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Postby Bralia » Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:57 pm

Has anybody ever wondered how the saying "beating a dead horse" got started?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:02 am

I'm not sure what to think of the Linux community.

Although, I particularly not care since my emphasis is in Network Security.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:09 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not sure what to think of the Linux community.

Although, I particularly not care since my emphasis is in Network Security.


What's up with it? Too much fanatism?
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Postby Mushet » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:13 am

Bralia wrote:Has anybody ever wondered how the saying "beating a dead horse" got started?

Beating off a dead horse?
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:14 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:I'm not sure what to think of the Linux community.

Although, I particularly not care since my emphasis is in Network Security.


What's up with it? Too many fanatism?


Well, it has the same problems as the rest of the IT community: the vocal minority are the assholes who tend to try and not innovate.

For instance, Lennart Poettering, the guy who created a replacement for the init system has been mocked of, threatened, and there was even one movement to hire a hitman with bitcoins from what is reported.

The other thing I'm generally discontent about is that the community is a circle jerk. You can't talk well about Mac or Windows because suddenly you're anathema to them. I will readily admit Linux is a very flexible system and it works for many different people (heck there's even a malware analysis distribution and a network penetration distribution) but to say Linux can attract all business needs is ludicrous at best and naive in general.

I admit that Windows and Mac are not Linux, but to pretend Linux can surpass Windows or Mac is stupid. All OSs are designed to meet a set of specific needs, and Linux is a distro which handles a specific need: the need to be open and easily deployable.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:16 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What's up with it? Too many fanatism?


Well, it has the same problems as the rest of the IT community: the vocal minority are the assholes who tend to try and not innovate.

For instance, Lennart Poettering, the guy who created a replacement for the init system has been mocked of, threatened, and there was even one movement to hire a hitman with bitcoins from what is reported.

The other thing I'm generally discontent about is the the community is a circle jerk. You can't talk well about Mac or Windows because suddenly you're anathema to them. I will readily admit Linux is a very flexible system and it works for many different people (heck there's even a malware analysis distribution and a network penetration distribution) but to say Linux can attract all business needs is ludicrous at best and naive in general.


A hitman? Now that's taking idiocy to a new level. :blink:
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:18 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Well, it has the same problems as the rest of the IT community: the vocal minority are the assholes who tend to try and not innovate.

For instance, Lennart Poettering, the guy who created a replacement for the init system has been mocked of, threatened, and there was even one movement to hire a hitman with bitcoins from what is reported.

The other thing I'm generally discontent about is the the community is a circle jerk. You can't talk well about Mac or Windows because suddenly you're anathema to them. I will readily admit Linux is a very flexible system and it works for many different people (heck there's even a malware analysis distribution and a network penetration distribution) but to say Linux can attract all business needs is ludicrous at best and naive in general.


A hitman? Now that's taking idiocy to a new level. :blink:


I know :p

It's why I am not too involved in the Linux community or any computing community. It gives me the creeps. I just want to do my job and do it right, also network security is my thing and yes, there's assholes in there too, but at least I don't have to deal with developers.
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:19 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
A hitman? Now that's taking idiocy to a new level. :blink:


I know :p

It's why I am not too involved in the Linux community or any computing community. It gives me the creeps. I just want to do my job and do it right, also network security is my thing and yes, there's assholes in there too, but at least I don't have to deal with developers.


What I'd like to know is why some there are so fucking psychotic. That's what I wanna know. :p
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:20 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I know :p

It's why I am not too involved in the Linux community or any computing community. It gives me the creeps. I just want to do my job and do it right, also network security is my thing and yes, there's assholes in there too, but at least I don't have to deal with developers.


What I'd like to know is why some there are so fucking psychotic. That's what I wanna know. :p


Because it's the internet :p

Sadly many people think it's okay to be psychotic :p
Soldati senza confini: Better than an iPod in shuffle more with 20,000 songs.
Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:25 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What I'd like to know is why some there are so fucking psychotic. That's what I wanna know. :p


Because it's the internet :p

Sadly many people think it's okay to be psychotic :p


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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:28 am

I'll be in Florida in like 40 hours. I'm regretting booking it.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:31 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
What I'd like to know is why some there are so fucking psychotic. That's what I wanna know. :p


Because it's the internet :p

Sadly many people think it's okay to be psychotic :p


Too many. :p

Nuts, I think there's something wrong with the heat pump. BRB.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:32 am

Auremena wrote:I'll be in Florida in like 40 hours. I'm regretting booking it.


Was this for a job interview, or were you meeting family?
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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:38 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Auremena wrote:I'll be in Florida in like 40 hours. I'm regretting booking it.
Was this for a job interview, or were you meeting family?
Family. I'm hoping to hear back within the next two days on the job. Even then, I expect it to only be a temporary thing.
I'm scared of what's going to happen down there. Mom is sceptical of me and trusts me even less than she used to, which was never much, and my sister hates me so much she denies my existence. And I'm going down for her performance.
Things aren't so well with dad either; try as I may, he gets anary at everything I do and cam never do anything right evidently. If I don't do anything, then he gets angry at me for being idle.
Makes me wonder who isn't angry or disappointed with me.
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Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:42 am

Auremena wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:Was this for a job interview, or were you meeting family?
Family. I'm hoping to hear back within the next two days on the job. Even then, I expect it to only be a temporary thing.
I'm scared of what's going to happen down there. Mom is sceptical of me and trusts me even less than she used to, which was never much, and my sister hates me so much she denies my existence. And I'm going down for her performance.
Things aren't so well with dad either; try as I may, he gets anary at everything I do and cam never do anything right evidently. If I don't do anything, then he gets angry at me for being idle.
Makes me wonder who isn't angry or disappointed with me.


