[NSGS] Placeholderstani Workers' Alliance (Planning)

[MERIZoC]

How would/do the Councils work though?

[The New Sea Territory]

So, I like the current platform. As for party structure, I say we have a system of "councils", where the various ideological groups can create their own council, then elect their one member to the Central Committee of the Alliance.

For example, the Libertarian Socialist Council consists of 4 senators, and the elect Senator [name] to the Central Committee, while the Market Socialist Council consists of 7 senators, and they elect Senator [name]. Each Council only sends one representative, to ensure that one council doesn't dominate the other. Each Council can state it's own goals and ideals, and, so long as it conforms to the basic party points and platform, they can write their own platforms. They are free to create their own organizations and support their own protests/strikes/etc.

All the various councils can write up their own legislation, then run it to the central committee, which will vote whether the alliance as a whole will support it or not. If they vote no, the council can still pass the bill, but the alliance whips won't enforce voting for it. If they vote yes, the entire alliance would support the bill. The same can be done for strikes, occupations or other direct action. A council can propose any action, and the central committee can vote on whether the alliance as a whole will support it or it will be left to that council to act on it's own.

This accurately represents each ideological variant within the party. It allows the alliance to be centralized while maintaining autonomy.

[Kincoboh]

How would/do the Councils work though?

From what I understand, there would be different allied factions, such as the libertarian socialists, syndicalists, the radical ecologists, feminists, etc. and they would draft legislation, propose edits and such based on their own certain faction.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

I've looked over some of the other party pages, and some of them have quotes preceding the first post. We should do something similar, anybody know any good, inspirational communist/socialist quotes? (Preferably not "Workers of the world, Unite!")

"Equality and Freedom are nothing without the other."

Actually came up with that myself, to be honest.

[Dejanic]

A friendly little point I gotta make.

Stop making your polls public, and then maybe people will stop sabotaging them, seriously.

[The New Sea Territory]

A friendly little point I gotta make.

Stop making your polls public, and then maybe people will stop sabotaging them, seriously.

Grr.

[MERIZoC]

So, I like the current platform. As for party structure, I say we have a system of "councils", where the various ideological groups can create their own council, then elect their one member to the Central Committee of the Alliance.

For example, the Libertarian Socialist Council consists of 4 senators, and the elect Senator [name] to the Central Committee, while the Market Socialist Council consists of 7 senators, and they elect Senator [name]. Each Council only sends one representative, to ensure that one council doesn't dominate the other. Each Council can state it's own goals and ideals, and, so long as it conforms to the basic party points and platform, they can write their own platforms. They are free to create their own organizations and support their own protests/strikes/etc.

All the various councils can write up their own legislation, then run it to the central committee, which will vote whether the alliance as a whole will support it or not. If they vote no, the council can still pass the bill, but the alliance whips won't enforce voting for it. If they vote yes, the entire alliance would support the bill. The same can be done for strikes, occupations or other direct action. A council can propose any action, and the central committee can vote on whether the alliance as a whole will support it or it will be left to that council to act on it's own.

This accurately represents each ideological variant within the party. It allows the alliance to be centralized while maintaining autonomy.

How would/do the Councils work though?

From what I understand, there would be different allied factions, such as the libertarian socialists, syndicalists, the radical ecologists, feminists, etc. and they would draft legislation, propose edits and such based on their own certain faction.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Ah, much thanks. Well, I'm up for forming the radical ecologists council.

[MERIZoC]

A friendly little point I gotta make.

Stop making your polls public, and then maybe people will stop sabotaging them, seriously.

Grr.

He does have a point. Maybe TG us links to a straw poll?

[Kazirstan]

I propose an amendment to the platform. In addition to essential utilities and the like being nationalised and provided free-of-cost, Internet should be as well. Imagine... free, unlimited internet.

[Kincoboh]

So, I like the current platform. As for party structure, I say we have a system of "councils", where the various ideological groups can create their own council, then elect their one member to the Central Committee of the Alliance.

For example, the Libertarian Socialist Council consists of 4 senators, and the elect Senator [name] to the Central Committee, while the Market Socialist Council consists of 7 senators, and they elect Senator [name]. Each Council only sends one representative, to ensure that one council doesn't dominate the other. Each Council can state it's own goals and ideals, and, so long as it conforms to the basic party points and platform, they can write their own platforms. They are free to create their own organizations and support their own protests/strikes/etc.

All the various councils can write up their own legislation, then run it to the central committee, which will vote whether the alliance as a whole will support it or not. If they vote no, the council can still pass the bill, but the alliance whips won't enforce voting for it. If they vote yes, the entire alliance would support the bill. The same can be done for strikes, occupations or other direct action. A council can propose any action, and the central committee can vote on whether the alliance as a whole will support it or it will be left to that council to act on it's own.

This accurately represents each ideological variant within the party. It allows the alliance to be centralized while maintaining autonomy.

From what I understand, there would be different allied factions, such as the libertarian socialists, syndicalists, the radical ecologists, feminists, etc. and they would draft legislation, propose edits and such based on their own certain faction.
Please correct me if I am wrong.

