Traveller's Cafe 3: Brainstorming, discussion, tea, advice

[Shadowwell]

That is kind of how Mellow-Brook academy was, it had powered individuals, but also normal humans, unless you were meaning an rp that teaches everyone the same, and the pweors are (un)known?

I think Harb meant supernatural creatures as well as humans, because they said non-humans. A human with powers is still a human.

It depends really, as the concept varies, some of those with powers are just humans with extraordinary abilities, but others make it so that the 'humans' with powers are changed, often by alien and or the like while others still have mutated humans, that are considered separate, from normal humanity.

It also is easier jsut to refer to those without powers as Human, or similar terms, rather than calling them unpowered or other terms that signify they have no supernatural/superhuman abilities.

I mean a situation where the powers are known but the school isn't designed to teach the utilization of those powers. Likely because such is considered a matter for parents or guardians to teach. The term Normie is among students the more common word used to describe what can be called Humans. It's a bit like the difference between calling someone African American or Negro with Human being seen as the more 'speciest' term to use though it's the more scientific.

Heh, Normie was the term i used in Mellow-Brook for normal humans, but i get what you are saying, but are these beings/creatures/etc, known of by the school or just present?

Like does everyone know that these creatures exist and such and they go to the school like normal and such and learn the same hings?

[Harbertia]

I mean a situation where the powers are known but the school isn't designed to teach the utilization of those powers. Likely because such is considered a matter for parents or guardians to teach. The term Normie is among students the more common word used to describe what can be called Humans. It's a bit like the difference between calling someone African American or Negro with Human being seen as the more 'speciest' term to use though it's the more scientific.

Heh, Normie was the term i used in Mellow-Brook for normal humans, but i get what you are saying, but are these beings/creatures/etc, known of by the school or just present?

Like does everyone know that these creatures exist and such and they go to the school like normal and such and learn the same hings?

Yes- the majority of academy RPs I've been in try to make a big deal about the different beings attending- your here to learn how to use your powers, your here so you don't become a menace to society, your here to be trained in preparation for enrollment in a government taskforce, your here because your not allowed in normal schools and must learn to blind in and refrain from your uniqueness.

Stuff like that seems rather common, so I'd like a change from that where the beings are publicly known and attending a normal school.

[Shadowwell]

Heh, Normie was the term i used in Mellow-Brook for normal humans, but i get what you are saying, but are these beings/creatures/etc, known of by the school or just present?

Like does everyone know that these creatures exist and such and they go to the school like normal and such and learn the same hings?

Yes- the majority of academy RPs I've been in try to make a big deal about the different beings attending- your here to learn how to use your powers, your here so you don't become a menace to society, your here to be trained in preparation for enrollment in a government taskforce, your here because your not allowed in normal schools and must learn to blind in and refrain from your uniqueness.

Stuff like that seems rather common, so I'd like a change from that where the beings are publicly known and attending a normal school.

My first attempt at an Academy rp was like that, Thelrose academy, though it had humans attending a monster school rather than monsters or the like attending a human school. Never got that up, it was based off a book, Yokai Academy, and an Light Novel/Anime/Manga, Rosario Plus Vampire, which i had been reading at the time.

[Harbertia]

Yes- the majority of academy RPs I've been in try to make a big deal about the different beings attending- your here to learn how to use your powers, your here so you don't become a menace to society, your here to be trained in preparation for enrollment in a government taskforce, your here because your not allowed in normal schools and must learn to blind in and refrain from your uniqueness.

Stuff like that seems rather common, so I'd like a change from that where the beings are publicly known and attending a normal school.

My first attempt at an Academy rp was like that, Thelrose academy, though it had humans attending a monster school rather than monsters or the like attending a human school. Never got that up, it was based off a book, Yokai Academy, and an Light Novel/Anime/Manga, Rosario Plus Vampire, which i had been reading at the time.

Manga/Anime has also inspired my desire for this type of RP. I believe it has potential, with enough effort it can slide into play nicely. It'll take some world building to explain the situation to the players via the school it's self. I don't see any point giving too much detail to start the character off- history and related subjects would be rather boring if one is given everything at the start.

[Harbertia]

I forgot about this math;

-Facts-
- Vampire bats can only survive two days with out feeding.
- The vampire bat has to consume half it's weight in blood (40 gram bat = 20 grams of blood)
- The Vampire bat survives entirely from blood consumption.

-Rethoughts-
- The human body contains 4.7 to 5.5 liters of blood.
- The average person wieghts 54 to 64 kilos
- Averaging both averages out to 5.3 liters and 59 kilos means that the (considering that a liter of water weights 1.0000028 kilograms) means that a vampire, if based on the half weight formula would have to feed on about 29.5 kilos of blood (the body content of 5.9 (6) persons) with in a two day period to survive.

