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Postby Britanno » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:38 pm

Why is everyone calling Latin America European? I don't get it...
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Postby Unicario » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:40 pm

Britanno wrote:Why is everyone calling Latin America European? I don't get it...


Latin America is entirely populated by Spanish-descended people.

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Postby Estva » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:40 pm

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Estva wrote:This is the easiest way to do things, and it is more fun to interact with the existing countries with slight alternate history.

Our internal politics is going to differ from whatever our environment is because NS is by nature more extreme and liberals than 99% of nations. Either you have Baltonia like restrictions - never going to happen or we go with Aurentina where we legalized abortion completely within first few months.

The difference is not the internal politics but the setting and flavor. We will likely still have some realism restrictions.
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Postby Britanno » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:42 pm

Unicario wrote:Latin America is entirely populated by Spanish-descended people.

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So? It has a Spanishy culture.

I don't see how that means it's European. Europe doesn't have the drug violence, riots etc. that Latin America gives us.

Asia's just a shitstorm that will be uncontrollable.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:44 pm

Estva wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Our internal politics is going to differ from whatever our environment is because NS is by nature more extreme and liberals than 99% of nations. Either you have Baltonia like restrictions - never going to happen or we go with Aurentina where we legalized abortion completely within first few months.

The difference is not the internal politics but the setting and flavor.

Largely immaterial to RP. We never discussed MP's culture or colour ICly, its essentially trivial and rejecting/favouring location over other based on it doesn't make sense.

Estva wrote:We will likely still have some realism restrictions.

Seeing how that was blamed for Baltonia's failure, I highly doubt so.
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Postby Estva » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:47 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Largely immaterial to RP. We never discussed MP's culture or colour ICly, its essentially trivial and rejecting/favouring location over other based on it doesn't make sense.

How is it immaterial? If we have realism restriction, then it will matter a lot.
Great Nepal wrote:Seeing how that was blamed for Baltonia's failure, I highly doubt so.

It was one contribution people blamed, by the grand centrist coalition had more to do with it than anything else.
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:49 pm

We can have a 50% split between white people and non-whites. Fair enough compromise.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:49 pm

Unicario wrote:
Britanno wrote:Why is everyone calling Latin America European? I don't get it...


Latin America is entirely populated by Spanish-descended people.

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And Portuguese, Italian, British, Dutch, French......and don't forget the natives. Not quite all the original peoples were murdered or died of European diseases.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:53 pm

Actually, Latin America is not entirely populated by Spanish-descended people. The largest country in Latin America, Brazil, was colonized by the Portuguese, not the Spanish. The population of most Latin American countries is mostly a mix of people of indigenous descent, African descent, and European(from Spain, Portugal, Italy, Germany, Britain) descent. There are also sizable numbers of people from the Middle East, Lebanon especially. Caribbean nations are composed almost entirely of the descendants of former slaves, as the indigenous populations were wiped out and the Europeans left when the colonies gained independence.
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Postby The State of Deseret » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:53 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Estva wrote:The difference is not the internal politics but the setting and flavor.

Largely immaterial to RP. We never discussed MP's culture or colour ICly, its essentially trivial and rejecting/favouring location over other based on it doesn't make sense.

Estva wrote:We will likely still have some realism restrictions.

Seeing how that was blamed for Baltonia's failure, I highly doubt so.

There should be restrictions otherwise theres no point choosing a nation's location.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:54 pm

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I'm not sure many people in an intellectual, politically-orientated forum are likely to get that reference, you might want to make it slightly less subtle...


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Postby Ainin » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:57 pm

Great Nepal wrote:Relatively average in comparison to Europe.

In other words, floating in money....
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 06, 2014 5:57 pm

The State of Deseret wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Largely immaterial to RP. We never discussed MP's culture or colour ICly, its essentially trivial and rejecting/favouring location over other based on it doesn't make sense.


Seeing how that was blamed for Baltonia's failure, I highly doubt so.

There should be restrictions otherwise theres no point choosing a nation's location.

Of course there is: our entire foreign and defence policy's depths depends upon it.
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Postby The State of Deseret » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:02 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
The State of Deseret wrote:There should be restrictions otherwise theres no point choosing a nation's location.

Of course there is: our entire foreign and defence policy's depths depends upon it.

Should still be a bit affecting on Policies and Ideological acceptance.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:07 pm

The State of Deseret wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Of course there is: our entire foreign and defence policy's depths depends upon it.

Should still be a bit affecting on Policies and Ideological acceptance.

No, Baltonia showed forcing people to contrive their ideology doesn't work.
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Postby United Provinces of Atlantica » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:08 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:We can have a 50% split between white people and non-whites. Fair enough compromise.

So like Peru and Bolivia (obviously the economy & culture would be more Uruguayan or Chilean or Argentine)? Like it.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:08 pm

Great Nepal wrote:No, Baltonia showed forcing people to contrive their ideology doesn't work.

People are either going to rp their own political ideology(the majority) or a carefully build their character's political ideas. I doubt geography is going to have much of an impact on it.

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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:12 pm

Kralta wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:No, Baltonia showed forcing people to contrive their ideology doesn't work.

People are either going to rp their own political ideology(the majority) or a carefully build their character's political ideas. I doubt geography is going to have much of an impact on it.

So why determine geography based on what would be close to "realistic" for political believes rather than only thing location determines: dept of foreign and military policy.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:14 pm

Great Nepal wrote:
Kralta wrote:People are either going to rp their own political ideology(the majority) or a carefully build their character's political ideas. I doubt geography is going to have much of an impact on it.

So why determine geography based on what would be close to "realistic" for political believes rather than only thing location determines: dept of foreign and military policy.

I'm one of the few people that really doesn't care where the country is, so don't ask me.

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Postby Belmaria » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:18 pm

Ainin wrote:<3 your logo

Arglorand wrote:For starters, there're Canada's hate speech laws, where advocating hatred, or "hate propaganda", is rather narrowly and clearly defined. Namely, "any writing, sign or visible representation that advocates or promotes genocide or the communication of which by any person would constitute an offence under section 319." Virtually no criticism of the government has to involve advocating for genocide, I'm sure.

There also used to be Section 13 of the Human Rights Act banning hateful speech through media, but fucking Harper repealed it.

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Postby Aden Protectorate » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:22 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Ainin wrote:<3 your logo


There also used to be Section 13 of the Human Rights Act banning hateful speech through media, but fucking Harper repealed it.

Kudos to Harper

Ewh. Harper.

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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:23 pm

Belmaria wrote:
Ainin wrote:<3 your logo


There also used to be Section 13 of the Human Rights Act banning hateful speech through media, but fucking Harper repealed it.

Kudos to Harper

Why did you bring a post from the Democratic Left thread over here? Just wondering.
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Postby Belmaria » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:24 pm

Kralta wrote:
Belmaria wrote:Kudos to Harper

Why did you bring a post from the Democratic Left thread over here? Just wondering.

Because I didn't want to barge into their thread, but I also wanted to reply.
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Postby Kralta » Sat Dec 06, 2014 6:29 pm

Fair enough.

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Postby Alevuss » Sat Dec 06, 2014 8:22 pm

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