At least enjoy the heat. :hug:
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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:46 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Auremena wrote:Family. I'm hoping to hear back within the next two days on the job. Even then, I expect it to only be a temporary thing.
I'm scared of what's going to happen down there. Mom is sceptical of me and trusts me even less than she used to, which was never much, and my sister hates me so much she denies my existence. And I'm going down for her performance.
Things aren't so well with dad either; try as I may, he gets anary at everything I do and cam never do anything right evidently. If I don't do anything, then he gets angry at me for being idle.
Makes me wonder who isn't angry or disappointed with me.
At least enjoy the heat. :hug:
I purposely/accidently left my summer clothing with Crandma; I left the sandals on purpose. The capris and shorts, in the bag I had to remove to get my trunk under 50 pounds. As was probably that blouse I could have been using up here.
My wardrobe is super thin and new clothes aren't really on the budget. I'd doubt mom would take me shopping unless I agreed to get a buzzcut and only shop for men's clothing.
*sigh*
At least I'll get my 717 out of it, been wanting to get that.
NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:48 am

Auremena wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:At least enjoy the heat. :hug:
I purposely/accidently left my summer clothing with Crandma; I left the sandals on purpose. The capris and shorts, in the bag I had to remove to get my trunk under 50 pounds. As was probably that blouse I could have been using up here.
My wardrobe is super thin and new clothes aren't really on the budget. I'd doubt mom would take me shopping unless I agreed to get a buzzcut and only shop for men's clothing.
*sigh*
At least I'll get my 717 out of it, been wanting to get that.


I know it's hard, but try to enjoy yourself. Maybe you'll get this job.
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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:51 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Auremena wrote:I purposely/accidently left my summer clothing with Crandma; I left the sandals on purpose. The capris and shorts, in the bag I had to remove to get my trunk under 50 pounds. As was probably that blouse I could have been using up here.
My wardrobe is super thin and new clothes aren't really on the budget. I'd doubt mom would take me shopping unless I agreed to get a buzzcut and only shop for men's clothing.
*sigh*
At least I'll get my 717 out of it, been wanting to get that.


I know it's hard, but try to enjoy yourself. Maybe you'll get this job.
I hope.
It might only be able to sustain me until christmas. Probably, in fact. Unless I put on a great showing and I'm deemed good enough to keep (which would disappoint dad because he wants this one particular internship for me, bringing up that issue again) then I'm going to have to do this all over again in two months.
NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
COYS!

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Postby Gallade » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:53 am

The music trends here tell me it's 2010. I'm 21 again!

OwooWoooOoooOoh~ Barbara Streisand!

Reminds me of my pure hatred for the club scene.
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:54 am

Gallade wrote:The music trends here tell me it's 2010. I'm 21 again!

OwooWoooOoooOoh~ Barbara Streisand!

Reminds me of my pure hatred for the club scene.


You're looking fine in those crocs, and that corset. Your foot bindings are particularly tight, and I'm loving your powdered wig and lead face paint.

Wait, I've gone too far.
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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:54 am

Gallade wrote:The music trends here tell me it's 2010. I'm 21 again!

OwooWoooOoooOoh~ Barbara Streisand!

Reminds me of my pure hatred for the club scene.
I haven't experienced it enough (read: at all) to form an opinion of it.
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NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
COYS!

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Postby Gallade » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:56 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Gallade wrote:The music trends here tell me it's 2010. I'm 21 again!

OwooWoooOoooOoh~ Barbara Streisand!

Reminds me of my pure hatred for the club scene.


You're looking fine in those crocs, and that corset. Your foot bindings are particularly tight, and I'm loving your powdered wig and lead face paint.

Wait, I've gone too far.

Your inclusion of corsets in that list wounds me greatly. I'm hip with the kids, damn it!
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My TG box is for friends, not food
Feel like making a direct change rather than just bickering over crises?
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Postby Immoren » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:57 am

Gallade wrote:The music trends here tell me it's 2010. I'm 21 again!

OwooWoooOoooOoh~ Barbara Streisand!

Reminds me of my pure hatred for the club scene.


Are the billy club's all the rage now or is it time of ball-headed war clubs?
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Postby The Grim Reaper » Mon Nov 17, 2014 12:57 am

Gallade wrote:
The Grim Reaper wrote:
You're looking fine in those crocs, and that corset. Your foot bindings are particularly tight, and I'm loving your powdered wig and lead face paint.

Wait, I've gone too far.

Your inclusion of corsets in that list wounds me greatly. I'm hip with the kids, damn it!


I am personally a great fan of the corset - on women.

That being said, I nearly wore a suit jacket to a beach party with some friends in high school. I am as hip as Angela Merkel.
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Postby Auremena » Mon Nov 17, 2014 1:02 am

The Grim Reaper wrote:
Gallade wrote:Your inclusion of corsets in that list wounds me greatly. I'm hip with the kids, damn it!
I am personally a great fan of the corset - on women.

That being said, I nearly wore a suit jacket to a beach party with some friends in high school. I am as hip as Angela Merkel.
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I need to see shrimp in corsets now.
Male shrimp.
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NS's aviation and train sabelotodo.
Post-left anarchist and sad about it.
Killdash, Firsthome, Coffee Cakes, SSC, GCoCS, Snowy, Val, Aeqy, and Replevion are my bitches.
Foot worshipper: Lutvikkia. Dakky's mom, I had her with Nana.
The female Jim Morrison; not as talented, but just as attractive and self destructive. The one true heir to the throne of the Lizard King.
Some poetry I write sometimes
Tearing the MBTA a new one since 2014. The MTA too since 2016. Cover the world in trains 2030
COYS!

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