the least number of votes is eliminated. The votes awarded to that candidate are redistributed according to who is the next preferred candidate on that ballot. If a ballot has no further ranked candidates, then it is removed from the count. The process is repeated until a candidate has a majority of the votes and they are declared the elected winner.

The Sarian wrote:It's not that complicated, I've got a spreadsheet working it out for me.

I do know how AV works guys, but what I'm saying is that it is too complicated to count and I see no advantage over a two round system.


Saves time, turnout in the second round will be lower and from an IC perspective saves money.
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Postby New Werpland » Wed May 27, 2015 9:07 am

Lykens wrote:
New Werpland wrote:The Quorum Act.

Which is leftist how.

You made it...

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Postby The Sarian » Wed May 27, 2015 9:10 am

New Werpland wrote:
Lykens wrote:Which is leftist how.

You made it...


Hitler made the autobahns, doesn't make motorways fascist...

Also, I'll sponsor the Quorum Act.
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Postby Intermountain States » Wed May 27, 2015 9:16 am

I'll sponsor the Quorum Act as well
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Postby Britanno 2 » Wed May 27, 2015 9:27 am

Lykens wrote:Good thing you aren't an admin counting?

Well fuck me for wanting to save them time. It might also mean they have time to update the OP in the applications thread once in a while.
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Postby Nurkama » Wed May 27, 2015 9:58 am

Ainin wrote:

First-Past-the-Post Presidential Elections Act
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An Act to establish a first-past-the-post presidential elections system; and for connected purposes.



§1
(1) Section 2.2 of the Elections Act is struck out and rendered null and void.
(2) A two-round first-past-the-post system shall be used for presidential elections.


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