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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:32 pm

I was just thinking that it might be interesting to do an RP on hijras.

Then I remembered that the Wrath of Khan would fall upon any who make an RP set in India.
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Postby Alleniana » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:51 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:I was just thinking that it might be interesting to do an RP on hijras.

Then I remembered that the Wrath of Khan would fall upon any who make an RP set in India.

unless you set the POD at 100,000 BC

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Postby Nature-Spirits » Mon Dec 08, 2014 11:57 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:I was just thinking that it might be interesting to do an RP on hijras.

Then I remembered that the Wrath of Khan would fall upon any who make an RP set in India.

unless you set the POD at 100,000 BC

... Why would I do an RP about hijras, looking at how they interact with modern society... in 100 000 BC?
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:09 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Alleniana wrote:unless you set the POD at 100,000 BC

... Why would I do an RP about hijras, looking at how they interact with modern society... in 100 000 BC?

POD is point of divergence; the point at which the world no longer corresponds to the one we live in.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:31 am

Nature-Spirits wrote:I was just thinking that it might be interesting to do an RP on hijras.

Then I remembered that the Wrath of Khan would fall upon any who make an RP set in India.


RP set in India...?
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Dec 09, 2014 2:11 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:... Why would I do an RP about hijras, looking at how they interact with modern society... in 100 000 BC?

POD is point of divergence; the point at which the world no longer corresponds to the one we live in.

Ah.

However, the point would be to look at the reality of it. Not to completely reimagine the entirety of India.

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Nature-Spirits wrote:I was just thinking that it might be interesting to do an RP on hijras.

Then I remembered that the Wrath of Khan would fall upon any who make an RP set in India.


RP set in India...?

Yes. Hijras are a caste of third-gendered people in India. Night, being from India, has stated his intention to obliterate utterly anyone who makes an RP set in India, because it would be too inaccurate.
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Postby Ammar » Tue Dec 09, 2014 4:49 pm

I want to do a gladiator RP, but I don't know whether to set it in ancient times or some kind of future.
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Postby The Starlight » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:05 pm

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:08 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Alleniana wrote:POD is point of divergence; the point at which the world no longer corresponds to the one we live in.

Ah.

However, the point would be to look at the reality of it. Not to completely reimagine the entirety of India.

Yes, but that's why he couldn't have a problem with it. :P
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Postby Nature-Spirits » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:14 pm

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Nature-Spirits wrote:Ah.

However, the point would be to look at the reality of it. Not to completely reimagine the entirety of India.

Yes, but that's why he couldn't have a problem with it. :P
Just about everything can have a disclaimer attached, "unless with a POD of <insert ridiculously long time ago here>."

Ah, I see your logic now.
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Postby Ayreonia » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:18 pm

Nature-Spirits wrote:
Alleniana wrote:POD is point of divergence; the point at which the world no longer corresponds to the one we live in.

Ah.

However, the point would be to look at the reality of it. Not to completely reimagine the entirety of India.

Altito Asmoro wrote:
RP set in India...?

Yes. Hijras are a caste of third-gendered people in India. Night, being from India, has stated his intention to obliterate utterly anyone who makes an RP set in India, because it would be too inaccurate.

So let's not set RPs anywhere else than the country we live in, or what...?
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Postby TriStates » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:43 pm

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Nature-Spirits wrote:Ah.

However, the point would be to look at the reality of it. Not to completely reimagine the entirety of India.


Yes. Hijras are a caste of third-gendered people in India. Night, being from India, has stated his intention to obliterate utterly anyone who makes an RP set in India, because it would be too inaccurate.

So let's not set RPs anywhere else than the country we live in, or what...?


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Postby Gvozdevsk » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:50 pm

Ayreonia wrote:So let's not set RPs anywhere else than the country we live in, or what...?

We sure could have a lot of fun with an RP set in a realistic interpretation of Canada... said no one ever.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:51 pm

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Ayreonia wrote:So let's not set RPs anywhere else than the country we live in, or what...?

We sure could have a lot of fun with an RP set in a realistic interpretation of Canada... said no one ever.

Depends on what period of history in Canada.

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Postby Gvozdevsk » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:03 pm

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Gvozdevsk wrote:We sure could have a lot of fun with an RP set in a realistic interpretation of Canada... said no one ever.

Depends on what period of history in Canada.

Trust me, beyond the War of 1812, the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion and the October Crisis it's all pretty boring.

