NSG Senate General Discussion Thread (Former Lobby)

[Murkwood]

My opinion on location, ranked:

1. Latin America
2. Central Asia
3. Africa
4. Europe
5. North America

[Britanno]

I like Latin America because it can be liberal while also being quite violent (most of the continent has stabilised in recent years, but violence (providing it's not a coup) would be more realistic than if it was in Europe).

[Mollary]

I like Latin America because it can be liberal while also being quite violent (most of the continent has stabilised in recent years, but violence (providing it's not a coup) would be more realistic than if it was in Europe).

The thing is, coups are pretty key to my support for an area.

[Mollary]

But I like this Central Asian plan.

[Gothmogs]

I really like the Central Asia idea. It'll definitely be a learning experience for me.

[Britanno]

Central Asia is less liberal than Fox News. Do we really want to go somewhere where we have realism restrictions again?

Latin America gives us the oppurtunity to be liberal and have reasonable levels of crime.

[Beta Test]

But what about all the inevitable white people who will pop up? In Central Asia?

[The Liberated Territories]

Central Asia is less liberal than Fox News. Do we really want to go somewhere where we have realism restrictions again?

Latin America gives us the oppurtunity to be liberal and have reasonable levels of crime.

I concur. Latin America plz.

[Britanno]

But what about all the inevitable white people who will pop up? In Central Asia?

Ban em'.

[Beta Test]

But what about all the inevitable white people who will pop up? In Central Asia?

Ban em'.

Nah Latin America is better. It allows us to do more.

[Britanno]

Nah Latin America is better. It allows us to do more.

Agreed.

Latin America is the best mix between European stability and African anarchy.

[Great Nepal]

Central Asia is less liberal than Fox News. Do we really want to go somewhere where we have realism restrictions again?

Latin America gives us the oppurtunity to be liberal and have reasonable levels of crime.

But what about all the inevitable white people who will pop up? In Central Asia?

Those are trivil and internal issues, we dont need to have restrictions unless we choose to have them. International crime rings, foreign policies and terrorism however need to fit with locale.

[Gothmogs]

Why do we have to focus on realism so much? We have all the power to decide what WE want, not what the world already decided. If there was a realism problem in Aurentina we didn't ban it, we simply came up with a (somewhat) logical explanation as to why what was, was. If white people pop up, simply explain that we were once occupied by a predominantly white country, or maybe there was a mass exodus of whites to our nation because it had a multitude of Starbucks. And for the liberalism, think about Kurdistan. They're extremely liberal compared to their surrounding cultural groups.

[Beta Test]

Why do we have to focus on realism so much? We have all the power to decide what WE want, not what the world already decided. If there was a realism problem in Aurentina we didn't ban it, we simply came up with a (somewhat) logical explanation as to why what was, was. If white people pop up, simply explain that we were once occupied by a predominantly white country, or maybe there was a mass exodus of whites to our nation because it had a multitude of Starbucks. And for the liberalism, think about Kurdistan. They're extremely liberal compared to their surrounding cultural groups.

Yeah but they're still locals.

There are some things, only a few things, that I don't think we can just ignore. We had the most basic level of realism in Aurentina and we'll have that here. That is one thing that I don't think can be explained.

[Argentarino]

Nah Latin America is better. It allows us to do more.

Agreed.

Latin America is the best mix between European stability and African anarchy.

I think that would be a lovely setting. It's perfect for what everyone wants, I think.

[Great Nepal]

Why do we have to focus on realism so much? We have all the power to decide what WE want, not what the world already decided. If there was a realism problem in Aurentina we didn't ban it, we simply came up with a (somewhat) logical explanation as to why what was, was. If white people pop up, simply explain that we were once occupied by a predominantly white country, or maybe there was a mass exodus of whites to our nation because it had a multitude of Starbucks. And for the liberalism, think about Kurdistan. They're extremely liberal compared to their surrounding cultural groups.

Yeah but they're still locals.

There are some things, only a few things, that I don't think we can just ignore. We had the most basic level of realism in Aurentina and we'll have that here. That is one thing that I don't think can be explained.

