[NSGS] Placeholderstani Workers' Alliance (Planning)

[Dejanic]

Good luck with this, the FSP was ran pretty decently last time so I have high hopes for this party.

[Bandwagon]

Best of luck to you guys.
May change party if my Centre-Left crew go too centrist.

[Osea 767]

Good to see this up. Naturally, you can consider me to be a supporter of this endeavour. I'll try contacting ex-Communist Party members to see if we can get a few more members.

[Aden Protectorate]

I'm out. This clearly seems to be too far-left for me. Good luck.

[Glasgia]

Could've asked the rest of us before you just went and set this up, but sure - Ta though. I guess you can count me as a member if you'd like. I've just finished making a draft platform, so I'll post that in a sec. I've worked off the old platforms of CP/RG/MSP as that's where the Socialist left was slightly more successful but I was gonna run through and make sure the FSP would be compatible as well.

Also, I have lists of every ProgCoa member from Aurentina - I can send out a TG to CP/RG/MSP members once we've got a bit more structure.

EDIT: Another note, in previous talks before you and UPA got involved, me and Osea were pretty set on calling it "[xyz] Alliance". That emphasises a bit more ideological autonomy and broadens the goalposts - Meaning Communists on the far-left, or Democratic Socialists closer to the centre, are less likely to be put off. I'd go for "[nationdemonym] Worker's Alliance" right now, though aside from "Alliance" that's only based on what I think would sound best and nothing more.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

I'm in.

Personally I think it should be a political party in all but name in the style of SYRIZA and the Danish Red-Green Alliance. Or maybe a political party with different factions working inside it.

[The New Sea Territory]

Could've asked the rest of us before you just went and set this up, but sure - Ta though. I guess you can count me as a member if you'd like. I've just finished making a draft platform, so I'll post that in a sec. I've worked off the old platforms of CP/RG/MSP as that's where the Socialist left was slightly more successful but I was gonna run through and make sure the FSP would be compatible as well.

Also, I have lists of every ProgCoa member from Aurentina - I can send out a TG to CP/RG/MSP members once we've got a bit more structure.

EDIT: Another note, in previous talks before you and UPA got involved, me and Osea were pretty set on calling it "[xyz] Alliance". That emphasises a bit more ideological autonomy and broadens the goalposts - Meaning Communists on the far-left, or Democratic Socialists closer to the centre, are less likely to be put off. I'd go for "[nationdemonym] Worker's Alliance" right now, though aside from "Alliance" that's only based on what I think would sound best and nothing more.

Every other party already had planning threads...

I like the "[name] Worker's Alliance". Sounds good to me. Did you see the flag I posted earlier?

[The New Sea Territory]

Good to see this up. Naturally, you can consider me to be a supporter of this endeavour. I'll try contacting ex-Communist Party members to see if we can get a few more members.

Awesome.

[The New Sea Territory]

I made a quick signature so we can advertise the planning thread and get people to notice the Reboot. Also, I'll be inviting people in my region.

[Glasgia]

Could've asked the rest of us before you just went and set this up, but sure - Ta though. I guess you can count me as a member if you'd like. I've just finished making a draft platform, so I'll post that in a sec. I've worked off the old platforms of CP/RG/MSP as that's where the Socialist left was slightly more successful but I was gonna run through and make sure the FSP would be compatible as well.

Also, I have lists of every ProgCoa member from Aurentina - I can send out a TG to CP/RG/MSP members once we've got a bit more structure.

EDIT: Another note, in previous talks before you and UPA got involved, me and Osea were pretty set on calling it "[xyz] Alliance". That emphasises a bit more ideological autonomy and broadens the goalposts - Meaning Communists on the far-left, or Democratic Socialists closer to the centre, are less likely to be put off. I'd go for "[nationdemonym] Worker's Alliance" right now, though aside from "Alliance" that's only based on what I think would sound best and nothing more.

Every other party already had planning threads...

