[P2TM Chat] The Restaurant at the End of the Multiverse

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Odd. That's what I heard at school. Might got mixed up with the fact that, as a non-christian, you don't get votes.

I don't even really remember a Non-Christian running. You'll hear some people (usually conservatives) claiming the opposite candidate is "Non-Christian," like in Obama's case, but that has nothing to do with votes or not.

Kind of speaks for itself. "Non-christian" meaning "someone that shouldn' t be in position X", and the whole oaths by god and all that (which is still here in the Netherlands, too, though not compulsory).

[Tiltjuice]

Odd. That's what I heard at school. Might got mixed up with the fact that, as a non-christian, you don't get votes.

I personally vote based on the persons policies, religion matters not. If your policies line up with what I believe and value, you get my vote.

Which is religiously based, so claiming a distinction is pointless.

[The Grey Wolf]

I don't even really remember a Non-Christian running. You'll hear some people (usually conservatives) claiming the opposite candidate is "Non-Christian," like in Obama's case, but that has nothing to do with votes or not.

Kind of speaks for itself. "Non-christian" meaning "someone that shouldn' t be in position X", and the whole oaths by god and all that (which is still here in the Netherlands, too, though not compulsory).

Since most presidents have been Christian (or deist.) they've never had any objections. If a Non-Christian became president, I'm certain they would be able to swear an oath on their own holy book, like a Non-Christian senator (I recall something like that.)

Either case, it's simply tradition. Nothing theocratic.

[Urran]

@Wolfie yeah that.

And I found another web comic about how ignorant we are about geography. On with my story about the Swede then:

Whenever I am forced to sit next to you for a long period of time, I'll talk to you. So blah blah blah found out he was from Sweden and all that and he proceeds to tell me that we need to reform our educational system and teach more about European geography because he claimed some American couldn't tell the difference between Sweden and Switzerland.

I get tired of him going on and decide to ask him what countries lie in South America. "Um, American colonies and territories?" What? I should have called my Brazilian friend and told her XD

[Urran]

Which is religiously based, so claiming a distinction is pointless.

Hello to you too Tilt.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Well, in the US they should be taught more about Europe, and the rest of the world in general.

[Tiltjuice]

Which is religiously based, so claiming a distinction is pointless.

Hello to you too Tilt.

Am I wrong?

[Morlodania]

I sort of WANT to RP more...
But since I know when I'm leaving...
And it's so close...
I'll just get cut off.

[Urran]

Well, in the US they should be taught more about Europe, and the rest of the world in general.

America is enormous. We have our own geography to worry about. Not saying that you are wrong, just that America is bigger and we have more to learn about our own land mass that European students do about their countries. Geography wise anyway.

Here in Singapore one of my British classmates asked me why I couldn't just drive to New York when I explained I had only been there once. He'd been to France several times after all. The difference being, New York is 900 miles from where I live. One does not simply drive that distance.



@tilt. Somewhat. My beliefs are chafing as I get more experience and get out from under my parents

[Hurdegaryp]

Which is religiously based, so claiming a distinction is pointless.

Hello to you too Tilt.

Tiltjuice is right, you know.

[Urran]

Hello to you too Tilt.

Tiltjuice is right, you know.

And he usually is. However, we haven't exactly spoken much in the past few months so there are...changes that he is currently unaware of.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Well, in the US they should be taught more about Europe, and the rest of the world in general.

America is enormous. We have our own geography to worry about. Not saying that you are wrong, just that America is bigger and we have more to learn about our own land mass that European students do about their countries. Geography wise anyway.

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The US has a really small amount of history in comparison with Europe.

[Urran]

America is enormous. We have our own geography to worry about. Not saying that you are wrong, just that America is bigger and we have more to learn about our own land mass that European students do about their countries. Geography wise anyway.

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The US has a really small amount of history in comparison with Europe.

That's why I said Geography, not history. They are often grouped together, but are different.