On major/ external issues, absolutely.
On internal/ trivial issues, no. Issues regarding race of senators are fundamentally trivial and political orientation are internal matter of the country. There is no requirement to fit surroundings there.

[Beta Test]

Yeah but they're still locals.

There are some things, only a few things, that I don't think we can just ignore. We had the most basic level of realism in Aurentina and we'll have that here. That is one thing that I don't think can be explained.

On major/ external issues, absolutely.
On internal/ trivial issues, no. Issues regarding race of senators are fundamentally trivial and political orientation are internal matter of the country. There is no requirement to fit surroundings there.

Eh, I see your point.

Regardless, Latin America would be a better option, for reasons already stated.

[Fortschritte]

I like the idea of a Latin American senate. It can allow for some liberalism, but there can also be drug violence and other interesting stuff. Furthermore, there can be conflicts between Catholic traditionalism and modern liberalism which is currently seen in parts of Latin America, which could be neat for the senate.

[Great Nepal]

Eh, I see your point.
Regardless, Latin America would be a better option, for reasons already stated.

My primary issue with Latin America is its foreign aspect: with central Asia we have tense geopolitical situation with Chinese Dragon on the East, Russian Bear on the North and middle east on south-west. That gives much better RPing situation and foreign/ defence decisions than stuck in safe corner of the world, hiding behind US umbrella.

[Intermountain States]

If we want to be in Latin America where most legislators are white, we can claim to be from Argentina

[Murkwood]

If we want to be in Latin America where most legislators are white, we can claim to be from Argentina

Actually, I like the idea of an independent Araucania and Patagonia. Mainly because it's fun to say. I'm kidding.

Still, it's a good idea. We could pretend Orélie-Antoine I succeeded, and it's either still a Monarchy or transitioned into a Republic sometime during it's history. That would please the White folks, the supporters of Latin America, Monarchists and Republicans, as well as those who want a set in stone origin. Also, there would be no need to create a new map, as we are taking real territory. And since it was only around from 1860-1862 IRL, it would give us a lot of leeway.

Forget about Vestmark; Put me down for team Araucania and Patagonia!

The territory in question: http://www.araucania.org/image005.jpg

[Britanno]

My primary issue with Latin America is its foreign aspect: with central Asia we have tense geopolitical situation with Chinese Dragon on the East, Russian Bear on the North and middle east on south-west. That gives much better RPing situation and foreign/ defence decisions than stuck in safe corner of the world, hiding behind US umbrella.

Foreign relations are incredibly hard to RP. Latin America will provide the best domestic RP, which is what has been RPed in the last (successfully).

[Belmaria]

Eh, I see your point.
Regardless, Latin America would be a better option, for reasons already stated.

My primary issue with Latin America is its foreign aspect: with central Asia we have tense geopolitical situation with Chinese Dragon on the East, Russian Bear on the North and middle east on south-west. That gives much better RPing situation and foreign/ defence decisions than stuck in safe corner of the world, hiding behind US umbrella.

As a South American nation, we'll have so many domestic issues to deal with that we won't have time for a foreign policy! We'll let the US handle that

[Beta Test]

My primary issue with Latin America is its foreign aspect: with central Asia we have tense geopolitical situation with Chinese Dragon on the East, Russian Bear on the North and middle east on south-west. That gives much better RPing situation and foreign/ defence decisions than stuck in safe corner of the world, hiding behind US umbrella.

Foreign relations are incredibly hard to RP. Latin America will provide the best domestic RP, which is what has been RPed in the last (successfully).

And besides, I think it's a little inaccurate to say that Latin America's foreign policy is decidedly pro-America (Venezuela anyone?).

[Great Nepal]

My primary issue with Latin America is its foreign aspect: with central Asia we have tense geopolitical situation with Chinese Dragon on the East, Russian Bear on the North and middle east on south-west. That gives much better RPing situation and foreign/ defence decisions than stuck in safe corner of the world, hiding behind US umbrella.

Foreign relations are incredibly hard to RP. Latin America will provide the best domestic RP, which is what has been RPed in the last (successfully).

We control domestic RP in any shape we want. If we really wanted to, we could RP Nazi regime in New York... Our location should thus be such that it makes foreign relations easy to RP because there is something to do, and admins can RP nation's reactions.