[The Tiger Kingdom]

I forgot about this math;

-Facts-
- Vampire bats can only survive two days with out feeding.
- The vampire bat has to consume half it's weight in blood (40 gram bat = 20 grams of blood)
- The Vampire bat survives entirely from blood consumption.

-Rethoughts-
- The human body contains 4.7 to 5.5 liters of blood.
- The average person wieghts 54 to 64 kilos
- Averaging both averages out to 5.3 liters and 59 kilos means that the (considering that a liter of water weights 1.0000028 kilograms) means that a vampire, if based on the half weight formula would have to feed on about 29.5 kilos of blood (the body content of 5.9 (6) persons) with in a two day period to survive.

...I think you just proved that all vampires are actually bats.

[Harbertia]

I forgot about this math;

-Facts-
- Vampire bats can only survive two days with out feeding.
- The vampire bat has to consume half it's weight in blood (40 gram bat = 20 grams of blood)
- The Vampire bat survives entirely from blood consumption.

-Rethoughts-
- The human body contains 4.7 to 5.5 liters of blood.
- The average person wieghts 54 to 64 kilos
- Averaging both averages out to 5.3 liters and 59 kilos means that the (considering that a liter of water weights 1.0000028 kilograms) means that a vampire, if based on the half weight formula would have to feed on about 29.5 kilos of blood (the body content of 5.9 (6) persons) with in a two day period to survive.

...I think you just proved that all vampires are actually bats.

I could use a mosquito or leech, but the Vampire Bat is mammal and thus closest to a Human for the purpose of determining how much blood a Vampire would have to consume to support it's body. I'm sure their is better ways, but I simply don't know the human nutritional intake or how to translate that into a blood based diet.

[The Manticoran Empire]

I forgot about this math;

-Facts-
- Vampire bats can only survive two days with out feeding.
- The vampire bat has to consume half it's weight in blood (40 gram bat = 20 grams of blood)
- The Vampire bat survives entirely from blood consumption.

-Rethoughts-
- The human body contains 4.7 to 5.5 liters of blood.
- The average person wieghts 54 to 64 kilos
- Averaging both averages out to 5.3 liters and 59 kilos means that the (considering that a liter of water weights 1.0000028 kilograms) means that a vampire, if based on the half weight formula would have to feed on about 29.5 kilos of blood (the body content of 5.9 (6) persons) with in a two day period to survive.

Damn. That would require a LOT of people farming.

[Harbertia]

I forgot about this math;

-Facts-
- Vampire bats can only survive two days with out feeding.
- The vampire bat has to consume half it's weight in blood (40 gram bat = 20 grams of blood)
- The Vampire bat survives entirely from blood consumption.

-Rethoughts-
- The human body contains 4.7 to 5.5 liters of blood.
- The average person wieghts 54 to 64 kilos
- Averaging both averages out to 5.3 liters and 59 kilos means that the (considering that a liter of water weights 1.0000028 kilograms) means that a vampire, if based on the half weight formula would have to feed on about 29.5 kilos of blood (the body content of 5.9 (6) persons) with in a two day period to survive.

Damn. That would require a LOT of people farming.

Yep- though if a Vampire can feed on none human blood- hmm... is their a market for bloodless beef? I know people like bloody steak. -- What I mean is that if a Vampire doesn't need human blood one can substitute.

Otherwise this calculation expresses the danger a Vampire population posses.

[The Manticoran Empire]

This is the world population today. As of 17:05, the worlds population is 7,525,841,100. If a vampire requires the blood of three humans per day to survive, then the current population can support 6,872,914 vampires for a whole year. Additionally, the population grows by about 250,000 people each day, which adds up rather quickly.

[Talchyon]

Damn. That would require a LOT of people farming.

Yep- though if a Vampire can feed on none human blood- hmm... is their a market for bloodless beef? I know people like bloody steak. -- What I mean is that if a Vampire doesn't need human blood one can substitute.

Otherwise this calculation expresses the danger a Vampire population posses.

Not to mention the extra costs for premiums for life insurance.

[Harbertia]

Yep- though if a Vampire can feed on none human blood- hmm... is their a market for bloodless beef? I know people like bloody steak. -- What I mean is that if a Vampire doesn't need human blood one can substitute.

Otherwise this calculation expresses the danger a Vampire population posses.

Not to mention the extra costs for premiums for life insurance.

This is the world population today. As of 17:05, the worlds population is 7,525,841,100. If a vampire requires the blood of three humans per day to survive, then the current population can support 6,872,914 vampires for a whole year. Additionally, the population grows by about 250,000 people each day, which adds up rather quickly.

Taking into consideration that the blood amount used in the calcuations for that found in the human body are of adults- we'd have to wait for each of those new persons to mature- I'm not ready for that kind of calculation- the one to answer the question of what kind of breeding program would have to be underway to support a population of Vampires, and how large could that population be while remaining sustainable?