I like the "[name] Worker's Alliance". Sounds good to me. Did you see the flag I posted earlier?

Eh, fair enough. Like the logo, though perhaps it's slightly too militant for broad-tent? Not really a major problem for myself, just thinking others might possibly object. Getting the sig out early is a good idea too, I seriously needed to update my sig anyway

[The New Sea Territory]

Every other party already had planning threads...

I like the "[name] Worker's Alliance". Sounds good to me. Did you see the flag I posted earlier?

Eh, fair enough. Like the logo, though perhaps it's slightly too militant for broad-tent? Not really a major problem for myself, just thinking others might possibly object. Getting the sig out early is a good idea too, I seriously needed to update my sig anyway

Yeah, maybe something less militant would be better. I'll keep looking around.

[Glasgia]

Eh, fair enough. Like the logo, though perhaps it's slightly too militant for broad-tent? Not really a major problem for myself, just thinking others might possibly object. Getting the sig out early is a good idea too, I seriously needed to update my sig anyway

Yeah, maybe something less militant would be better. I'll keep looking around.

I wouldn't bother unless anyone else actually objects - It's hardly plastered all over the OP, it's just in case it turns anyone away when we've got a proper HQ and everything going.

[Heraklea-]

I think we need to start coming up with a platform. At this point all we really have is that we plan to be further left than the Center-Left Party (I think they've decided on Social Democrats), which itself is already much further left of center than I would expect for a center-left party. I think there needs to be a few pointed policy differences, otherwise we might as well fold into them. Two points in their platform I personally will be disagreeing with is a goal of a welfare state vice a direct planned economy and the call for a small defense force vice a strong military.

[Glasgia]

I was waiting for approval from a few others, but I might as well just post it for all to see I guess. Gimme a sec, this is a rough merger of old platforms from CP/RG/MSP (Aurentine parties, because that's where the Socialist left was mist successful) with editing for suitability.

[Britanno]

Good luck.

[Glasgia]

Here's the draft I wrote, obviously it's open to comments and constructive criticism and the like

Alliance Principles

1) We do not support violent revolution. However, we strongly believe a social and economic revolution is necessary to create an egalitarian nation.
2) We do not support uneccessary interference in the personal lives of the people and oppose arbitrary enforcement of “morality” in favour of social freedoms.
3) We support a social “safety net” and strict regulation of business in order to protect the worker and those who cannot work from harm in a Capitalist economy and during the transition away from Capitalism
4) We support the nationalisation of public necessities and their provision free of cost, or at as little cost as possible
5) We support global co-operation and free trade, in order to ensure advantages from the global market for workers internationally

Extensive Platform

The Alliance seeks not for a violent revolution, but a revolution that is social and economic and in that sense may be classed as revolutionary. We believe in legislating worker’s right to democratic control of their own labour, granting them power over the means of production within an explicitly Socialist economic system. The post-feudal class system that dominates Capitalist societies must be eliminated through the destruction of profit systems and a peaceful assimilation into the Proletariat.

However, such goals may take time to realise and we cannot implement such without the mandate of the people. Therefore, we advocate co-operation with the entire left to implement a progressive move away from the extortions Capitalism. We demand the enstatement of a national minimum wage under which workers may live and the right of every worker to unionise, encouraging solidarity amongst all workers. In order to ensure some measure redistribution of wealth, we support the implementation of a heavily progressive taxation system and the reduction of regressive taxes. These are measures to aid the transition to not only to a Socialist economy but also egalitarian society.

We believe that the government should not interfere in the personal lives of our citizens unless it is necessary to do so in protection of others. Human and civil rights should be far-reaching, unconditional and absolutely guaranteed to ensure the freedom of our people. As an egalitarian party, we shall extend these rights to all regardless of race or nationality, gender or gender identity; sexuality or sexual identity; citizenship or residency; religion, age or ability. We believe that societal prejudices should be swiftly pushed aside to eliminate social discrimination and to promote the development of a free and open culture, values and human relations.

