NSG Senate General Discussion Thread (Former Lobby)

[Parhe]

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

1. Does it matter. People can have non-white people!
2. No...no no.
3. Did I mention your real race no matters?

I can be Asian

[San Jose Guayabal]

Why?

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

1: It matters?
2: No and no and no!
3: Just shows your level of cultural ignorance.

It's democracy, we voted for Latin America by a huge margin and you won't do your will here.

Also, refrain to post offensive stuff, at least as Latin American, I feel offended.

[Jetan]

I still think Latin America is not optimal. If people think Europe is too boring we could be in Asia.

Edit: Or was it voted on already?

[Belmaria]

I still think Latin America is not optimal. If people think Europe is too boring we could be in Asia.

Latin America will be interesting. What problems do you have with Latin America? Poverty?

[Jetan]

I still think Latin America is not optimal. If people think Europe is too boring we could be in Asia.

Latin America will be interesting. What problems do you have with Latin America? Poverty?

Somewhat. Better economy gives us more options. It's also a combination of other factors, the significant religisioty of the region is one, another is the fact that we'd practically have to be spanish speaking (I'd much rather have another invented language). The area in general hold little appeal to me (pre-columbian cultures mostly). Asia on the other hand is more interesting as a whole in my opinion, and allows for variation on the other examples aswell.

[The Liberated Territories]

I already have some random islands drawn up (Illustrator ftw) for a Caribbean nation, should we go that route.

[Gothmogs]

Latin America will be interesting. What problems do you have with Latin America? Poverty?

Somewhat. Better economy gives us more options. It's also a combination of other factors, the significant religisioty of the region is one, another is the fact that we'd practically have to be spanish speaking (I'd much rather have another invented language). The area in general hold little appeal to me (pre-columbian cultures mostly). Asia on the other hand is more interesting as a whole in my opinion, and allows for variation on the other examples aswell.

I supported Asia, but we already voted on it unfortunately.

[San Jose Guayabal]

Somewhat. Better economy gives us more options. It's also a combination of other factors, the significant religisioty of the region is one, another is the fact that we'd practically have to be spanish speaking (I'd much rather have another invented language). The area in general hold little appeal to me (pre-columbian cultures mostly). Asia on the other hand is more interesting as a whole in my opinion, and allows for variation on the other examples aswell.

I supported Asia, but we already voted on it unfortunately.

Link please, I'd like to see that.

[Gothmogs]

I supported Asia, but we already voted on it unfortunately.

Link please, I'd like to see that.

See the vote?

[San Jose Guayabal]

Link please, I'd like to see that.

See the vote?

Yes.

[Gothmogs]

See the vote?

Yes.

Here you go. We still don't have a specific location, but it has to be in Latin America.

[Zunkwentania]

Why?

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

Please do not appeal to "brown people are bad" because most of NSGS aren't blatant racists.

[Kralta]

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

Please do not appeal to "brown people are bad" because most of NSGS aren't blatant racists.

Subtle racism for the win.

[San Jose Guayabal]

1. Brown people, most everyone here is white.
2. Spanish is the worst language ever.
3. Did I mention they were brown?

Please do not appeal to "brown people are bad" because most of NSGS aren't blatant racists.

Yeah, and be careful with your words, Corbins. There's Latin Americans here too, FYI!

[Atlanticatia]

Can our GDP per capita be at least, like, $20,000?

[The State of Deseret]

All these Conservative groups are gonna get murdered if they don't come together on Social issues...

[Nova Anglicana]

Can our GDP per capita be at least, like, $20,000?

Fat chance. By nominal GDP, most South American/Latin American countries are less than $20,000, and really between 10-15. By GDP (PPP), we get a bit of a boost, to something more like 14-20. I would say $20k is about the upper limit. We'd need oil or something to get beyond that, or maybe even to get to $20k. 15-17 is a more reasonable number.

[Kincoboh]

Can our GDP per capita be at least, like, $20,000?