[Harbertia]

Alterramonst

*Concepts Ahead*

Centaur
Original Range: the Balkans
Myths: All male
History: Long time nomads the Centaurs where among those recruited by the Huns during their raid on Europe, and many moved with them back into Asia where they eventually found their way to Mongolia. Those populations who remained became notable knights during the middle ages, and latter Calvary. Centaur Divisions are among some of the few Calvary divisions still in use in modern warfare. They have not had a nation of their own since ancient times and where some of the first none humans to integrate into Human cultures and thus have a relatively positive relationship with mankind though 'victim' to breeding programs in some states through out history. In Mongolia, at least, this was more a matter of tradition then imposed. As the world comes closer together in the modern age these programs have diminished though in places like Mongolia they endure as tradition despite communist suppression- like most tribal elements in Mongolia the government has been unsuccessful in combating the practice which the majority of the Centuar population is eager to take part in- seeing it as ensuring the integrity of their clan.

Huli Kitsune
Original Range: China and Japan
Myths: Shapeshifting, Life Draining, invisibility powers

Naga
Original Range: India, China, and Indo-China
Myths: Shapeshifting
History: Core populations where made colonies of the British and French Empires during the Age of Sail. This brought to them European concepts though traditional culture is rooted in Hinduism and to an extent Buddhism. Naga are still revered in parts of India.

Werewolves
Original Range: the Balkans, Central Europe, Scandinavia, and France.
Myths: Shapeshifting
History: Viking Berserkers

Vampire (Name will change, possibly)
Original Range: the Balkans (using real world names as I'll use a real world map but history will be different in this world and thus the names may change)

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I still have to think a bit- about this world. Some way to make it familiar and fantastic at the same time with out magic or the supernatural.

[Shadowwell]

Why is the vampire range in mesopatamia?

[Harbertia]

Why is the vampire range in mesopatamia?

I had heard of Mesopotamian Vampires- but - turns out they are are different.

[Shadowwell]

Though ancient mesopatamia did have blood associated beings the first vampires, to my knowledge were greek, and there were several types.

[Harbertia]

Though ancient mesopatamia did have blood associated beings the first vampires, to my knowledge were greek, and there were several types.

The earliest to my knowledge in Geece was the corpse of a werewolf animated by the wolf spirit that once possess the now undead person.

[The Land of Golden Blobfish]

Has anybody here read unOrdinary? Been thinking it might be a good idea for an academy RP.

[Eclixia]

Damn. That would require a LOT of people farming.

Yep- though if a Vampire can feed on none human blood- hmm... is their a market for bloodless beef? I know people like bloody steak. -- What I mean is that if a Vampire doesn't need human blood one can substitute.

Otherwise this calculation expresses the danger a Vampire population posses.

This depends on whether I've been paying attention to the conversation or not, but with so much blood needed for vampires every day, I think the human race would have a serious problem with that and would be far too paranoid. I don't think any significant number of vampires can sustain themselves entirely off human blood because their prey will be far too occupied looking out for them. Humans won't let any stranger into their home until they have seen them in the mirror, and will always carry around garlic, a stake and a cross. All public areas will have armed vampire hunters ready to gun down any attempt.

[Nuridia]

I have an idea, but it's not really the same as Harb's I think. It's the human and nonhuman academy just like they said, but unlike their idea this one would be more focused on the nonhumans and the abnormal humans. Plus this one would be like a reform school, where all the "bad kids" get sent because they did some crazy shit.

[Harbertia]

I have an idea, but it's not really the same as Harb's I think. It's the human and nonhuman academy just like they said, but unlike their idea this one would be more focused on the nonhumans and the abnormal humans. Plus this one would be like a reform school, where all the "bad kids" get sent because they did some crazy shit.

There is a Vampire character I've been wanting to revisit. I am interested in having her in your RP (a version of her modified for the setting of course) should it get started.

[Nuridia]

I have an idea, but it's not really the same as Harb's I think. It's the human and nonhuman academy just like they said, but unlike their idea this one would be more focused on the nonhumans and the abnormal humans. Plus this one would be like a reform school, where all the "bad kids" get sent because they did some crazy shit.

There is a Vampire character I've been wanting to revisit. I am interested in having her in your RP (a version of her modified for the setting of course) should it get started.

Okay, when I finish the RP I'll let you know. I'll have to make some lore for other creatures of course, such as elves and even demons.

[Eclixia]

There is a Vampire character I've been wanting to revisit. I am interested in having her in your RP (a version of her modified for the setting of course) should it get started.

Okay, when I finish the RP I'll let you know. I'll have to make some lore for other creatures of course, such as elves and even demons.

I'll have a look and see whether I'll join in. No guarantees, however.

[Pasong Tirad]

Hey where do all these AltHis roleplays get their maps with all the borders and stuff?

[Nuridia]

Hey where do all these AltHis roleplays get their maps with all the borders and stuff?

They usuallly ask other NSers to make them for them. Like Neros is s pretty great mapmaker. I don't know if they still go by Neros or New Neros if they still play but that's one of them.