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Postby Glasgia » Thu Dec 11, 2014 1:59 pm

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Lib's the only other Market Socialist I've noticed, and he's also a Libertarian Socialist, though there's quite a few I haven't met before in our ranks so maybe I'll have a couple more recruits.


Glas. Someone told me to a expect a TG from you :eyebrow:


Ummm...... Can I ask who?

I'm now kinda worried I was supposed to send you a TG but have completely forgotten :/

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Lib's the only other Market Socialist I've noticed, and he's also a Libertarian Socialist, though there's quite a few I haven't met before in our ranks so maybe I'll have a couple more recruits.


What about Osea? You could also ask Tuva or Abdul.


I'd assume Osea would form a Communist council, or at least join one. Will see if Tuva or Abdul are interested I guess
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Postby Kazirstan » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:01 pm

Has anyone started a State-Socialist council? If so, I'll join it, If not, I'll start one.

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Postby Ravenflight » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:04 pm

Hey can someone help describe my form of socialism. I can't think of a title for it.
So I believe in publication of all the banks, they got us into this mess they got will pay. But I believe some companies can stay so that we don't end up in 1984. I'm very much anti Stalin but I like the idea of world socialism.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Thu Dec 11, 2014 3:17 pm

If you're going to publish banks I would say you were a publicist.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:31 pm

Would you guys be okay if I write a quick party history?
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Postby Margno » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:20 pm

Hey guys. I'm joining the RP for the reboot, probably playing my views straight (if a bit more ruthless and violent.) So, I'm an anarcho communist, and feel that the worker's alliance represents the best hope for the future of placeholderstan. I would like to join the party.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:29 pm

Margno wrote:Hey guys. I'm joining the RP for the reboot, probably playing my views straight (if a bit more ruthless and violent.) So, I'm an anarcho communist, and feel that the worker's alliance represents the best hope for the future of placeholderstan. I would like to join the party.


Welcome. Please join the Libertarian Socialist Council (the anarchist group within the party).
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:29 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Would you guys be okay if I write a quick party history?


I don't think we should do that until the nation history has been set in stone.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:30 pm

Ravenflight wrote:Hey can someone help describe my form of socialism. I can't think of a title for it.
So I believe in publication of all the banks, they got us into this mess they got will pay. But I believe some companies can stay so that we don't end up in 1984. I'm very much anti Stalin but I like the idea of world socialism.


So you believe in some companies, meaning a market in some sort, public banks and....are you an anarchist?
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Postby Counterforce Militia II » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:31 pm

The Counterforce condemns the Workers' Alliance for being too soft.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:32 pm

Counterforce Militia II wrote:The Counterforce condemns the Workers' Alliance for being too soft.


As OP, I ban you from the Planning Thread.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:23 pm

Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that we currently are tied with the Civil Democrats and DemLeft for largest party.

Democratic Left: 16 (18 Claimed
Civic Democrats: 16 (26 Claimed, but only 17 are NSGS Members and one is suspended temporarily)
Workers' Alliance: 16 (All Members are official)
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Dec 11, 2014 7:37 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that we currently are tied with the Civil Democrats and DemLeft for largest party.

Democratic Left: 16 (18 Claimed
Civic Democrats: 16 (26 Claimed, but only 17 are NSGS Members and one is suspended temporarily)
Workers' Alliance: 16 (All Members are official)

And our membership is growing pretty fast, so we could come out in at least 2nd. Not bad for the far-left.

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Postby Heraklea- » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:08 pm

Kazirstan wrote:Has anyone started a State-Socialist council? If so, I'll join it, If not, I'll start one.

I was planning to start one once we reached this point, but I've been more or less incommunicado for the past 36 hrs. That's two of us for the State-Socialist council. Anyone else?
Ravenflight wrote:Hey can someone help describe my form of socialism. I can't think of a title for it.
So I believe in publication of all the banks, they got us into this mess they got will pay. But I believe some companies can stay so that we don't end up in 1984. I'm very much anti Stalin but I like the idea of world socialism.

