NSG Senate General Discussion Thread (Former Lobby)

[Intermountain States]

Come one, come all, to the Republican Reform Party! We are a centre-right big tent party with an established platform and broad membership! As the largest party currently in the works, if you are looking for a solid home for yourself in the coming senate RP, the Republican Reform Party is your best choice!

FISCAL POLICY
Our party believes in a balanced, reasonable approach to fiscal policy by supporting sound and efficient allocation of taxpayer funds, and a reasonable level of taxation that does not rip the shirts off the backs of our citizens. We also support moderate regulation of industry, but prefer market solutions to problems when they are available. We recognise the importance of the commercial backbone of this country, and believe that we should try to make the business climate as friendly as possible for the industrial growth of our nation.

FOREIGN POLICY
Our party favours peace over war, and prefers to make friends with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We value our military, and are faithful to our allies.

SOCIAL POLICY
As a party, we believe in the sovereignty of every individual, so long as it does not trump the common good of all. While we are secular in nature, we are not totally unopposed to progressive stances on various issues. At the same time, we understand the controversial nature of many social issues. As such, we leave these policies up to our members and our representatives, enforcing no strict consensus onto them.

EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE POLICY
Our party is very proud of our nation’s public education and healthcare systems, and hopes to offer our people the best education and the best healthcare for free. However, simultaneously, we understand the benefits of private education and private healthcare, and wish to offer the nation’s people a choice between public and private services. This type of opportunity for individuals to choose the best option that fits their needs makes our public services more competitive in the face of private establishments, and allows us to maintain a safe, practical, and highly-performing public services system.

CRIME AND JUSTICE POLICY
As a party, we believe in the concept of justice wholeheartedly. As such, we support the allocation of adequate funding to our police service in order to provide them with the tools that they need to help keep us safe. Simultaneously, however, we also believe in accountability. Therefore, we strongly support civil liberties, as well as transparency in our police service. For minor delinquencies, we value rehabilitation over punishment, but we are confident in our stance that very harsh crimes deserve very harsh penalties.

ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY
We believe that the environment is important. Therefore, our party supports reasonable environmental regulation that protects the people against pollution and “broken cycles” caused by the extinction of a species. However, we believe very strongly that the needs of the economy should be considered equally important as the needs of the environment, and that an equilibrium should be reached in terms of our nation’s environmental policies. We are also a pro-nuclear and thorium party, as nuclear power, and thorium-based nuclear power in particular, is much more cost effective than Wind and Solar energies, without all the pollution associated with fossil fuels. Thorium is an especially fruitful form of energy production, as there is almost zero risk of a nuclear meltdown, unlike traditional uranium/plutonium-based energy production designs.

• Belmaria (Chairman)
• Arkolon (Deputy Chairman)
• New Zepuha (Honorable Member)
• Finium (Political Affairs Director)
• Zurkerx (Chief Recruiter)
• The Liberated Territories (Party Treasurer)
• Union of the West (Valued Member)
• The Stern Archipelago (Valued Member)

I like the sound of this. I'm not sold on the name, for some reason.

Same here, I do like this party platform but Republican doesn't really have a ring to it to parties other than in the US

[Belmaria]

Come one, come all, to the Republican Reform Party! We are a centre-right big tent party with an established platform and broad membership! As the largest party currently in the works, if you are looking for a solid home for yourself in the coming senate RP, the Republican Reform Party is your best choice!

FISCAL POLICY
Our party believes in a balanced, reasonable approach to fiscal policy by supporting sound and efficient allocation of taxpayer funds, and a reasonable level of taxation that does not rip the shirts off the backs of our citizens. We also support moderate regulation of industry, but prefer market solutions to problems when they are available. We recognise the importance of the commercial backbone of this country, and believe that we should try to make the business climate as friendly as possible for the industrial growth of our nation.

FOREIGN POLICY
Our party favours peace over war, and prefers to make friends with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We value our military, and are faithful to our allies.

SOCIAL POLICY
As a party, we believe in the sovereignty of every individual, so long as it does not trump the common good of all. While we are secular in nature, we are not totally unopposed to progressive stances on various issues. At the same time, we understand the controversial nature of many social issues. As such, we leave these policies up to our members and our representatives, enforcing no strict consensus onto them.

EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE POLICY
Our party is very proud of our nation’s public education and healthcare systems, and hopes to offer our people the best education and the best healthcare for free. However, simultaneously, we understand the benefits of private education and private healthcare, and wish to offer the nation’s people a choice between public and private services. This type of opportunity for individuals to choose the best option that fits their needs makes our public services more competitive in the face of private establishments, and allows us to maintain a safe, practical, and highly-performing public services system.

CRIME AND JUSTICE POLICY
As a party, we believe in the concept of justice wholeheartedly. As such, we support the allocation of adequate funding to our police service in order to provide them with the tools that they need to help keep us safe. Simultaneously, however, we also believe in accountability. Therefore, we strongly support civil liberties, as well as transparency in our police service. For minor delinquencies, we value rehabilitation over punishment, but we are confident in our stance that very harsh crimes deserve very harsh penalties.

ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY
We believe that the environment is important. Therefore, our party supports reasonable environmental regulation that protects the people against pollution and “broken cycles” caused by the extinction of a species. However, we believe very strongly that the needs of the economy should be considered equally important as the needs of the environment, and that an equilibrium should be reached in terms of our nation’s environmental policies. We are also a pro-nuclear and thorium party, as nuclear power, and thorium-based nuclear power in particular, is much more cost effective than Wind and Solar energies, without all the pollution associated with fossil fuels. Thorium is an especially fruitful form of energy production, as there is almost zero risk of a nuclear meltdown, unlike traditional uranium/plutonium-based energy production designs.

• Belmaria (Chairman)
• Arkolon (Deputy Chairman)
• New Zepuha (Honorable Member)
• Finium (Political Affairs Director)
• Zurkerx (Chief Recruiter)
• The Liberated Territories (Party Treasurer)
• Union of the West (Valued Member)
• The Stern Archipelago (Valued Member)

..that sounds quite sensible, sign me up...

Welcome aboard!

Come one, come all, to the Republican Reform Party! We are a centre-right big tent party with an established platform and broad membership! As the largest party currently in the works, if you are looking for a solid home for yourself in the coming senate RP, the Republican Reform Party is your best choice!

FISCAL POLICY
Our party believes in a balanced, reasonable approach to fiscal policy by supporting sound and efficient allocation of taxpayer funds, and a reasonable level of taxation that does not rip the shirts off the backs of our citizens. We also support moderate regulation of industry, but prefer market solutions to problems when they are available. We recognise the importance of the commercial backbone of this country, and believe that we should try to make the business climate as friendly as possible for the industrial growth of our nation.

FOREIGN POLICY
Our party favours peace over war, and prefers to make friends with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We value our military, and are faithful to our allies.

SOCIAL POLICY
As a party, we believe in the sovereignty of every individual, so long as it does not trump the common good of all. While we are secular in nature, we are not totally unopposed to progressive stances on various issues. At the same time, we understand the controversial nature of many social issues. As such, we leave these policies up to our members and our representatives, enforcing no strict consensus onto them.

EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE POLICY
Our party is very proud of our nation’s public education and healthcare systems, and hopes to offer our people the best education and the best healthcare for free. However, simultaneously, we understand the benefits of private education and private healthcare, and wish to offer the nation’s people a choice between public and private services. This type of opportunity for individuals to choose the best option that fits their needs makes our public services more competitive in the face of private establishments, and allows us to maintain a safe, practical, and highly-performing public services system.

CRIME AND JUSTICE POLICY
As a party, we believe in the concept of justice wholeheartedly. As such, we support the allocation of adequate funding to our police service in order to provide them with the tools that they need to help keep us safe. Simultaneously, however, we also believe in accountability. Therefore, we strongly support civil liberties, as well as transparency in our police service. For minor delinquencies, we value rehabilitation over punishment, but we are confident in our stance that very harsh crimes deserve very harsh penalties.

ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY
We believe that the environment is important. Therefore, our party supports reasonable environmental regulation that protects the people against pollution and “broken cycles” caused by the extinction of a species. However, we believe very strongly that the needs of the economy should be considered equally important as the needs of the environment, and that an equilibrium should be reached in terms of our nation’s environmental policies. We are also a pro-nuclear and thorium party, as nuclear power, and thorium-based nuclear power in particular, is much more cost effective than Wind and Solar energies, without all the pollution associated with fossil fuels. Thorium is an especially fruitful form of energy production, as there is almost zero risk of a nuclear meltdown, unlike traditional uranium/plutonium-based energy production designs.

• Belmaria (Chairman)
• Arkolon (Deputy Chairman)
• New Zepuha (Honorable Member)
• Finium (Political Affairs Director)
• Zurkerx (Chief Recruiter)
• The Liberated Territories (Party Treasurer)
• Union of the West (Valued Member)
• The Stern Archipelago (Valued Member)

I like the sound of this. I'm not sold on the name, for some reason.

I would have gone with something else, but we're trying to appeal to moderates and center-rightists with the name. Plus, we have already drafted some legal documents IC with this name, so it would be difficult to change.

[Intermountain States]

..that sounds quite sensible, sign me up...

Welcome aboard!

I like the sound of this. I'm not sold on the name, for some reason.

I would have gone with something else, but we're trying to appeal to moderates and center-rightists with the name. Plus, we have already drafted some legal documents IC with this name, so it would be difficult to change.

What if the players choose to have a monarch instead of a republic?

[Belmaria]

Welcome aboard!

I would have gone with something else, but we're trying to appeal to moderates and center-rightists with the name. Plus, we have already drafted some legal documents IC with this name, so it would be difficult to change.

What if the players choose to have a monarch instead of a republic?

I don't think that's going to happen. But even if it did, we would still have some form of republicanism present, since we will be elected senators, so the name would still make sense.

[The New World Oceania]

So how does that work? Is it like the US House where every member has a distinct area he/she represents or like the US Senate where there are two members for each state?

I do not support the latter; it will cause unnecessary difficulties in drawing the map and won't really enhance the RP at all as far as I can see. Plus, members always seemed to like having a small piece of land in Aurentina that was theirs and marked in their color on the map. That would be lost in a multi-member district.

It's an electoral college basically. So the chance is the winner of our elections might not have the most votes overall.

Each district has an equal number of players. The system which could legitimately leave the winner with the minority vote is the weighted vote.

Information on which constituencies are in which district are public.

And player is supposed to look through that long list, then at constituency map to find who is in what constituency...

Oh no.

People who don't vote aren't counted in the citing of their district's vote. If we wouldn't count it in an at-large election, it wouldn't be counted in the district majority.

Not really my point, players still need to know how their district mates voted (and how they did) to be content with bill being defeated with 55 votes for and 30 against at-large elections.

Considering that in neither district nor at-large elections a defeat with 55 for and 30 against is impossible I'm going to consider this irrelevant. If one were so inclined to learn how their district — which exists purely for administrative purposes — voted, they would go to the election thread, search "District 2," and read the results.

Random number generator is a likely option.

That makes no sense, why would random number rather than shared values be used to determine districts?

What are you talking about? There's nothing to calculate in districts that have the same number of constituencies in each. Random numbers:
Who will be in District 1? RNG says: 12, 18, 76, 49, 11.
Who will be in District 2? RNG says: if you're going to argue this is too much work, so is calculating the weight of a vote out of sixty votes and dealing with complaints of financial realism in campaigning.

A vote reads:

I vote Boris Johnson for Glorious Adviser.
Constituency 92/District 2

So additional work for end user... aim should be to reduce that not increase it.

Posting one's constituency has never been this difficult.
With that argument, they have to make their party known for a weighted vote. Additional work for the end user.

Have you considered making more constituencies

Which people loose their influence when that happens? How is it determined?

I still am not seeing how this is anything but more complicated and worse than weighted vote system.

Influence? Do you understand this system? Make another district!

Drop the nastiness or I'll start warning for flaming. This is a general announcement.

I think we all know the slurs that this is addressed to. No more b-word.

[The Liberated Territories]

Come one, come all, to the Republican Reform Party! We are a centre-right big tent party with an established platform and broad membership! As the largest party currently in the works, if you are looking for a solid home for yourself in the coming senate RP, the Republican Reform Party is your best choice!