The area that I outlined had significant oil reserves, we could have that, for sure.

[Atlanticatia]

Can our GDP per capita be at least, like, $20,000?

Fat chance. By nominal GDP, most South American/Latin American countries are less than $20,000, and really between 10-15. By GDP (PPP), we get a bit of a boost, to something more like 14-20. I would say $20k is about the upper limit. We'd need oil or something to get beyond that, or maybe even to get to $20k. 15-17 is a more reasonable number.

Hmm. So I guess it'd probably end up somewhere like $17,500 per capita (nominal) which would probably be about $26,000 at PPP.

Maybe if we have oil it'll be higher.

[Nova Anglicana]

Fat chance. By nominal GDP, most South American/Latin American countries are less than $20,000, and really between 10-15. By GDP (PPP), we get a bit of a boost, to something more like 14-20. I would say $20k is about the upper limit. We'd need oil or something to get beyond that, or maybe even to get to $20k. 15-17 is a more reasonable number.

Hmm. So I guess it'd probably end up somewhere like $17,500 per capita (nominal) which would probably be about $26,000 at PPP.

Maybe if we have oil it'll be higher.

By 2013 numbers, the only Latin American countries with a nominal GDP of $17,500 or more were the Bahamas ($23,639) and Trinidad and Tobago ($20,622), if you even count those as Latin American. And they both have special interests (finance and petroleum/gas). If you don't, the next highest were Uruguay ($16,421) and Chile ($15,776). Those are the rich countries. More typical would be Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama, and Brazil, ranging from $10,528 to $11,173.

[Fortschritte]

Hmm. So I guess it'd probably end up somewhere like $17,500 per capita (nominal) which would probably be about $26,000 at PPP.

Maybe if we have oil it'll be higher.

By 2013 numbers, the only Latin American countries with a nominal GDP of $17,500 or more were the Bahamas ($23,639) and Trinidad and Tobago ($20,622), if you even count those as Latin American. If you don't, the next highest were Uruguay ($16,421) and Chile ($15,776). Those are the rich countries. More typical would be Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama, and Brazil, ranging from $10,528 to $11,173.

I'd say $10,000 to $15,000 would be reasonable. We always roleplay as wealthy nations, and I want to try something different for a change.

[Kincoboh]

By 2013 numbers, the only Latin American countries with a nominal GDP of $17,500 or more were the Bahamas ($23,639) and Trinidad and Tobago ($20,622), if you even count those as Latin American. If you don't, the next highest were Uruguay ($16,421) and Chile ($15,776). Those are the rich countries. More typical would be Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama, and Brazil, ranging from $10,528 to $11,173.

I'd say $10,000 to $15,000 would be reasonable. We always roleplay as wealthy nations, and I want to try something different for a change.

I'd say around 15-17k would be good as well.

[Fortschritte]

I'd say $10,000 to $15,000 would be reasonable. We always roleplay as wealthy nations, and I want to try something different for a change.

I'd say around 15-17k would be good as well.

I'd be fine with that as well.

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

Hmm. So I guess it'd probably end up somewhere like $17,500 per capita (nominal) which would probably be about $26,000 at PPP.

Maybe if we have oil it'll be higher.

By 2013 numbers, the only Latin American countries with a nominal GDP of $17,500 or more were the Bahamas ($23,639) and Trinidad and Tobago ($20,622), if you even count those as Latin American. And they both have special interests (finance and petroleum/gas). If you don't, the next highest were Uruguay ($16,421) and Chile ($15,776). Those are the rich countries. More typical would be Costa Rica, Mexico, Panama, and Brazil, ranging from $10,528 to $11,173.

That essentially why I advocate being a country very similar to Uruguay; they are rich enough, but not insanely rich it's implausible.

[The Nihilistic view]

we need a GDP per capita (PPP) of at least $30,000. Otherwise we just won't have a great deal of money to work with, there just won't be the tax base.