You seem to be a bit more third way, but its possible you haven't flushed out your ideals enough. Here's one key point to help figure out: do you believe in a centrally planned economy, a system of worker control of corporations or private enterprise heavily regulated by the government?

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:30 pm

Heraklea- wrote:
Kazirstan wrote:Has anyone started a State-Socialist council? If so, I'll join it, If not, I'll start one.

I was planning to start one once we reached this point, but I've been more or less incommunicado for the past 36 hrs. That's two of us for the State-Socialist council. Anyone else?
Ravenflight wrote:Hey can someone help describe my form of socialism. I can't think of a title for it.
So I believe in publication of all the banks, they got us into this mess they got will pay. But I believe some companies can stay so that we don't end up in 1984. I'm very much anti Stalin but I like the idea of world socialism.

You seem to be a bit more third way, but its possible you haven't flushed out your ideals enough. Here's one key point to help figure out: do you believe in a centrally planned economy, a system of worker control of corporations or private enterprise heavily regulated by the government?


Do note you can go off and make your own state socialist council thread, write your own platform, and then elect a member to the Central Committee.
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The New Sea Territory wrote:Hey, just wanted to let everyone know that we currently are tied with the Civil Democrats and DemLeft for largest party.

Democratic Left: 16 (18 Claimed
Civic Democrats: 16 (26 Claimed, but only 17 are NSGS Members and one is suspended temporarily)
Workers' Alliance: 16 (All Members are official)

And our membership is growing pretty fast, so we could come out in at least 2nd. Not bad for the far-left.

At this rate, we seriously could become first.

Also, anyone in communist/socialist/anarchist regions (specify that it's non-Vanguardist), please advertise the party on the RMB.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:49 pm

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Merizoc wrote:And our membership is growing pretty fast, so we could come out in at least 2nd. Not bad for the far-left.

At this rate, we seriously could become first.

Also, anyone in communist/socialist/anarchist regions (specify that it's non-Vanguardist), please advertise the party on the RMB.


Done that already :P
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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:50 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:At this rate, we seriously could become first.

Also, anyone in communist/socialist/anarchist regions (specify that it's non-Vanguardist), please advertise the party on the RMB.


Done that already :P

Could I start an eco-socialist council? I know you were sort of iffy on this.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 8:53 pm

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Done that already :P

Could I start an eco-socialist council? I know you were sort of iffy on this.


I think eco-socialism isn't a one of the major ideological divisions. Secondly, one can't be part of two councils at the same time.

However, if you want, the LibSoc council can start collaborating and trying to write a environmentalist legislation. It could be the first thing the WA pushes forward.
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The New Sea Territory wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Could I start an eco-socialist council? I know you were sort of iffy on this.


I think eco-socialism isn't a one of the major ideological divisions. Secondly, one can't be part of two councils at the same time.

However, if you want, the LibSoc council can start collaborating and trying to write a environmentalist legislation. It could be the first thing the WA pushes forward.

If I were to make an Eco-soc council, I'd leave the LibSocs. But yeah, if you don't want it, then that sounds fine.

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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:33 pm

Well, nevermind. The CivDems currently are the largest party by a longshot, with 26 members. We are tied with the Democratic Left at 16, since on of their members is now independent and one joined the new Sunni Nationalists.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:33 pm

Besides electing CC members and starting council threads, does anyone else want to do anything? Any amendments to the tenets, images, etc?
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The New Sea Territory wrote:Besides electing CC members and starting council threads, does anyone else want to do anything? Any amendments to the tenets, images, etc?

Probably the creation of a youth wing and the creation of either a member of the IWA or section of the IWW, which would be our labour wing.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:57 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Besides electing CC members and starting council threads, does anyone else want to do anything? Any amendments to the tenets, images, etc?

Probably the creation of a youth wing and the creation of either a member of the IWA or section of the IWW, which would be our labour wing.


We could do that once the Central Committee is elected.
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Postby Threlizdun » Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:50 am

New Sea Territory, you appear to be publicly involved with two parties and privately involved with a fascist one (again). I don't know much of anything about the new RP, but I'm pretty sure the basic rule that you can only be in one party will still apply.
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