NSG Senate General Discussion Thread (Former Lobby)

[Estva]

we need a GDP per capita (PPP) of at least $30,000. Otherwise we just won't have a great deal of money to work with, there just won't be the tax base.

Then maybe we will for once have to make tough decisions.

[The Nihilistic view]

we need a GDP per capita (PPP) of at least $30,000. Otherwise we just won't have a great deal of money to work with, there just won't be the tax base.

Then maybe we will for once have to make tough decisions.

We won't though. The left won't hold back, they will just pass everything they fancy anyway and sod the consequences. You only have to look at their plans already, they are totally out of kilter with most poorer countries. They wan't the language, they want the culture, they want the bad economic situation but they also want their huge western European style welfare state.

[Intermountain States]

Who wants to join the Tea Party?

[Atlanticatia]

we need a GDP per capita (PPP) of at least $30,000. Otherwise we just won't have a great deal of money to work with, there just won't be the tax base.

I'd love that.

I doubt anything more than $26k (PPP) would be believable in L. America though. (Unless somehow we have a lot of oil wealth.)

[Estva]

Then maybe we will for once have to make tough decisions.

We won't though. The left won't hold back, they will just pass everything they fancy anyway and sod the consequences. You only have to look at their plans already, they are totally out of kilter with most poorer countries. They wan't the language, they want the culture, they want the bad economic situation but they also want their huge western European style welfare state.

It will be more fun to have our state fail as the left tries to implement their welfare state then have yet another boring repeat of Aurentina.

Maybe they will compromise.

[Atlanticatia]

We won't though. The left won't hold back, they will just pass everything they fancy anyway and sod the consequences. You only have to look at their plans already, they are totally out of kilter with most poorer countries. They wan't the language, they want the culture, they want the bad economic situation but they also want their huge western European style welfare state.

It will be more fun to have our state fail as the left tries to implement their welfare state then have yet another boring repeat of Aurentina.

Maybe they will compromise.

Obviously any welfare policies would be scaled back in a lower-income country, to bring things in relation to average incomes of the country.

[The State of Deseret]

This isn't centered on being th left wings wet dream.

It's focused on finding solutions to problems.

[Estva]

It will be more fun to have our state fail as the left tries to implement their welfare state then have yet another boring repeat of Aurentina.

Maybe they will compromise.

Obviously any welfare policies would be scaled back in a lower-income country, to bring things in relation to average incomes of the country.

I would hope so, lest we fall into bankruptcy and have the radical parties start revving up paramilitaries.

[Parhe]

Just putting it out there, we don't *have* to be the same or similar to our neighbors. Maybe racially, linguistically and/or culturally we are very similar but the economy will be highly influenced by state policy and history of policy.

[Estva]

Just putting it out there, we don't *have* to be the same or similar to our neighbors. Maybe racially, linguistically and/or culturally we are very similar but the economy will be highly influenced by state policy and history of policy.

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

[Fortschritte]

Just putting it out there, we don't *have* to be the same or similar to our neighbors. Maybe racially, linguistically and/or culturally we are very similar but the economy will be highly influenced by state policy and history of policy.

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

I concur. I wouldn't mind a senate where compromises have to be made because of things like poverty, and where problems exist that we have to solve.

[Estva]

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

I concur. I wouldn't mind a senate where compromises have to be made because of things like poverty, and where problems exist that we have to solve.

Indeed. Which welfare we can and can't have will make debate less pointless.

[Parhe]

Just putting it out there, we don't *have* to be the same or similar to our neighbors. Maybe racially, linguistically and/or culturally we are very similar but the economy will be highly influenced by state policy and history of policy.

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

I don't really care about the level of wealth, it can be fun any way. I just thought it was bogus that some people said being wealthy was unlikely because of our location as being in Latin America.

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

Why?

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

For the past few, you've really seemed to have an issue with the trolling. Hence, *** Warned for trolling ***
Kindly lay off the nastiness, thanks.

[The Nihilistic view]

Just putting it out there, we don't *have* to be the same or similar to our neighbors. Maybe racially, linguistically and/or culturally we are very similar but the economy will be highly influenced by state policy and history of policy.

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

We were poor in Baltonia actually. IIRC GDP per capita was something like 13,000.

[Estva]

We have been rich every time, it would be nice to be somewhat poor for a change.

We were poor in Baltonia actually. IIRC GDP per capita was something like 13,000.

Well, if it was possible then, we could certainly do it in Latin America.

[The Nihilistic view]

We were poor in Baltonia actually. IIRC GDP per capita was something like 13,000.

Well, if it was possible then, we could certainly do it in Latin America.

Yeah and look how Baltonia turned out. People did not want and could not stick to the realism.

[Estva]

Well, if it was possible then, we could certainly do it in Latin America.

Yeah and look how Baltonia turned out. People did not want and could not stick to the realism.

Baltonia had many failures, realism was not one of them.

What challenges, precisely, would we face as a rich nation? If we want to be small and thus irrelevant to foreign affairs, yet also be rich, what is the point of playing?

[The Nihilistic view]

Yeah and look how Baltonia turned out. People did not want and could not stick to the realism.

Baltonia had many failures, realism was not one of them.

What challenges, precisely, would we face as a rich nation? If we want to be small and thus irrelevant to foreign affairs, yet also be rich, what is the point of playing?

I'm guessing you were not paying much attention here in the early part of the discussion or at the end of Baltonia. It contained loads of annoyance about the realism restrictions. People ended up hating the realism restrictions, you can either except it our stick your head in the sand.

[Corbins]

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

For the past few, you've really seemed to have an issue with the trolling. Hence, *** Warned for trolling ***
Kindly lay off the nastiness, thanks.

How the hell is this trolling? I've done nothing but state that because Latin America is brown, and most everyone here is white, it'd be a bad compilation of us trying to replicate their culture. Did I trigger someone?

[Sebastianbourg]

Why don't we leave the GDP per capita at $17,500 which makes as relatively-wealthy compared to the rest of Latin America but still poor compared to Western Europe?

[Sebastianbourg]

For the past few, you've really seemed to have an issue with the trolling. Hence, *** Warned for trolling ***
Kindly lay off the nastiness, thanks.

How the hell is this trolling? I've done nothing but state that because Latin America is brown, and most everyone here is white, it'd be a bad compilation of us trying to replicate their culture. Did I trigger someone?

Not true. Argentines and Uruguayans are white from my experience.

[Corbins]

How the hell is this trolling? I've done nothing but state that because Latin America is brown, and most everyone here is white, it'd be a bad compilation of us trying to replicate their culture. Did I trigger someone?

Not true. Argentines and Uruguayans are white from my experience.

We're not playing as Argentines or Uruguayans.

[Parhe]

Yeah and look how Baltonia turned out. People did not want and could not stick to the realism.

Baltonia had many failures, realism was not one of them.

What challenges, precisely, would we face as a rich nation? If we want to be small and thus irrelevant to foreign affairs, yet also be rich, what is the point of playing?

South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, and Japan are rich. Well, I suppose Japan isn't irrelevant, but it, as well as the others, are wealthy yet still have domestic issues.

[Atlanticatia]

Why don't we leave the GDP per capita at $17,500 which makes as relatively-wealthy compared to the rest of Latin America but still poor compared to Western Europe?

I guess that'd probably be the best compromise.. since it'd be on the cusp between being wealthy and middle income. It'd give us wealth similar to Estonia, Czech Republic, Chile, etc. Rich enough to appease the left and poor enough to be interesting.

(I'd still prefer a rich W. Europe-level country, but a compromise would probably be better..)