This has got me thinking though, an RP based around the October Crisis going tits up and turning into a literal shooting war between Canada and Quebecois nationalists.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Dec 09, 2014 6:09 pm

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Alleniana wrote:Depends on what period of history in Canada.

Trust me, beyond the War of 1812, the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion and the October Crisis it's all pretty boring.

This has got me thinking though, an RP based around the October Crisis going tits up and turning into a literal shooting war between Canada and Quebecois nationalists.

The coureurs de bois, Viking colonisation, illegal fur traders, French & Indian Wars, Hudson Bay Company, Seven Years War, post-Confederation politics in general, Halifax disaster, etc.
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Postby Zeinbrad » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:33 am

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Alleniana wrote:Depends on what period of history in Canada.

Trust me, beyond the War of 1812, the Rebellions of 1837, the Red River Rebellion and the October Crisis it's all pretty boring.

This has got me thinking though, an RP based around the October Crisis going tits up and turning into a literal shooting war between Canada and Quebecois nationalists.

Can I be American mercenaries? :p

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Postby Ayreonia » Wed Dec 10, 2014 10:45 am

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Ayreonia wrote:So let's not set RPs anywhere else than the country we live in, or what...?


No. Just that we feel inclined to not get on the bad side of a P2TM mentor, and continue with our little, happy, NS lives.

That's what it implies.
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Postby Eon Prime » Wed Dec 10, 2014 6:51 pm

RP INTEREST AND FEEDBACK REQUEST
Please provide as much detail as possible.
RP's Overarching Concept: I'm trying to make an RP inspired by, but not set in, the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. My aim is for it to share a lot of themes and ideas with Malazan, while being able to appeal to people who are not familiar with the series (and avoiding unattractive things like copy-pasting lore and characters from the series, used rigidly and unimaginatively). The series involves great wars, the rise and fall of empires, the affairs of gods, and a wide world filled with ancient mysteries ready to be unfolded.
Genre/s: Epic Fantasy
Character or Faction Based: Character Focused, Faction Influenced
Detailed Description: I hope you don't mind Google Docs.

Need Help With: Putting the RP together, to an extent. I am known, elsewhere at least, for my expansive OPs and so I typically have no problem with this step. However, I'd like other people who are familiar with the series and what I'm trying to achieve to provide their input, and perhaps collaborate with me to make cohesive lore before I'm ready to move this forward.

Either that, or to tell me that I'm focusing on the wrong things and I need to reevaluate how I approach making an RP.

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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:17 pm

Eon Prime wrote:RP INTEREST AND FEEDBACK REQUEST
Please provide as much detail as possible.
RP's Overarching Concept: I'm trying to make an RP inspired by, but not set in, the Malazan Book of the Fallen series. My aim is for it to share a lot of themes and ideas with Malazan, while being able to appeal to people who are not familiar with the series (and avoiding unattractive things like copy-pasting lore and characters from the series, used rigidly and unimaginatively). The series involves great wars, the rise and fall of empires, the affairs of gods, and a wide world filled with ancient mysteries ready to be unfolded.
Genre/s: Epic Fantasy
Character or Faction Based: Character Focused, Faction Influenced
Detailed Description: I hope you don't mind Google Docs.

Need Help With: Putting the RP together, to an extent. I am known, elsewhere at least, for my expansive OPs and so I typically have no problem with this step. However, I'd like other people who are familiar with the series and what I'm trying to achieve to provide their input, and perhaps collaborate with me to make cohesive lore before I'm ready to move this forward.

Either that, or to tell me that I'm focusing on the wrong things and I need to reevaluate how I approach making an RP.

Please leave this hashtag in place: #Mentorhelp


You seem to be doing fairly well with your current draft, though perhaps an explanation of the world/continent's current state of affairs is in order (the explanation of the seventh epoch doesn't really dwelve into that very much), if only so that those unfamiliar with the series will know the state of things.

Aside from that, I can't help you much. I don't know about the Malazan Book of the Fallen series, I'm afraid. That said, I don't think you're approaching this the wrong way. Exposition is good, and given how you're basing your RP off of an existing series, it is best to explain the canon you want to be part of your RP as much as possible.
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Postby Eon Prime » Wed Dec 10, 2014 7:30 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:You seem to be doing fairly well with your current draft, though perhaps an explanation of the world/continent's current state of affairs is in order (the explanation of the seventh epoch doesn't really dwelve into that very much), if only so that those unfamiliar with the series will know the state of things.

