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Kedri
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Postby Kedri » Tue Oct 28, 2014 4:16 pm

Alleniana wrote:
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Interesting, but how would it work out? I am thinking of having it be a war between two religions with different attitudes towards magic.
Like our RL Crusade mixed with the witch hunts from the Dark Ages, where medieval knights are battling sorcerers instead of Muslims.

Err, that would just feel like a witch hunt IMO. The Crusades were cool because of the clash of cultures, the ancient battlefield.


I guess you're right. But what is the point of worldbuilding a copy and paste version of Crusaders and Muslims when I can just use the real ones?
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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:39 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Err, that would just feel like a witch hunt IMO. The Crusades were cool because of the clash of cultures, the ancient battlefield.

the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion


Yes, the barbaric west invaded the civilized Islamic world.
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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:42 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion


Yes, the barbaric west invaded the civilized Islamic world.

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Postby Altito Asmoro » Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:45 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
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Yes, the barbaric west invaded the civilized Islamic world.

Oh, this is going good places.


I don't understand of that sentence you just wrote, Tiger.

But yes, we can't make a similarity between Crusade and Barbarian Invasion (You can, but not when the Crusade was still about religion)
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:14 pm

Altito Asmoro wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion


Yes, the barbaric west invaded the civilized Islamic world.

The Islamic World was significantly more advanced during the time period.

It's a reference, though, to many relatively modern interpretations of the Crusades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Run ... valuations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiogr ... historians
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Oct 28, 2014 9:48 pm

Kedri wrote:
Alleniana wrote:Err, that would just feel like a witch hunt IMO. The Crusades were cool because of the clash of cultures, the ancient battlefield.


I guess you're right. But what is the point of worldbuilding a copy and paste version of Crusaders and Muslims when I can just use the real ones?

Fun tweaks. It's why I do AH; plenty of good stuff in the real world, but it's possible to make it cooler.
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Altito Asmoro wrote:
Yes, the barbaric west invaded the civilized Islamic world.

The Islamic World was significantly more advanced during the time period.

It's a reference, though, to many relatively modern interpretations of the Crusades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_History_of_the_Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Run ... valuations
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historiogr ... historians

Though I'd say that this interpretation is more justified than the "glorious Krischen kill dirty mussie" one, I'd also feel it's quite biased towards the Muslims, insofar as they fought the Christians in the Crusades.

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Postby Agritum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:01 pm

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Alleniana wrote:Err, that would just feel like a witch hunt IMO. The Crusades were cool because of the clash of cultures, the ancient battlefield.

the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion

It can't really be summed up to that, given that both sides had their virtues and faults. The crusaders intervened due to faith and to protect Byzantine territories, the Muslims fought for faith too.

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Postby Alleniana » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:02 pm

Agritum wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion

It can't really be summed up to that, given that both sides had their virtues and faults. The crusaders intervened due to faith and to protect Byzantine territories, the Muslims fought for faith too.

I think that might have been a bit humorous.

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:04 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Agritum wrote:It can't really be summed up to that, given that both sides had their virtues and faults. The crusaders intervened due to faith and to protect Byzantine territories, the Muslims fought for faith too.

I think that might have been a bit humorous.

Am I the only one in this thread whose name doesn't fucking start with "A"?
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Postby Alleniana » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:06 pm

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I think that might have been a bit humorous.

Am I the only one in this thread whose name doesn't fucking start with "A"?
Jesus.

Nightkill Nightkill Nightkill
That should break up the A chain.

Though, this thread doesn't have it too bad, to be honest. In my maths class, I sometimes find myself part of a table with 4 "Al"s.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:17 pm

Agritum wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:the crusades were really just a barbarian invasion

It can't really be summed up to that, given that both sides had their virtues and faults. The crusaders intervened due to faith and to protect Byzantine territories, the Muslims fought for faith too.

My post was meant to be humorous. :p
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Postby Agritum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:35 pm

Arumdaum wrote:
Agritum wrote:It can't really be summed up to that, given that both sides had their virtues and faults. The crusaders intervened due to faith and to protect Byzantine territories, the Muslims fought for faith too.

My post was meant to be humorous. :p

You sounded like one of those parody SJWs, in retrospect.

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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:40 pm

Agritum wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:My post was meant to be humorous. :p

You sounded like one of those parody SJWs, in retrospect.

Ack, that wasn't what I was trying for.
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Postby Agritum » Tue Oct 28, 2014 11:42 pm

http://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comm ... im/chiyqbl

This is a very good r/badhistory post on topic, if anyone is interested.

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Postby Ah-merika » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:33 am

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Ah-merika wrote:Soo umm, anyone got any good ideas on how I should start my rp? Im at a loss. My help request is on the previous page from this one if that helps any.