FISCAL POLICY
Our party believes in a balanced, reasonable approach to fiscal policy by supporting sound and efficient allocation of taxpayer funds, and a reasonable level of taxation that does not rip the shirts off the backs of our citizens. We also support moderate regulation of industry, but prefer market solutions to problems when they are available. We recognise the importance of the commercial backbone of this country, and believe that we should try to make the business climate as friendly as possible for the industrial growth of our nation.

FOREIGN POLICY
Our party favours peace over war, and prefers to make friends with other nations before becoming enemies with them. However, if a foreign power were to take aggressive actions against our great nation, we would wholly support any effort to defend ourselves and the fine people of our country. We value our military, and are faithful to our allies.

SOCIAL POLICY
As a party, we believe in the sovereignty of every individual, so long as it does not trump the common good of all. While we are secular in nature, we are not totally unopposed to progressive stances on various issues. At the same time, we understand the controversial nature of many social issues. As such, we leave these policies up to our members and our representatives, enforcing no strict consensus onto them.

EDUCATION AND HEALTHCARE POLICY
Our party is very proud of our nation’s public education and healthcare systems, and hopes to offer our people the best education and the best healthcare for free. However, simultaneously, we understand the benefits of private education and private healthcare, and wish to offer the nation’s people a choice between public and private services. This type of opportunity for individuals to choose the best option that fits their needs makes our public services more competitive in the face of private establishments, and allows us to maintain a safe, practical, and highly-performing public services system.

CRIME AND JUSTICE POLICY
As a party, we believe in the concept of justice wholeheartedly. As such, we support the allocation of adequate funding to our police service in order to provide them with the tools that they need to help keep us safe. Simultaneously, however, we also believe in accountability. Therefore, we strongly support civil liberties, as well as transparency in our police service. For minor delinquencies, we value rehabilitation over punishment, but we are confident in our stance that very harsh crimes deserve very harsh penalties.

ENERGY AND ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY
We believe that the environment is important. Therefore, our party supports reasonable environmental regulation that protects the people against pollution and “broken cycles” caused by the extinction of a species. However, we believe very strongly that the needs of the economy should be considered equally important as the needs of the environment, and that an equilibrium should be reached in terms of our nation’s environmental policies. We are also a pro-nuclear and thorium party, as nuclear power, and thorium-based nuclear power in particular, is much more cost effective than Wind and Solar energies, without all the pollution associated with fossil fuels. Thorium is an especially fruitful form of energy production, as there is almost zero risk of a nuclear meltdown, unlike traditional uranium/plutonium-based energy production designs.

• Belmaria (Chairman)
• Arkolon (Deputy Chairman)
• New Zepuha (Honorable Member)
• Finium (Political Affairs Director)
• Zurkerx (Chief Recruiter)
• The Liberated Territories (Party Treasurer)
• Union of the West (Valued Member)
• The Stern Archipelago (Valued Member)

I like the sound of this. I'm not sold on the name, for some reason.

Agreed.

I like the name "New Right Alliance," actually. Calls to mind the populist right wing parties in eastern europe, ex. Poland's Congress of the New Right.

Bel, you're not going to appeal to many people with the name "Republican" it in regardless.

[Beta Test]

I like the sound of this. I'm not sold on the name, for some reason.

Agreed.

I like the name "New Right Alliance," actually. Calls to mind the populist right wing parties in eastern europe, ex. Poland's Congress of the New Right.

Bel, you're not going to appeal to many people with the name "Republican" it in regardless.

I think that's the problem. Reform Party sounds great but there isn't any need to throw that word in there.

[Belmaria]

Agreed.

I like the name "New Right Alliance," actually. Calls to mind the populist right wing parties in eastern europe, ex. Poland's Congress of the New Right.

Bel, you're not going to appeal to many people with the name "Republican" it in regardless.

I think that's the problem. Reform Party sounds great but there isn't any need to throw that word in there.

I'll get to work on changing it then, since there is popular demand. I'll keep you all (Beta, Intermountain, TLT) updated since you seem interested in the party.

Are there any name suggestions on the table?

[The Liberated Territories]

I think that's the problem. Reform Party sounds great but there isn't any need to throw that word in there.

