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Divair
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Postby Divair » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:04 am

Luziyca wrote:
Arglorand wrote:More people voted in Sevastopol in favor of being annexed than actually exist.

It's fucking rigged.

Show me the proof, and I'll show you the proof that it isn't.

Divair wrote:Duh.

How did you know?

It's fairly obvious it would be rigged. It's Russia, after all.
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Postby Horusland » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:04 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Arglorand wrote:More people voted in Sevastopol in favor of being annexed than actually exist.

It's fucking rigged.

You're kidding, right?
IT IS RIGGED!!!

you contradicted yourself

Divair wrote:It's fairly obvious it would be rigged. It's Russia, after all.

that's what i said :lol:
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:05 am

Divair wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Show me the proof, and I'll show you the proof that it isn't.


How did you know?

It's fairly obvious it would be rigged. It's Russia, after all.

The last time Russia had a genuinely fair election was 1918, and said election was then promptly nulled by a forced dismantling of the Constituent Assembly.
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Postby Person012345 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:08 am

Are some of you people actually claiming that any referendum that gets a 96.7% victory is legitimate? And are you claiming this when it's a vote on whether to join russia or ukraine in a region where 25% of the population are Ukranian?

It's a farce.
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Sebtopiaris
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:10 am

Arglorand wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:You're kidding, right?
IT IS RIGGED!!!

assuming you have a Ukrainian translator on hand, I can provide a source to show that I, in fact, am not kidding.

You're Ukrainian?

Luziyca wrote:
R the Zombie wrote:
Let's see... the Russian army is there in Crimea illegally, violating the sovereignty of Ukraine while simultaneously and unsurprisingly, there suddenly came a motion to vote to separate from Ukraine and become part of Russia. Doesn't sound rigged at all.

Well, many support the motion and as a true Canuck, I respect the right of self-determination.

Do you respect bacon, maple syrup and polar bears too?
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:10 am

Person012345 wrote:Are some of you people actually claiming that any referendum that gets a 96.7% victory is legitimate? And are you claiming this when it's a vote on whether to join russia or ukraine in a region where 25% of the population are Ukranian?

It's a farce.

It really fucking is. I find it strange that's questioned at all.
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Postby Horusland » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:11 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Arglorand wrote:assuming you have a Ukrainian translator on hand, I can provide a source to show that I, in fact, am not kidding.

You're Ukrainian?

read sigs, man, read sigs
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:11 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Arglorand wrote:assuming you have a Ukrainian translator on hand, I can provide a source to show that I, in fact, am not kidding.

You're Ukrainian?

No. But I have developed something of a working understanding of the language.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
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Postby Baghanathria » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:11 am

Arglorand wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Are some of you people actually claiming that any referendum that gets a 96.7% victory is legitimate? And are you claiming this when it's a vote on whether to join russia or ukraine in a region where 25% of the population are Ukranian?

It's a farce.

It really fucking is. I find it strange that's questioned at all.


Wow. Things are getting really carnivalesque here.

PS.: I think I like that word. Carnivalesque. Hm.
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R the Zombie
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Postby R the Zombie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:11 am

It's chilly. I need to snuggle.
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Gallade wrote:
R the Zombie wrote:I don't eat ponies. I'm not interested in crapping rainbows all night.

Either live up to negative stereotypes or GTFO, R!

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Remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact.

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Hurdegaryp wrote:Guess the potatoes are going to be expensive this season.

Ach, that will drive up the price of Irish beef here when we have to make up for the loss.

Thanks R, you've singlehandedly destroyed the EU.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:14 am

HorusLand wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:You're Ukrainian?

read sigs, man, read sigs

Woops.

R the Zombie wrote:It's chilly. I need to snuggle.

*invites to subtropical Brisbane*
Psst. Zombie.
I'll let you immigrate. Don't tell Abbot!
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R the Zombie
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Postby R the Zombie » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:16 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
HorusLand wrote:read sigs, man, read sigs

Woops.

R the Zombie wrote:It's chilly. I need to snuggle.

*invites to subtropical Brisbane*
Psst. Zombie.
I'll let you immigrate. Don't tell Abbot!


Tony Abbott is a c**t
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Gallade wrote:
R the Zombie wrote:I don't eat ponies. I'm not interested in crapping rainbows all night.

Either live up to negative stereotypes or GTFO, R!

Benshir wrote:
Cadonica wrote:Brazilian Ji Jitsu

Remember, it's only gay if you make eye contact.

Gallade wrote:
Hurdegaryp wrote:Guess the potatoes are going to be expensive this season.

Ach, that will drive up the price of Irish beef here when we have to make up for the loss.

Thanks R, you've singlehandedly destroyed the EU.
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:18 am

Arglorand wrote:
Divair wrote:It's fairly obvious it would be rigged. It's Russia, after all.

The last time Russia had a genuinely fair election was 1918, and said election was then promptly nulled by a forced dismantling of the Constituent Assembly.

No, it was in 2012.

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Luziyca wrote:
Well, many support the motion and as a true Canuck, I respect the right of self-determination.