Aside from that, I can't help you much. I don't know about the Malazan Book of the Fallen series, I'm afraid. That said, I don't think you're approaching this the wrong way. Exposition is good, and given how you're basing your RP off of an existing series, it is best to explain the canon you want to be part of your RP as much as possible.


Thanks, it's nice to have my exposition validated.

To be clear, none of the lore in my draft is from the series itself. I am making, from the ground up, a distinctly similar world which is entirely its own. Which is why I said inspired by an existing series, but not based, since it isn't actually based in the setting itself.

Edit: And I'm really looking for some people, whether they're familiar with the series or not, who are interested enough in what I have to perhaps become involved in helping me complete the lore. It might actually be beneficial to have someone unfamiliar with the inspiration material, as an unbiased eye.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed Dec 10, 2014 8:34 pm

Eon Prime wrote:
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:You seem to be doing fairly well with your current draft, though perhaps an explanation of the world/continent's current state of affairs is in order (the explanation of the seventh epoch doesn't really dwelve into that very much), if only so that those unfamiliar with the series will know the state of things.

Aside from that, I can't help you much. I don't know about the Malazan Book of the Fallen series, I'm afraid. That said, I don't think you're approaching this the wrong way. Exposition is good, and given how you're basing your RP off of an existing series, it is best to explain the canon you want to be part of your RP as much as possible.


Thanks, it's nice to have my exposition validated.

To be clear, none of the lore in my draft is from the series itself. I am making, from the ground up, a distinctly similar world which is entirely its own. Which is why I said inspired by an existing series, but not based, since it isn't actually based in the setting itself.

Edit: And I'm really looking for some people, whether they're familiar with the series or not, who are interested enough in what I have to perhaps become involved in helping me complete the lore. It might actually be beneficial to have someone unfamiliar with the inspiration material, as an unbiased eye.


No problem. :P.

And, well, that does explain a lot. Then I'll commend you for making all that up. It also makes the whole thing feel more flexible, since now I know it's not based on the books' lore, though that bit is honestly just my opinion.

If it's brainstorming you'd like some help with, I may not be too readily available (not right now, for example), but I'm willing to help you, if you tell me what parts of the lore and such you would like some assistance with. It doesn't seem like your lore is lacking much so far though, aside from the obvious bits (species).
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Postby Eon Prime » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:17 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
No problem. :P.

And, well, that does explain a lot. Then I'll commend you for making all that up. It also makes the whole thing feel more flexible, since now I know it's not based on the books' lore, though that bit is honestly just my opinion.

If it's brainstorming you'd like some help with, I may not be too readily available (not right now, for example), but I'm willing to help you, if you tell me what parts of the lore and such you would like some assistance with. It doesn't seem like your lore is lacking much so far though, aside from the obvious bits (species).


Flexibility was the goal ^_^

I might actually slow down, I started work on that OP last night and it sort of burned me out. If I work more patiently (not my strong suit) I might take you up on the offer when you have more time on your hands. I am really in no rush, now that I think about it.
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Postby Zarkenis Ultima » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:19 pm

Eon Prime wrote:
Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
No problem. :P.

And, well, that does explain a lot. Then I'll commend you for making all that up. It also makes the whole thing feel more flexible, since now I know it's not based on the books' lore, though that bit is honestly just my opinion.

If it's brainstorming you'd like some help with, I may not be too readily available (not right now, for example), but I'm willing to help you, if you tell me what parts of the lore and such you would like some assistance with. It doesn't seem like your lore is lacking much so far though, aside from the obvious bits (species).


Flexibility was the goal ^_^

I might actually slow down, I started work on that OP last night and it sort of burned me out. If I work more patiently (not my strong suit) I might take you up on the offer when you have more time on your hands. I am really in no rush, now that I think about it.


That would be a wise decision. Rushing things is usually not a good idea.

You might do well to poke around and see if some other people might be interested in this, your friends and such. Not everyone in P2TM frequents the café after all.
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Postby Eon Prime » Wed Dec 10, 2014 9:23 pm

Zarkenis Ultima wrote:
That would be a wise decision. Rushing things is usually not a good idea.

You might do well to poke around and see if some other people might be interested in this, your friends and such. Not everyone in P2TM frequents the café after all.


Well this was my first time posting in nearly two years, I'm not sure I have much in the way of friends here anymore.

I did contact someone I know enjoys the Malazan series, he in fact suggested it to me two years ago, but he seems busy as well so lowering my pace would prove beneficial.
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