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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Fri Jun 06, 2014 8:12 pm

Hej, there's some space for another member?
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Sahrani DR
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:05 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:Hej, there's some space for another member?


Sure thing!

Does any of the Comrades know whether we need another Application Thread or if we should simply use the old one?
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
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Jozef van Oostvoorne
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:10 am

Yanalia wrote:Your Russian acronym is off, should be СК instead of БК.


I think you're right. I'll correct that right away...

The hammer and sickle fell off! :(

Image


:p

I also made it a bit less big, so it won't dominate the OP as much. And I added "Google Translate Latvian".
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United Provinces of Atlantica
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sat Jun 07, 2014 7:19 am

Sahrani DR wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:Hej, there's some space for another member?


Sure thing!

Does any of the Comrades know whether we need another Application Thread or if we should simply use the old one?


Comrade, I'm pretty sure the administrators are starting a new one, but it isn't up yet, as far as I know.
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San Jose Guayabal
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Postby San Jose Guayabal » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:41 am

Sahrani DR wrote:
San Jose Guayabal wrote:Hej, there's some space for another member?


Sure thing!

Does any of the Comrades know whether we need another Application Thread or if we should simply use the old one?


Perfect, thanks comrades.

Also want my senator name? In that case his name is Pekka Saarinen.

Also, there's some position available?
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Sahrani DR
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Jun 07, 2014 11:22 am

San Jose Guayabal wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:
Sure thing!

Does any of the Comrades know whether we need another Application Thread or if we should simply use the old one?


Perfect, thanks comrades.

Also want my senator name? In that case his name is Pekka Saarinen.

Also, there's some position available?


We will set up elections for the Central Committee as soon as the reboot is complete.
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About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Threlizdun
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Postby Threlizdun » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:37 pm

Jozef van Oostvoorne wrote:
Yanalia wrote:Your Russian acronym is off, should be СК instead of БК.


I think you're right. I'll correct that right away...

The hammer and sickle fell off! :(

Image


:p

I also made it a bit less big, so it won't dominate the OP as much. And I added "Google Translate Latvian".

I don't know how you do it Jozef, but great job.
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Jozef van Oostvoorne
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:48 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
Jozef van Oostvoorne wrote:
I think you're right. I'll correct that right away...

The hammer and sickle fell off! :(

Image


:p

I also made it a bit less big, so it won't dominate the OP as much. And I added "Google Translate Latvian".

I don't know how you do it Jozef, but great job.


A bit of luck with a lot of help from Inkscape ;)
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Sahrani DR
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Postby Sahrani DR » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:58 pm

San Jose Guayabal wrote:Hej, there's some space for another member?


Here it is: viewtopic.php?f=25&t=299356&start=75

Seems like even old members will have to apply again.
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Political Compass:
Economic Left: -8.25
Social Libertarian: -3.15





About North Korea's allowed haircuts:
Hurdegaryp wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:Well I'd be fucked. I went bald at 20.....

To the gulag with you, comrade! No place for degenerate bald-headed bourgeois class traitors in the Democratic People's Republic of Korea!

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Blekksprutia wrote:It looks like 1 haircut viewed from 28 different angles.

That's the undeniable superiority of the Juche doctrine in action for you. All shall be equal!
http://imageshack.us/a/img546/7193/y0bu.png
Souseiseki wrote:
Sahrani DR wrote:how do you even learn japanese?

sacrifice to the blood god

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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sat Jun 07, 2014 8:24 pm

Guys, should we have official talks with the Free Socialists?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:03 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Guys, should we have official talks with the Free Socialists?


Totally! Lol.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:50 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:Guys, should we have official talks with the Free Socialists?


Totally! Lol.


I'm pretty sure this could happen, we just need to get my party's leadership to be on board, which I think they'll be okay with.
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Jozef van Oostvoorne
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:03 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Totally! Lol.


I'm pretty sure this could happen, we just need to get my party's leadership to be on board, which I think they'll be okay with.


I'm in favour.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:11 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Totally! Lol.


I'm pretty sure this could happen, we just need to get my party's leadership to be on board, which I think they'll be okay with.


....how about you guys just join the Kalengian Left with the MSA and FSP? We are not officially in it, but I have a feeling we will be after I negotiate with my party members.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:56 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I'm pretty sure this could happen, we just need to get my party's leadership to be on board, which I think they'll be okay with.


....how about you guys just join the Kalengian Left with the MSA and FSP? We are not officially in it, but I have a feeling we will be after I negotiate with my party members.


I'd definitely be on board, hopefully the MSA and and our leadership we'll be too.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:00 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
....how about you guys just join the Kalengian Left with the MSA and FSP? We are not officially in it, but I have a feeling we will be after I negotiate with my party members.


I'd definitely be on board, hopefully the MSA and and our leadership we'll be too.


Glasgia, MSA leader, is more or less starting it, and I'm discussing it with the FSP members. If the Free Communists would join, we will be set to have a powerful 25+ senators in the party. Making us, undoubted, the largest and most powerful single party in the senate. Now...the Progressive Front might eventually beat us.
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of darkness with mystically brutal fury to dim the serene and festive exultation of the dionysian spirit of our pagan ancestors."
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:04 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I'd definitely be on board, hopefully the MSA and and our leadership we'll be too.


Glasgia, MSA leader, is more or less starting it, and I'm discussing it with the FSP members. If the Free Communists would join, we will be set to have a powerful 25+ senators in the party. Making us, undoubted, the largest and most powerful single party in the senate. Now...the Progressive Front might eventually beat us.