Do you respect bacon, maple syrup and polar bears too?

Yes.

Arglorand wrote:
Person012345 wrote:Are some of you people actually claiming that any referendum that gets a 96.7% victory is legitimate? And are you claiming this when it's a vote on whether to join russia or ukraine in a region where 25% of the population are Ukranian?

It's a farce.

It really fucking is. I find it strange that's questioned at all.

Some boycotted...
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:20 am

Luziyca wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The last time Russia had a genuinely fair election was 1918, and said election was then promptly nulled by a forced dismantling of the Constituent Assembly.

No, it was in 2012.

Sebtopiaris wrote:Do you respect bacon, maple syrup and polar bears too?

Yes.

Arglorand wrote:It really fucking is. I find it strange that's questioned at all.

Some boycotted...

"some"

The ethnic Russian population is 58%. You mean to tell me a majority of the Ukrainians and Tatars voted for annexation.

Also, yeaaaaaah, 2012. Because 102% turnouts in some districts is fairness and democracy.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:20 am

R the Zombie wrote:
Sebtopiaris wrote:Woops.


*invites to subtropical Brisbane*
Psst. Zombie.
I'll let you immigrate. Don't tell Abbot!


Tony Abbott is a c**t

I wanna beat the shit out of that asshole before he ruins our beautiful nation. He's one of the reasons why a socialist revolution in Australia looks good to me right now.

Luziyca wrote:
Arglorand wrote:
Yes.

Yay!
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Person012345
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Postby Person012345 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:22 am

Luziyca wrote:
Arglorand wrote:It really fucking is. I find it strange that's questioned at all.

Some boycotted...

Get 100 people in a room and get 95 of them to agree on anything.

You'll probably have to resort to asking whether raping children is bad.

It's a ludicrously high number especially if they're claiming 83% turnout.
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Postby Person012345 » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:26 am

By the way, 25% of the population of Crimea is Ukranian. Lets say every single non-ukranian citizen turned out to vote. That still leaves 8% of the voters as ukranians which is double the number of claimed dissenting opinions.
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:26 am

Luziyca wrote:
Arglorand wrote:More people voted in Sevastopol in favor of being annexed than actually exist.

It's fucking rigged.

Show me the proof, and I'll show you the proof that it isn't.

Divair wrote:Duh.

How did you know?

and you still haven't shown anything.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Arglorand
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:28 am

Person012345 wrote:By the way, 25% of the population of Crimea is Ukranian. Lets say every single non-ukranian citizen turned out to vote. That still leaves 8% of the voters as ukranians which is double the number of claimed dissenting opinions.

I am virtually sure that 99% of the Tatars didn't turn up to vote and the one percent that did did so to write Glory to Ukraine on their ballots.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Sebtopiaris » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:28 am

Person012345 wrote:By the way, 25% of the population of Crimea is Ukranian. Lets say every single non-ukranian citizen turned out to vote. That still leaves 8% of the voters as ukranians which is double the number of claimed dissenting opinions.

Plus, you've got Russians in Crimea who like being in Ukraine.
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:29 am

Sebtopiaris wrote:
Person012345 wrote:By the way, 25% of the population of Crimea is Ukranian. Lets say every single non-ukranian citizen turned out to vote. That still leaves 8% of the voters as ukranians which is double the number of claimed dissenting opinions.

Plus, you've got Russians in Crimea who like being in Ukraine.

Every single one who has a job and would prefer to keep receiving Ukrainian tourists, really.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
I am a: Social Democrat | Bright green | Republican | Intersectional feminist | Civic nationalist | Multiculturalist
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Postby Starvation Is Fun » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:30 am

Am I in TET or the Ukraine thread :blink:
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Postby Arglorand » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 am

Starvation Is Fun wrote:Am I in TET or the Ukraine thread :blink:

Every thread is Ukraine now.

The bright side is people will no longer think that's a city in Russia.
Kosovo is Morrowind. N'wah.
Impeach Dagoth Ur, legalise Daedra worship, the Empire is theft. Nerevarine 3E 427.
Pros: Dunmeri independence, abolition of the Empire, the Daedra, Morag Tong, House Redoran, Ashlander interests, abolitionism, Dissident Priests, canonisation of St. Jiub the Cliff Racer Slayer.
Cons: Imperials, the Empire, the False Tribunal, Dagoth Ur, House Hlaalu, Imperials, the Eight Divines, "Talos", "Nords", Imperial unionism, Imperials.
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Postby Horusland » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:31 am

Arglorand wrote:
Person012345 wrote:By the way, 25% of the population of Crimea is Ukranian. Lets say every single non-ukranian citizen turned out to vote. That still leaves 8% of the voters as ukranians which is double the number of claimed dissenting opinions.

I am virtually sure that 99% of the Tatars didn't turn up to vote and the one percent that did did so to write Glory to Ukraine on their ballots.

not to mention that the ballots said 'russia now or russia later'
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Mon Mar 17, 2014 6:32 am

Starvation Is Fun wrote:Am I in TET or the Ukraine thread :blink:

Yes.
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