Well after taking a look, I see that you definitely need to do some more worldbuilding. I recommend taking a look here for some guidance on that front.


Well I checked that out and theres not much its saying there that I havent allready done. I allready set down a paragraph and a half of a prolog indicating the situation the player would find themselves in and the history of how the region got to the way it was and a couple mentions of things to watch out for. Plus I have a more detailed ooc description explaining the situation and various creatures and situations to watch out for. Im not sure how much more world building I can do beyond that, given the IC portion isn't even started yet.

I already have down everything the thread suggests. History, region description, details on small things like animals and other things you might encounter... Not sure what else to put in without going overboard into the tiny details which it suggests not to do.
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Postby Indo-pasif archipelago » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:30 am

Alleniana wrote:
Kedri wrote:
It sounds like a cool idea, but I am not a steampunk person. Nothing against steampunk, I think it is a cool concept, I just can take so much before I am tired of it.

I don't think we should go much further than steampunk, myself, before Crusader aesthetic is unretrievable, so perhaps high-fantasy medieval?

Agreed with this, I would like to play one.
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Postby Indo-pasif archipelago » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:33 am

Alleniana wrote:
Kedri wrote:
It sounds like a cool idea, but I am not a steampunk person. Nothing against steampunk, I think it is a cool concept, I just can take so much before I am tired of it.

I don't think we should go much further than steampunk, myself, before Crusader aesthetic is unretrievable, so perhaps high-fantasy medieval?

Agreed on this.
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Postby Alleniana » Wed Oct 29, 2014 4:49 am

Agritum wrote:http://www.reddit.com/r/badhistory/comments/25nml0/the_crusades_only_came_about_after_muslim/chiyqbl

This is a very good r/badhistory post on topic, if anyone is interested.

I was going to read it, then I decided to sleep. :P
Though I like the suggestion that the crusades might have been somewhat like an institution.

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Postby Asterdan » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:04 am

RP INTEREST AND FEEDBACK REQUEST
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RP's Overarching Concept: Protecting the World, it's a crossover between Power Rangers and Pokemon
Genre/s: Action/Adventure
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Detailed Description: Somewhere near the end of Pokemon Red and Blue, Jesse, James and Meowth of Team Rocket were sent into another world by Arceus, the God of the Pokemon, as punishment for their deeds. Jesse and James were shocked to see Meowth with an even more human appearance. Unknown to Arceus, the rift had been left open, and Team Rocket managed to link the two worlds. They informed Giovanni, and he sent troops to help the trio, putting them in charge. They began to bring Pokemon from their home world into this world, where they gained power, and sent them to wreak havoc.

Meanwhile, Professor Oak, sporting five Pokedex's, stumbled upon the rift. Surprised to see Pokemon here, especially considering how human-like they were, he decided that more power would be needed to fight them. He quickly began working on the each Pokedex he had, and eventually created the PokeMorphers, which could grant humans the abilities of Pokemon. Oak went to get Ash, Misty, Brock and a few others, but realized they were busy in their own world fighting other Teams.

He knew that in order to defeat Team Rocket, he would have to recruit five warriors from this world, so he hosted a Pokemon tournament, after he learned that it was a video game here. The top five players were recruited and given the PokeMorphers, the powers of a single Pokemon, and the strength to fight off Team Rocket.

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Postby Ayreonia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:36 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I think that might have been a bit humorous.

Am I the only one in this thread whose name doesn't fucking start with "A"?
Jesus.

Uncanny.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 9:48 am

The Tiger Kingdom wrote:
Alleniana wrote:I think that might have been a bit humorous.

Am I the only one in this thread whose name doesn't fucking start with "A"?
Jesus.

Yes.
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Postby Enfaru » Wed Oct 29, 2014 1:34 pm

I'm interested in learning how to brush up my RP skills, where do I pester for advice? There used to be a training thing...not sure if that's still going on as I can't find it >.>;;.
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Postby Abserdia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:00 pm

Enfaru wrote:I'm interested in learning how to brush up my RP skills, where do I pester for advice? There used to be a training thing...not sure if that's still going on as I can't find it >.>;;.

Go to International Incidents for that.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Wed Oct 29, 2014 2:13 pm

Alleniana wrote:
Kedri wrote:
It sounds like a cool idea, but I am not a steampunk person. Nothing against steampunk, I think it is a cool concept, I just can take so much before I am tired of it.

I don't think we should go much further than steampunk, myself, before Crusader aesthetic is unretrievable, so perhaps high-fantasy medieval?

Why not both?
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Alleniana wrote:I think that might have been a bit humorous.

Am I the only one in this thread whose name doesn't fucking start with "A"?
Jesus.

Cough cough, I said with a posed look.
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Postby Ravenflight » Thu Oct 30, 2014 4:03 am

any big rps going on?
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