I'll get to work on changing it then, since there is popular demand. I'll keep you all (Beta, Intermountain, TLT) updated since you seem interested in the party.

Are there any name suggestions on the table?

New Right Alliance.

[Belmaria]

I'll get to work on changing it then, since there is popular demand. I'll keep you all (Beta, Intermountain, TLT) updated since you seem interested in the party.

Are there any name suggestions on the table?

New Right Alliance.

I like the name, and I saw it above. I am asking if anyone else would like to propose anything else though.

EDIT: The term "right" may not be the best to use, since we hope to incorporate centrists into our party as well.

[The New World Oceania]

New Right Alliance.

I like the name, and I saw it above. I am asking if anyone else would like to propose anything else though.

What if it were just an acronym? Something that sounded professional, and definitely could stand for something, but what it actually means is kept a secret.

[Intermountain States]

I think that's the problem. Reform Party sounds great but there isn't any need to throw that word in there.

I'll get to work on changing it then, since there is popular demand. I'll keep you all (Beta, Intermountain, TLT) updated since you seem interested in the party.

Are there any name suggestions on the table?

National Reform Party?
National Democratic Party?
Democratic Reform Party?
United *Enter nation name here" Independence Party?

[Belmaria]

I like the name, and I saw it above. I am asking if anyone else would like to propose anything else though.

What if it were just an acronym? Something that sounded professional, and definitely could stand for something, but what it actually means is kept a secret.

Eh...

[Belmaria]

I'll get to work on changing it then, since there is popular demand. I'll keep you all (Beta, Intermountain, TLT) updated since you seem interested in the party.

Are there any name suggestions on the table?

National Reform Party?
National Democratic Party?
Democratic Reform Party?
United *Enter nation name here" Independence Party?

I know I said I didn't like the word "right" in the name, but how do you guys feel about Conservative People's Party? Or *insert nation name* People's Party? Or Democratic People's Party? (Although that last one sounded kinda leftist to me).

[The New World Oceania]

What if it were just an acronym? Something that sounded professional, and definitely could stand for something, but what it actually means is kept a secret.

Eh...

The EH, I love it.

[Belmaria]

Eh...

The EH, I love it.

Extraterrestrial Homosexuals

[Intermountain States]

Popular Reform Party? I do like Reform in the name though

[The Liberated Territories]

New Right Alliance.

I like the name, and I saw it above. I am asking if anyone else would like to propose anything else though.

EDIT: The term "right" may not be the best to use, since we hope to incorporate centrists into our party as well.

Why not?

Aurentina's overtly "right wing" coalition had centrists in it you know.

Otherwise I'll be sticking to it. NRA FTW

[The Liberated Territories]

The EH, I love it.

Extraterrestrial Homosexuals

et go home ur drunk (dialing)

[Belmaria]

I like the name, and I saw it above. I am asking if anyone else would like to propose anything else though.

EDIT: The term "right" may not be the best to use, since we hope to incorporate centrists into our party as well.

Why not?

Aurentina's overtly "right wing" coalition had centrists in it you know.

Otherwise I'll be sticking to it. NRA FTW

That was a coalition, though, not a party. There were centrists in the coalition because they had their own party. I could support any of these names if there was popular demand for any one name in particular. I am a man of the people.

[Great Nepal]

Why does it have to endorse one side of political spectrum? Why not <National Demonym> party?

[Belmaria]

Why does it have to endorse one side of political spectrum? Why not <National Demonym> party?

I don't like the idea of using the nation's name in the party, because we would be insinuating that we are the only true national party, when we're not. How about National Popular Alliance?

[The Liberated Territories]

Why does it have to endorse one side of political spectrum? Why not <National Demonym> party?

I don't like the idea of using the nation's name in the party, because we would be insinuating that we are the only true national party, when we're not. How about National Popular Alliance?

Sounds to populist, and is more for a UKIP or similar party.

[Belmaria]

I don't like the idea of using the nation's name in the party, because we would be insinuating that we are the only true national party, when we're not. How about National Popular Alliance?

Sounds to populist, and is more for a UKIP or similar party.

We need a generally centrist-sounding name then. Any suggestions?

EDIT: National Democratic Party sounds nice. (Credit to Corenea)

[Beta Test]

National Democratic Party sounds good.