But I do wholeheartedly agree with you. World geography is only required for one year in high school but you have to take three other US history and geography courses. Maybe make them even, two and two? I don't know.

[Urran]

I just love geography, that's all i know.

[The Grey Wolf]

America is enormous. We have our own geography to worry about. Not saying that you are wrong, just that America is bigger and we have more to learn about our own land mass that European students do about their countries. Geography wise anyway.

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The US has a really small amount of history in comparison with Europe.

I remember having a history book on the middle ages for school.

We should be learning more about Europe simply because that's where the majority of us originated from.

[Urran]

Yeah, the only thing I remember about the Dutch is where a few of their colonies were located, same with Spain and Portugal.

I remember a lot of British and French history because it's intertwined with ours. In other words, you're only taught what's relevant to North America. I highly doubt European schools are taught every detail of Canada, Mexico, and US history like we are.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Yeah, the only thing I remember about the Dutch is where a few of their colonies were located, same with Spain and Portugal.

I remember a lot of British and French history because it's intertwined with ours. In other words, you're only taught what's relevant to North America. I highly doubt European schools are taught every detail of Canada, Mexico, and US history like we are.

Part of my exam in two years is about the US. We recently learned about the forming of states, which included the US, but also France and the Netherlands.

[Urran]

Yeah, the only thing I remember about the Dutch is where a few of their colonies were located, same with Spain and Portugal.

I remember a lot of British and French history because it's intertwined with ours. In other words, you're only taught what's relevant to North America. I highly doubt European schools are taught every detail of Canada, Mexico, and US history like we are.

Part of my exam in two years is about the US. We recently learned about the forming of states, which included the US, but also France and the Netherlands.

Every detail? We learned about Mexican settlement, Canadian independence, Aztec culture, all that stuff. Europeans learn mostly about Europe (America is a big influence on the world) and American about North America

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Part of my exam in two years is about the US. We recently learned about the forming of states, which included the US, but also France and the Netherlands.

Every detail? We learned about Mexican settlement, Canadian independence, Aztec culture, all that stuff. Europeans learn mostly about Europe (America is a big influence on the world) and American about North America

No, 'cause we had to talk about a lot of other things, too!

[Urran]

Exactly.

The bottom line is, we are taught what is relevant to our respective regions. Australia was barely mentioned at all in my US history books but was covered in detail in World History. We just require more American history than anything else and World History is thrown to the side.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

I mainly learn about Europe, and the colonies. We learned a lot about China last year, though.

[Urran]

I mainly learn about Europe, and the colonies. We learned a lot about China last year, though.

Exactly, European history is relevant to Europe. I'd appreciate more world geography but most Americans tend to view it like you view others expecting you to speak their language. "We don't live there, it has no affect on us." but that's the same attitudes that led to both world wars.

[Grenartia]

What bothers me is that, in order to become President and the like in the US, you have to be a christian. Separation of state and church, anyone..?

Clinton was not. I'm not sure what Obama is. I really hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out. I just know that our founders were Christian and that we claim to be a "Christian Nation." Or are we? What about the Middle East? The leaders of most countries there have to be Muslim, why? Because they are a Muslim nation. Besides, it's all about who the people elect here. God sets up the worlds leaders and takes them down, that's what I believe. But you might believe something different, can't judge you for that.

We're a melting pot of ideas, races and religions. I'm proud of my country and what it stands for, just not so much the idiots that live here.

And Europe has its idiots and ignorant fools as well. I should tell you about the Swede that I met in Moscow...

Obama's a member of the United Church of Christ. One of the better denominations, IMO.

[Nightkill the Emperor]

It's been fairly civilised so far and I approve, but just keep in mind not to get anywhere bad or touchy with this. Politics and religion can cause that.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

It's been fairly civilised so far and I approve, but just keep in mind not to get anywhere bad or touchy with this. Politics and religion can cause that.

We're P2TM, not General.