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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:34 am

Indeed it is, but it is not a criminal act (perjury is a crime). It's a civil wrong. And don't quote me on this, but I believe that they need to be notarised in most countries.

We also don't have a court system, or even a state, yet, so idk how you can have contracts, which are things enforced by courts and governments. :unsure:
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Postby Belmaria » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:41 am

Ainin wrote:Indeed it is, but it is not a criminal act (perjury is a crime). It's a civil wrong. And don't quote me on this, but I believe that they need to be notarised in most countries.

We also don't have a court system, or even a state, yet, so idk how you can have contracts, which are things enforced by courts and governments. :unsure:

We use the honor system at the moment. The non-disclosure agreements are just primarily a formality intended to scare people out of leaking our information, at this point at least.

I'll consult the unofficial party legal team before unofficially moving forward. And you didn't hear it from me.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:45 am

Righto then.

In case you wanted to make an enforceable NDA, this should be a good inspiration.
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Postby Belmaria » Thu Dec 04, 2014 6:50 am

Ainin wrote:Righto then.

In case you wanted to make an enforceable NDA, this should be a good inspiration.

That would be a bit hard to fit into a telegram screen-cap. I'll have to see if I can condense it. Thank you for the help.
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Postby CTALNH » Thu Dec 04, 2014 8:03 am

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Its that or a remake of the USLP :p

Well I'm sure Kam/CTLANH will make another National Bolshevik style Stalinist party (or UMN might make a serious Leninist party).

I am not joining the senate again my time can better be used for watching more porn than getting invested again in this RP.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:00 am

Belmaria wrote:
Ainin wrote:Righto then.

In case you wanted to make an enforceable NDA, this should be a good inspiration.

That would be a bit hard to fit into a telegram screen-cap. I'll have to see if I can condense it. Thank you for the help.

You dont need to, just stick it in a party page and ask people to sign conforming they have read, understood and agree to without purpose of deceit or evasion all the documents with references mentioned.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:26 am

CTALNH wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Well I'm sure Kam/CTLANH will make another National Bolshevik style Stalinist party (or UMN might make a serious Leninist party).

I am not joining the senate again my time can better be used for watching more porn than getting invested again in this RP.


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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:32 am

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CTALNH wrote:I am not joining the senate again my time can better be used for watching more porn than getting invested again in this RP.


Then why are you here?

You see, he feels this immense need to come over here and explain to us just how far he has outgrown us.
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Postby Dejanic » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:17 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Dejanic wrote:Well I'm sure Kam/CTLANH will make another National Bolshevik style Stalinist party (or UMN might make a serious Leninist party).

I am not joining the senate again my time can better be used for watching more porn than getting invested again in this RP.

Do you watch coup style porn?

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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:33 pm

We should probably start working on the history and location.

Latin America or the Balkans could be fun, though I'm leaning towards Latin America. We could take part of Brazil.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:34 pm

Murkwood wrote:We should probably start working on the history and location.

Latin America or the Balkans could be fun, though I'm leaning towards Latin America.

Still entirely backing the idea of Africa, because I simply know that someone will try to do coups and we need a reasonable justification for why that's possible at all.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:34 pm

Murkwood wrote:We should probably start working on the history and location.

Latin America or the Balkans could be fun, though I'm leaning towards Latin America.

Why doesn't anyone one like Asia?
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:35 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Murkwood wrote:We should probably start working on the history and location.

Latin America or the Balkans could be fun, though I'm leaning towards Latin America.

Still entirely backing the idea of Africa, because I simply know that someone will try to do coups and we need a reasonable justification for why that's possible at all.

Hence Latin America. Africa is too chaotic, even by NSGS standards.
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:36 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Murkwood wrote:We should probably start working on the history and location.

Latin America or the Balkans could be fun, though I'm leaning towards Latin America.

Why doesn't anyone one like Asia?

Where in Asia do you suggest?
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Postby Mollary » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:36 pm

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Arglorand wrote:Still entirely backing the idea of Africa, because I simply know that someone will try to do coups and we need a reasonable justification for why that's possible at all.

Hence Latin America. Africa is too chaotic, even by NSGS standards.

Latin American countries are far too stable these days, we demand chaos, proper chaos, and Islamists.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:37 pm

Mollary wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Hence Latin America. Africa is too chaotic, even by NSGS standards.

Latin American countries are far too stable these days, we demand chaos, proper chaos, and Islamists.

Ethnic conflict. Poverty. Ebola. Let's go to Africa.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:38 pm

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Mollary wrote:Latin American countries are far too stable these days, we demand chaos, proper chaos, and Islamists.

Ethnic conflict. Poverty. Ebola. Let's go to Africa.

Namibia? That's fun to say.

Or we could have a Southern African Monarchy, like Lesotho.
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Postby Great Nepal » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:38 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Why doesn't anyone one like Asia?

Where in Asia do you suggest?

Somewhere around central Asia, bordering China and ideally close to middle east. We could have terrorism issues, unstable neighbouring governments explaining coups/ crime-rings and our foreign policy is much more difficult than just hiding behind umbrella of US.
Somewhere like Tajikistan/Uzbekistan.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:40 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Arglorand wrote:Ethnic conflict. Poverty. Ebola. Let's go to Africa.

Namibia? That's fun to say.

Or we could have a Southern African Monarchy, like Lesotho.

Of course you would suggest a monarchy. :P
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:40 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Where in Asia do you suggest?

Somewhere around central Asia, bordering China and ideally close to middle east. We could have terrorism issues, unstable neighbouring governments explaining coups/ crime-rings and our foreign policy is much more difficult than just hiding behind umbrella of US.
Somewhere like Tajikistan/Uzbekistan.

I also like this, tbh.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Britanno » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:41 pm

I like Latin America and Africa.
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:42 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Murkwood wrote:Namibia? That's fun to say.

Or we could have a Southern African Monarchy, like Lesotho.

Of course you would suggest a monarchy. :P

Of course I do.
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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:42 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Somewhere around central Asia, bordering China and ideally close to middle east. We could have terrorism issues, unstable neighbouring governments explaining coups/ crime-rings and our foreign policy is much more difficult than just hiding behind umbrella of US.
Somewhere like Tajikistan/Uzbekistan.

I also like this, tbh.

As do I.
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Postby Arglorand » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:45 pm

Murkwood wrote:
Arglorand wrote:I also like this, tbh.

As do I.

You would get to advocate for returning some ancient Bukharan sultan.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.

Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.

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Postby Murkwood » Thu Dec 04, 2014 12:48 pm

Arglorand wrote:
Murkwood wrote:As do I.

You would get to advocate for returning some ancient Bukharan sultan.

Bring back Mohammed Alim Khan! :p
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Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.

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