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Elemental North
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Postby Elemental North » Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:38 am

Hello ladies and gentlemen.

I am the Executive President of the International Congress of Nations, I was invited here by the Right Honorable Next Washington.

I have been a part of both incarnations of the Senate, with different nations-early on in the Aurentina incarnations with Sengrial, and then as it was booting up a few months ago, with this nation.

My take is this, you've become too big, and disorderly, it is impossible to keep track of the different threads you all have, and most people have just given up simply because you have become overly confusing. It's the main reason people don't participate in their RL governments because, when they DO try, they are sent a letter saying that, because of "sub section II paragraph 3 clause 4 amendment 5, made on Tuesday..." you get the idea. Also, no order was enforced. Sure a scary admin-also a bad idea, I'm telling you now-account told them to stop, if even anything went awry, but it ended up simply being the admin arguing with people, or people arguing with other Senators, your parties became defunct, and the activity stopped. because no one knew who to submit what to, and when to do it, and how. So you guys crumbled and died, and unlike when this incarnation of the Senate was being discussed in May, you can no longer blame the fact that it failed on; "approaching summertime activity lulls". It's fall people, school's started, people have time-they simply don't want to participate, most likely for the reasons I've mentioned. So my advice to you?

Try fixing those issues first. Your hooker needs to be cured of crabs, before she can get new makeup. Know what I mean?
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Mediciano
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Postby Mediciano » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:50 pm

Elemental North wrote:Your hooker needs to be cured of crabs, before she can get new makeup. Know what I mean?

Ummm.....no?
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Tue Sep 02, 2014 1:52 pm

Elemental North wrote:-snip-

Who invited high and mighty here?
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Postby Britanno » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:04 pm

Corenea wrote:
Elemental North wrote:-snip-

Who invited high and mighty here?

I agree that the tone wasn't exactly helpful, but I think he makes a good point.
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The New World Oceania
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Postby The New World Oceania » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:10 pm

Britanno wrote:
Corenea wrote:Who invited high and mighty here?

I agree that the tone wasn't exactly helpful, but I think he makes a good point.


Does he? The only good point I saw was about laws passed already turning people away. Outstanding size seems the opposite of our problem.

And it was NW, the self-proclaimed Admin, of course.
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Next Washington
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Postby Next Washington » Tue Sep 02, 2014 2:13 pm

The New World Oceania wrote:
Britanno wrote:I agree that the tone wasn't exactly helpful, but I think he makes a good point.


Does he? The only good point I saw was about laws passed already turning people away. Outstanding size seems the opposite of our problem.

And it was NW, the self-proclaimed Admin, of course.

He has some points, though I don't agree with everything. And I don't remember proclaiming myself admin :roll: , just know him from ICON and know that he has been in the old senate for a while too, so i thought i invite him to join us. Though it's not like if I'd have to justify myself just for inviting a player ;)
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Maklohi Vai
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:19 pm

Next Washington wrote:The article I now submitted to the RP news:
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Leishaagen. (NSGNA) Following the political turmoil that led to the dissolvement of the Aurentine NSG Senate, and the failed attempt to bring back the Senate in the region of Baltonia, the NSG News Agency is proud to announce that a number of former senators is attempting to re-form a government and lead the NSG Senate back to the glory of former days.

"We should start it back up soon!", "We need something to do!", "There are also some of us who wish to return!" were just some of the euphoric reactions of several former senators following the consensus that the Senate has to be re-activated.

"The old Senate was very broad. From left wingers to communists, to right wingers and centrists, monarchists and libertarians, the political spectrum was massive.", a former senator remembers about the Senate. "That's true, we had lots of good debates, we had events like an LGBT pride parade as well as our beloved coffee shop, and together we managed some severe crisises, like the terrorist bombing of our Senate building. But damn, that were good times...", another former member recalls.

"The problem is, many of our former colleagues have gone other ways in their life and can not participate in the new Senate. Others have vanished from this earth completely, what leaves the group of original senators who are still active very small.", one senator, who asked to remain anonymous, said about the participance. "That's my point, if we had more members it would last longer.", another senator stresses the need for more new senators.

"We therefore would like to invite everyone who is interested in politics to join our discussion and share his thoughts with us.", a former member of the Cabinet says. "Time for some new ideas!", a former member of the National Intelligencery shouts to the reporter.

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hopefully that gets us more attention

We would have appreciated it if you had run this by the members of the roleplay first. It's our business whether or not to advertise at this point. Nonetheless, I do recognize that you're trying to help out, and I appreciate that. I recommend taking a step back and doing a little more observation and passive involvement before trying to jump on every issue.

Elemental North wrote:Hello ladies and gentlemen.

I am the Executive President of the International Congress of Nations, I was invited here by the Right Honorable Next Washington.

I have been a part of both incarnations of the Senate, with different nations-early on in the Aurentina incarnations with Sengrial, and then as it was booting up a few months ago, with this nation.