The Progressive Front may beat us, but we would reming them that the movement to the left of them is well and alive in Heldmark (my Senator's of Swedish descent, so I have to refer to whatever you call this country as Heldmark). Also if the Progressive Front can't find a parliamentary majority, they could hopefully turn to us, allowing more socialism.

EDIT: I'd also support making the Kalengian Left a SDP-Liberal Alliance-style alliance, also certainly with very different political views.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:09 pm

United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
Glasgia, MSA leader, is more or less starting it, and I'm discussing it with the FSP members. If the Free Communists would join, we will be set to have a powerful 25+ senators in the party. Making us, undoubted, the largest and most powerful single party in the senate. Now...the Progressive Front might eventually beat us.


The Progressive Front may beat us, but we would reming them that the movement to the left of them is well and alive in Heldmark (my Senator's of Swedish descent, so I have to refer to whatever you call this country as Heldmark). Also if the Progressive Front can't find a parliamentary majority, they could hopefully turn to us, allowing more socialism.


Very true. Sounds good.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:13 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
United Provinces of Atlantica wrote:
I'm pretty sure this could happen, we just need to get my party's leadership to be on board, which I think they'll be okay with.


....how about you guys just join the Kalengian Left with the MSA and FSP? We are not officially in it, but I have a feeling we will be after I negotiate with my party members.

I oppose. I am in favor of joining a coalition with the two, but I want to remain a separate party. We can find agreement on enough issues to form a coalition, but we still have ideals that separate us as parties.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:16 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
....how about you guys just join the Kalengian Left with the MSA and FSP? We are not officially in it, but I have a feeling we will be after I negotiate with my party members.

I oppose. I am in favor of joining a coalition with the two, but I want to remain a separate party. We can find agreement on enough issues to form a coalition, but we still have ideals that separate us as parties.


The KL works as a tent party, in which the independent parties become factions within the party. They become unofficial but still existent. And, the FSP is open to all left-libertarians. The main difference between you and us is you are more exclusively communist while we are all forms of radical socialism. We could easily work together, that difference is not that big. The Market Socialists are also not too different, though I would say more moderate than the two of us.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:19 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I oppose. I am in favor of joining a coalition with the two, but I want to remain a separate party. We can find agreement on enough issues to form a coalition, but we still have ideals that separate us as parties.


The KL works as a tent party, in which the independent parties become factions within the party. They become unofficial but still existent. And, the FSP is open to all left-libertarians. The main difference between you and us is you are more exclusively communist while we are all forms of radical socialism. We could easily work together, that difference is not that big. The Market Socialists are also not too different, though I would say more moderate than the two of us.
I would be willing to accept a merger if the rest of the party goes for it but it is still something I personally would prefer to avoid. I could not accept it however if certain members were included. CTALNH is in your party. If we are going to pretend to be in favor of freedom and socialism while had boring authoritarian state capitalists then I do not see how we could possibly hope to get anywhere.
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:33 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
The KL works as a tent party, in which the independent parties become factions within the party. They become unofficial but still existent. And, the FSP is open to all left-libertarians. The main difference between you and us is you are more exclusively communist while we are all forms of radical socialism. We could easily work together, that difference is not that big. The Market Socialists are also not too different, though I would say more moderate than the two of us.
I would be willing to accept a merger if the rest of the party goes for it but it is still something I personally would prefer to avoid. I could not accept it however if certain members were included. CTALNH is in your party. If we are going to pretend to be in favor of freedom and socialism while had boring authoritarian state capitalists then I do not see how we could possibly hope to get anywhere.


I'm against a merger.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:43 pm

Jozef van Oostvoorne wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I would be willing to accept a merger if the rest of the party goes for it but it is still something I personally would prefer to avoid. I could not accept it however if certain members were included. CTALNH is in your party. If we are going to pretend to be in favor of freedom and socialism while had boring authoritarian state capitalists then I do not see how we could possibly hope to get anywhere.


I'm against a merger.


Why?
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jun 08, 2014 2:45 pm

Threlizdun wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:
The KL works as a tent party, in which the independent parties become factions within the party. They become unofficial but still existent. And, the FSP is open to all left-libertarians. The main difference between you and us is you are more exclusively communist while we are all forms of radical socialism. We could easily work together, that difference is not that big. The Market Socialists are also not too different, though I would say more moderate than the two of us.
I would be willing to accept a merger if the rest of the party goes for it but it is still something I personally would prefer to avoid. I could not accept it however if certain members were included. CTALNH is in your party. If we are going to pretend to be in favor of freedom and socialism while had boring authoritarian state capitalists then I do not see how we could possibly hope to get anywhere.


CTALNH is a marxist-leninist. Not the most pure definition of what we are looking for, but he still fits here. Just, loosely.
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Postby Threlizdun » Sun Jun 08, 2014 3:05 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:
Threlizdun wrote:I would be willing to accept a merger if the rest of the party goes for it but it is still something I personally would prefer to avoid. I could not accept it however if certain members were included. CTALNH is in your party. If we are going to pretend to be in favor of freedom and socialism while had boring authoritarian state capitalists then I do not see how we could possibly hope to get anywhere.


CTALNH is a marxist-leninist. Not the most pure definition of what we are looking for, but he still fits here. Just, loosely.
No, he is an authoritarian state capitalist who admitted that he wants a dictatorship just so he can have power. He may RP as a Marxist-Leninist, though he insists that such a definition strictly applies to Stalinism and that policies following Stalin's death were revisionist. Regardless of how you look at it, he is an authoritarian state capitalist with nothing to offer the socialist cause. We made the mistake of forming a coalition with him once. We're not making the same mistake again and we are especially not forming a party with him. If we did merge and he was in the party I would leave.
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