Ah, much thanks. Well, I'm up for forming the radical ecologists council.

I'm down for that!

[Dejanic]

I propose an amendment to the platform. In addition to essential utilities and the like being nationalised and provided free-of-cost, Internet should be as well. Imagine... free, unlimited internet.

I think that word is banned here.

[Kazirstan]

I propose an amendment to the platform. In addition to essential utilities and the like being nationalised and provided free-of-cost, Internet should be as well. Imagine... free, unlimited internet.

I think that word is banned here.

In America perhaps, not as much in Canada. Though I doubt we'll see nationalised internet in the near future. Nationalisation is like a swear word in America.

[The New Sea Territory]

I think that word is banned here.

In America perhaps, not as much in Canada. Though I doubt we'll see nationalised internet in the near future. Nationalisation is like a swear word in America.

I wouldn't support that. I don't trust the state with managing the Internet.

[MERIZoC]

In America perhaps, not as much in Canada. Though I doubt we'll see nationalised internet in the near future. Nationalisation is like a swear word in America.

I wouldn't support that. I don't trust the state with managing the Internet.

Trust the collective. I have a dream that one day we will see ISP co-ops.

[The New Sea Territory]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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[Kazirstan]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Ah yes, Weselton, NS's resident "definitely-not-a-Nazi-in-real-life."

[MERIZoC]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Not that I'm complaining or anything, but for what reason?

[The New Sea Territory]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Not that I'm complaining or anything, but for what reason?

IDK. Val TGed all the party leaders.

[Ravenflight]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Not that I'm complaining or anything, but for what reason?

Probably because his flag is the Nazi emblems, which is banned and also probably because he is a fascist ^$°¥

[Kincoboh]

I propose an amendment to the platform. In addition to essential utilities and the like being nationalised and provided free-of-cost, Internet should be as well. Imagine... free, unlimited internet.

We can create a technologist council as well.

[Intermountain States]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Not that I'm complaining or anything, but for what reason?

Generally for spamming threads and ignoring admin rulings

[Dejanic]

The player behind the username Greater Weselton is banned from participating in the NSG Senate RP, and therefore is banned from posting in this thread.

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Ah yes, Weselton, NS's resident "definitely-not-a-Nazi-in-real-life."

If someone has to actually clarify in their sig that they're "not a Nazi", then they're probably a Nazi.

[Heraklea-]

"We are convinced that liberty without socialism is privilege, injustice; and that socialism without liberty is slavery and brutality."

-Mikhail Bakunin

I like that a lot. Here's a good one, if a bit long, by my buddy Murray Bookchin:

“Power to the people' can only be put into practice when the power exercised by social elites is dissolved into the people. Each individual can then take control of his daily life. If 'Power to the people' means nothing more than power to the 'leaders' of the people, then the people remain an undifferentiated, manipulatable mass, as powerless after the revolution as they were before. In the last analysis, the people can never have power until they disappear as a 'people.”
― Murray Bookchin, Post-Scarcity Anarchism

I greatly prefer the Bakunin quote to Bookchin, whose quote can be taken to be explicitly anti-statist and thus runs contrary to my preferred form of of socialism. Still, the Bakunin quote can be seen to criticize socialism to a certain extent (I realize he is highlighting the importance of democracy which we agree with, but still). Why don't we use the quote from Ernst Toller:

The working class will not halt until socialism has been realized.

Or it could be paraphrased

We shall not halt until socialism has been realized.

[The New Sea Territory]

I propose an amendment to the platform. In addition to essential utilities and the like being nationalised and provided free-of-cost, Internet should be as well. Imagine... free, unlimited internet.

We can create a technologist council as well.

The councils are only supposed to be for different socialist ideologies. Major ones. Democratic Socialism, Market Socialism, Libertarian Socialism.

[Libantica]

So, I like the current platform. As for party structure, I say we have a system of "councils", where the various ideological groups can create their own council, then elect their one member to the Central Committee of the Alliance.

For example, the Libertarian Socialist Council consists of 4 senators, and the elect Senator [name] to the Central Committee, while the Market Socialist Council consists of 7 senators, and they elect Senator [name]. Each Council only sends one representative, to ensure that one council doesn't dominate the other. Each Council can state it's own goals and ideals, and, so long as it conforms to the basic party points and platform, they can write their own platforms. They are free to create their own organizations and support their own protests/strikes/etc.

All the various councils can write up their own legislation, then run it to the central committee, which will vote whether the alliance as a whole will support it or not. If they vote no, the council can still pass the bill, but the alliance whips won't enforce voting for it. If they vote yes, the entire alliance would support the bill. The same can be done for strikes, occupations or other direct action. A council can propose any action, and the central committee can vote on whether the alliance as a whole will support it or it will be left to that council to act on it's own.

This accurately represents each ideological variant within the party. It allows the alliance to be centralized while maintaining autonomy.

I like this! I think it accurately represents the decentralized nature of libertarian socialism.