My take is this, you've become too big, and disorderly, it is impossible to keep track of the different threads you all have, and most people have just given up simply because you have become overly confusing. It's the main reason people don't participate in their RL governments because, when they DO try, they are sent a letter saying that, because of "sub section II paragraph 3 clause 4 amendment 5, made on Tuesday..." you get the idea. Also, no order was enforced. Sure a scary admin-also a bad idea, I'm telling you now-account told them to stop, if even anything went awry, but it ended up simply being the admin arguing with people, or people arguing with other Senators, your parties became defunct, and the activity stopped. because no one knew who to submit what to, and when to do it, and how. So you guys crumbled and died, and unlike when this incarnation of the Senate was being discussed in May, you can no longer blame the fact that it failed on; "approaching summertime activity lulls". It's fall people, school's started, people have time-they simply don't want to participate, most likely for the reasons I've mentioned. So my advice to you?

Try fixing those issues first. Your hooker needs to be cured of crabs, before she can get new makeup. Know what I mean?

We know. We were here and we understand for the most part what went right and what didn't. We know the issues and we're talking about ways to solve them. Bringing up the issues anew doesn't help much, and when combined with your tone it's not adding much to the discussion. Thank you for pitching in, and we'd be glad to have you be a part of the discussion, but please stick around for a bit longer before going into the more complex diagnoses.
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Greater Weselton
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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:14 pm

I hope the a party similar to the KSDLP never rises again.
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:31 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:I hope the a party similar to the KSDLP never rises again.


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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:32 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:I hope the a party similar to the KSDLP never rises again.

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The New World Oceania
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Postby The New World Oceania » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:55 pm

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Greater Weselton
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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:57 pm

District XIV wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:I hope the a party similar to the KSDLP never rises again.

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I really did hate the KSDLP. They were intent on fooling people.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:59 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
District XIV wrote:

I really did hate the KSDLP. They were intent on fooling people.

So are you, it seems. No one gives a damn either way; please stop.

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Greater Weselton
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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:09 pm

District XIV wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:I really did hate the KSDLP. They were intent on fooling people.

So are you, it seems. No one gives a damn either way; please stop.

How am I intent on fooling people?
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:11 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
District XIV wrote:So are you, it seems. No one gives a damn either way; please stop.

How am I intent on fooling people?

But you are intent on not respecting people and ignoring admin ruling
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Greater Weselton
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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:13 pm

Corenea wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:How am I intent on fooling people?

But you are intent on not respecting people and ignoring admin ruling

How did I not respect people?
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Postby Malgrave » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:14 pm

Corenea wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:How am I intent on fooling people?

But you are intent on not respecting people and ignoring admin ruling


I don't know if I should feel annoyed that he has returned or not feel anything at all.

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Postby The Nihilistic view » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:15 pm

I think we should all join the KSDLP. *nods*
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Corenea
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Postby Corenea » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:15 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
Corenea wrote:But you are intent on not respecting people and ignoring admin ruling

How did I not respect people?

You ignore admin rulings on alot of areas, you go around spamming the thread for your admin-vetoes witch hunt, and you never seem to judge people with character, only using your McCarthyist attitude as judgement
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:17 pm

Corenea wrote:
Greater Weselton wrote:How did I not respect people?

You ignore admin rulings on alot of areas, you go around spamming the thread for your admin-vetoes witch hunt, and you never seem to judge people with character, only using your McCarthyist attitude as judgement

And don't forget the anti-communist bullshit that he claims as "roleplay".

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Postby Corenea » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:19 pm

District XIV wrote:
Corenea wrote:You ignore admin rulings on alot of areas, you go around spamming the thread for your admin-vetoes witch hunt, and you never seem to judge people with character, only using your McCarthyist attitude as judgement

And don't forget the anti-communist bullshit that he claims as "roleplay".

That too, I mean I'm anti-communist but I'm not a big dick about it and waving it around people's face, well not as much as I used to.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:24 pm

Corenea wrote:
District XIV wrote:And don't forget the anti-communist bullshit that he claims as "roleplay".

That too, I mean I'm anti-communist but I'm not a big dick about it and waving it around people's face, well not as much as I used to.

Of course. It's fine to be anti-communist, but if your "roleplay" consists only of one-liner anti-communist statements like RSSS's then it just gets fucking annoying.

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Postby Greater Weselton » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:25 pm

District XIV wrote:
Corenea wrote:That too, I mean I'm anti-communist but I'm not a big dick about it and waving it around people's face, well not as much as I used to.

Of course. It's fine to be anti-communist, but if your "roleplay" consists only of one-liner anti-communist statements like RSSS's then it just gets fucking annoying.

I also did other political stuff.
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Postby District XIV » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:27 pm

Greater Weselton wrote:
District XIV wrote:Of course. It's fine to be anti-communist, but if your "roleplay" consists only of one-liner anti-communist statements like RSSS's then it just gets fucking annoying.

I also did other political stuff.

Like what? Links please.

If that is true, even so, the majority of the stuff you did was anti-communist one-line BS.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Sep 02, 2014 5:29 pm

Greater Weselton, formerly known as Russian Soviet Socialist States, you are hereby WARNED for ignoring admin orders and being disruptive to the Senate through such manners as persistent spamming. As you have four previous warnings, you are hereby also BANNED from this roleplay and placed on warning level BLACK. You may no longer post in any thread associated with this roleplay. After 8 weeks, you may present a formal case to the administration to un-ban you. That decision rests solely with the administration.

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