The Alliance strongly advocates a society in which none are left behind. Those who can afford must provide for those who cannot. As such, we believe in extensive programs to aid the unemployed in their return to work and a strong safety net for those who have lost their jobs or cannot work. In any Capitalist economy, the welfare state is one of the few systems that can alleviate some of Capitalism’s sufferings and therefore we believe its implementation and extension should be one of the first steps of any governments.

The above principles also extend to protecting basic necessities from Capitalist perversion. Though some costs may be an unfortunate necessity, at least in the short term, we support the nationalisation of all utilities as an immediate goal and the extension of essential services to all free of cost. This entails an extensive public transport network that is cheap and accessible to all, a state funded education system and a university system free from tuition fees, the guaranteeing of all people to a single-payer universal healthcare and the nationalisation of all fuel or energy resources with the intent to provide energy to the people at the lowest prices possible without major harm to our environment.

Globally, the Alliance wishes to extend these goals. As such, we believe in international co-operation and free trade within nations - Maintaining a strong belief in the principles of comparative advantage. As with our social policies we believe we must aid those who cannot afford and we will attempt to protect the worker throughout the world. We do not believe in an extensive military presence to do so however and instead believe our nation’s army should only be employed in defence or to ensure peace.

[Glasgia]

Good luck.

Ta, to you too - I know this is hardly your cup of tea ideologically, but hopefully we can at least co-operate on some things if we're not working together on the larger scale

[The Federal Republic of Simonia]

Eh, do I feel that odd MSP side of me turning on?

Yes, yes I do. Sign me up!

[The New Sea Territory]

Would the Alliance be supportive of direct action? Workplace Occupation, General Strikes, etc?

[Glasgia]

Would the Alliance be supportive of direct action? Workplace Occupation, General Strikes, etc?

I'd personally prefer all action stayed legal and had specific goals - Especially something like a General Strike, which can cripple economies with little benefit to the workers. It's case-by-case though for me, not sure what others think. Might be the kinda thing we don't support as an Alliance, but allow members/factions to make their own decisions.

[Britanno]

Ta, to you too - I know this is hardly your cup of tea ideologically, but hopefully we can at least co-operate on some things if we're not working together on the larger scale

Meh, maybe I'll get drunk and defect to you lot at some stage.

[The New Sea Territory]

Would the Alliance be supportive of direct action? Workplace Occupation, General Strikes, etc?

I'd personally prefer all action stayed legal and had specific goals - Especially something like a General Strike, which can cripple economies with little benefit to the workers. It's case-by-case though for me, not sure what others think. Might be the kinda thing we don't support as an Alliance, but allow members/factions to make their own decisions.

Strikes, Occupations, Marches and the creation of cooperatives are something that the more radical, former-FSP members will definitely do. We will alert the Alliance leaders before going through with anything major, though.

[Glasgia]

Ta, to you too - I know this is hardly your cup of tea ideologically, but hopefully we can at least co-operate on some things if we're not working together on the larger scale

Meh, maybe I'll get drunk and defect to you lot at some stage.

Just don't come here trying to speak Dutch

I'd personally prefer all action stayed legal and had specific goals - Especially something like a General Strike, which can cripple economies with little benefit to the workers. It's case-by-case though for me, not sure what others think. Might be the kinda thing we don't support as an Alliance, but allow members/factions to make their own decisions.

Strikes, Occupations, Marches and the creation of cooperatives are something that the more radical, former-FSP members will definitely do. We will alert the Alliance leaders before going through with anything major, though.

I think, for the most part, we'd all support at least three of those - Occupations might be a tad too far for me and some others who are more moderate, depending on circumstances.

[Malgrave]

I'm already a part of the Democratic Left but I wish you all the success in the world and it is good to have a democratic far-left organisation.

[The New Sea Territory]

I'm already a part of the Democratic Left but I wish you all the success in the world and it is good to have a democratic far-left organisation.