NSG Senate General Discussion Thread (Former Lobby)

[Jetan]

The fourth largest country in the world? How about no.

I would support hailing from a large nation, considering the small size of the past two nations. Let's spice things up a bit.

Err, Aurentina was not small.

[Unicario]

No, it really depends. Were the incumbent to have governed during an economic boom, chances are their party is a plural-term executive party, for example. You can't pretend a few occurrences make law. Also, campaign spending does not affect seats by that much. We'd also need a system of checks and balances to prevent the "I'm part-time CEO of Megacorp., my party gets a donation of a billion euros" players. It's a lot of hassle.

But it could be interesting, on second thought. Parties would have to conduct fund-raisers and attract wealthy individuals, within the bounds of financial realism, of course.

Voting works fine. Many other roleplays have failed trying to implement systems of seats and control (HoC, RoW), and "financial realism" sounds like a nightmare.

Turning the NSG Senate into more bureaucracy than fun is a turn-off. Agreed with the above.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

What about a country in the Caribbean? Natural disasters are abundant and it could be overrun with paramilitaries

Indeed this idea could work as well. It would explain the inevitable violence and high crime rates.

And you could pretty much have any colonial influence you wanted because the history is a guaranteed mess.

[Ainin]

The fourth largest country in the world? How about no.

I would support hailing from a large nation, considering the small size of the past two nations. Let's spice things up a bit.

Aurentina was larger than most of Europe.

[Great Nepal]

If we want large, maybe takeover Antartica... we could debate about penguin's rights!

[Jetan]

If we want large, maybe takeover Antartica... we could debate about penguin's rights!

And eat ice.

[Great Nepal]

If we want large, maybe takeover Antartica... we could debate about penguin's rights!

And eat ice.

We could debate penguin's rights in Ice Shop while slapping people with seals for letting their ice melt, perfect!

[Belmaria]

I would support hailing from a large nation, considering the small size of the past two nations. Let's spice things up a bit.

Aurentina was larger than most of Europe.

It was larger than most of Europe, but still only medium sized in the grand scheme of things. I'd support a nation with over 100 million inhabitants.

[Beta Test]

Aurentina was larger than most of Europe.

It was larger than most of Europe, but still only medium sized in the grand scheme of things. I'd support a nation with over 100 million inhabitants.

The problem with being a large, influential nation is it makes what we do relevant to the rest of the world and that stuffs everything up. It's better to be somewhat irrelevant.

[Britanno]

What about a nation in North Africa that is slightly more developed than our neighbours thanks to something that I cba think of right now?

[New Bierstaat]

Below is a preliminary equation

Proposed Election Equation for Parties: (may be placed in code later).

Code: Select all

(Campaign Spending in millions)-(.25*[number of seats owned by party if current President/PM is in Party])+(Number of members in Party)*(Random Popularity Number[1,2,3, or 4])

The seats are rewarded to those parties scoring higher than the average result per party. Seats are taken from parties that have a score lower than that average. The higher or lower your party's number is compared to the average, the more/less respective seats your party will have after the election in comparison to before that election.

Why -(.25*[number of seats owned by party if current President/PM is in Party]? Surely if president/ PM is in the party, party gains greater publicity (since media will cover event if president/PM appears rather than if leader of random party appears) which should translate to more seats...

It also means that the public tends to blame the party in power when there are problems. Hence why in the USA the president's party almost always loses congressional seats in midterm elections.

[Britanno]

It has been a proven fact that the incumbent's party loses seats in an election.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kin ... tion,_1983

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Why -(.25*[number of seats owned by party if current President/PM is in Party]? Surely if president/ PM is in the party, party gains greater publicity (since media will cover event if president/PM appears rather than if leader of random party appears) which should translate to more seats...

It has been a proven fact that the incumbent's party loses seats in an election.

And where did you hear this from?

[The New World Oceania]

Voting works fine.

We have system where people dont vote and MP's are unaccountable... I think word for that is oligarchy.

Many other roleplays have failed trying to implement systems of seats and control (HoC, RoW),

Because they limited people's involvements in parties, this one does not. They also limited number of parties, this does not do that either.

and "financial realism" sounds like a nightmare.

Or rather simple judgement call by admins.

Easier solution than "financial realism" and fake campaigning — district system. Coalitions have their power distributed so that a major coalition vote is weighted equally as a third party's.

[Great Nepal]

We have system where people dont vote and MP's are unaccountable... I think word for that is oligarchy.


Because they limited people's involvements in parties, this one does not. They also limited number of parties, this does not do that either.


Or rather simple judgement call by admins.

Easier solution than "financial realism" and fake campaigning — district system. Coalitions have their power distributed so that a major coalition vote is weighted equally as a third party's.

What, how is having districts with their lines and stuff easier than simple formula in excel spreadsheet? Also how will this actually work given coalitions are not stable bodies.

[Maklohi Vai]

The Senate voted for a blank state start, so there will be no separate thread for those details. We will start with roughly what we started with for Aurentina: name, rough population, rough location, and maybe something else but nothing specific.

Can we start brainstorming in this thread anyway?

Of course.

[Arkolon]

What about a nation in North Africa that is slightly more developed than our neighbours thanks to something that I cba think of right now?

Petrol! Western-oriented, Maghrebian petrol lords. *nods*

[Belmaria]

What about a nation in North Africa that is slightly more developed than our neighbours thanks to something that I cba think of right now?

Petrol! Western-oriented, Maghrebian petrol lords. *nods*

The corruption...

[Arkolon]

Petrol! Western-oriented, Maghrebian petrol lords. *nods*

The corruption...

"Western-oriented".

[Belmaria]

The corruption...

"Western-oriented".

I heard you. Like I said, the corruption...

[Dragomerian Islands]

It has been a proven fact that the incumbent's party loses seats in an election.

And where did you hear this from?

Experience. The USA has almost never had election net gains on the president party.

[Aden Protectorate]

Hey guys whats up?

[Belmaria]

And where did you hear this from?

Experience. The USA has almost never had election net gains on the president party.

Indeed. It's practically a law here in America.

[Murkwood]

The Senate voted for a blank state start, so there will be no separate thread for those details. We will start with roughly what we started with for Aurentina: name, rough population, rough location, and maybe something else but nothing specific.

Can we start brainstorming in this thread anyway?

I personally would like to see (other than Vestmark) a banana republic in Latin America.

That would be really fun, actually.

I support a country in North Africa.

This too.

[Belmaria]

Can we start brainstorming in this thread anyway?

I personally would like to see (other than Vestmark) a banana republic in Latin America.

That would be really fun, actually.

That's why I have Tropico