TET: Such Revival. Much Thread. So about time. Wow.

[Farnhamia]

Does this mean that if I, hypothetically speaking, was barely passing a Spanish class I would be able to, again barely, pass a Portuguese class? Or have I completely missed the target?

Missed the target.

Although it's true that Spanish and Portuguese are similar in some aspects, they differ in many other things. A Spanish speaker won't necessarily understand Portuguese, just like a Portuguese speaker won't necessarily understand Spanish.

French might serve you better with Portuguese than a knowledge of Spanish.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Os Asturianes e los galegos som primos.

Me gustaria aprender Asturiano

You may like it.

http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idioma_ast ... C3.ADstica

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Missed the target.

Although it's true that Spanish and Portuguese are similar in some aspects, they differ in many other things. A Spanish speaker won't necessarily understand Portuguese, just like a Portuguese speaker won't necessarily understand Spanish.

French might serve you better with Portuguese than a knowledge of Spanish.

French helps a lot when learning Catalan. A lot.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's because Portuguese belongs to the family of Romance languages. It follows that it has a similar syntax structure and grammar rules like the others.

Actually West Iberian (Galician, Portuguese, Uruguayan portunhol, Asturian, Leonese, Mirandese, Extremaduran, Cantabrian, Spanish and Judaeo-Spanish) is arguably a single language, and we all speak co-dialects.

I would have thought that French and the other Romance languages, from my experience, are closely related and follow a similar structure though.

Then again it could have just been my exposure to them rather than actual linguistics.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

French might serve you better with Portuguese than a knowledge of Spanish.

It depends on what you are purporting.

[Liberonscien]

Does this mean that if I, hypothetically speaking, was barely passing a Spanish class I would be able to, again barely, pass a Portuguese class? Or have I completely missed the target?

Missed the target.

Although it's true that Spanish and Portuguese are similar in some aspects, they differ in many other things. A Spanish speaker won't necessarily understand Portuguese, just like a Portuguese speaker won't necessarily understand Spanish.

I would completely fail? Wonderful. I thought I found a shortcut. When am I going to remember there are no shortcuts? *shakes head*

[Liberonscien]

Still don't really get it. Seems to have same kind of syntax. I mean a at the end for feminine for example.

http://www.reginacoeli.com/blog/the-dif ... guese.html <--- that may help.

I understand now. Thank you.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Actually West Iberian (Galician, Portuguese, Uruguayan portunhol, Asturian, Leonese, Mirandese, Extremaduran, Cantabrian, Spanish and Judaeo-Spanish) is arguably a single language, and we all speak co-dialects.

I would have thought that French and the other Romance languages, from my experience, are closely related and follow a similar structure though.

Then again it could have just been my exposure to them rather than actual linguistics.

There are similarities. A Spanish speaker may get the gist of things, at times, when listening to other Romance languages, even if he/she has no prior knowledge of said language. However, it doesn't make them capable of expressing themselves in the language.

I can follow Romanian, somewhat, but I am, by no means, proficient in it. I understand Portuguese and Italian, to some extent, however, I can't speak either. I don't have the schooling.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

I would have thought that French and the other Romance languages, from my experience, are closely related and follow a similar structure though.

Then again it could have just been my exposure to them rather than actual linguistics.

My point is that Portuguese is not a related language to Spanish. It is part of [technically speaking] the same language of Spanish.

Missed the target.

Although it's true that Spanish and Portuguese are similar in some aspects, they differ in many other things. A Spanish speaker won't necessarily understand Portuguese, just like a Portuguese speaker won't necessarily understand Spanish.

I would completely fail? Wonderful. I thought I found a shortcut. When am I going to remember there are no shortcuts? *shakes head*

Portuguese is a relevant shortcut to much of Spanish. The reverse though is untrue.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

http://www.reginacoeli.com/blog/the-dif ... guese.html <--- that may help.

I understand now. Thank you.

You're welcome.

[Liberonscien]

I would have thought that French and the other Romance languages, from my experience, are closely related and follow a similar structure though.

Then again it could have just been my exposure to them rather than actual linguistics.

My point is that Portuguese is not a related language to Spanish. It is part of [technically speaking] the same language of Spanish.

I would completely fail? Wonderful. I thought I found a shortcut. When am I going to remember there are no shortcuts? *shakes head*

Portuguese is a relevant shortcut to much of Spanish. The reverse though is untrue.

Oh, well, that makes my goal of knowing lots of languages harder. One of my major goals is acquiring as much information as possible and knowing multiple languages would help, a lot. I thought that I could possibly learn two at once. Oh well.

Hmm… it is weird but I'm learning more interesting stuff in TET than I am at school.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I would have thought that French and the other Romance languages, from my experience, are closely related and follow a similar structure though.

Then again it could have just been my exposure to them rather than actual linguistics.

There are similarities. A Spanish speaker may get the gist of things, at times, when listening to other Romance languages, even if he/she has no prior knowledge of said language. However, it doesn't make them capable of expressing themselves in the language.

I can follow Romanian, somewhat, but I am, by no means, proficient in it. I understand Portuguese and Italian, to some extent, however, I can't speak either. I don't have the schooling.

Yea, I have the same experience with the Romance languages myself.

I can read them and understand what it means even if I have never encountered the phrase before; but I cannot speak or express myself proficiently in said language. I can reply proficiently in either Spanish or English but I would not dare to reply in the same language for instance.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/31/Romance-lg-classification-en.png

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

There are similarities. A Spanish speaker may get the gist of things, at times, when listening to other Romance languages, even if he/she has no prior knowledge of said language. However, it doesn't make them capable of expressing themselves in the language.

I can follow Romanian, somewhat, but I am, by no means, proficient in it. I understand Portuguese and Italian, to some extent, however, I can't speak either. I don't have the schooling.

Yea, I have the same experience with the Romance languages myself.

I can read them and understand what it means even if I have never encountered the phrase before; but I cannot speak or express myself proficiently in said language. I can reply proficiently in either Spanish or English but I would not dare to reply in the same language for instance.

Having a Romance language as your native tongue helps.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Oh, well, that makes my goal of knowing lots of languages harder. One of my major goals is acquiring as much information as possible and knowing multiple languages would help, a lot. I thought that I could possibly learn two at once. Oh well.

You can learn Portuguese and Spanish at the same time, I guess.

Though learning Spanish and French at the same time would be more practical, and would make learning Portuguese easy like tasting candy.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea, I have the same experience with the Romance languages myself.

I can read them and understand what it means even if I have never encountered the phrase before; but I cannot speak or express myself proficiently in said language. I can reply proficiently in either Spanish or English but I would not dare to reply in the same language for instance.

Having a Romance language as your native tongue helps.

Indeed

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Having a Romance language as your native tongue helps.

Indeed

I do miss speaking Asturian, tbh. My mother doesn't speak it and I have no one around where I live with whom to speak it. :/

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Oh, well, that makes my goal of knowing lots of languages harder. One of my major goals is acquiring as much information as possible and knowing multiple languages would help, a lot. I thought that I could possibly learn two at once. Oh well.

You can learn Portuguese and Spanish at the same time, I guess.

Though learning Spanish and French at the same time would be more practical, and would make learning Portuguese easy like tasting candy.

I exposed myself to French and studied it two years in high school.

I think it did help in losing my fear of the other Romance languages. It made me more comfortable to try and understand them.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Indeed

I do miss speaking Asturian, tbh. My mother doesn't speak it and I have no one around where I live with whom to speak it. :/

I would personally like to learn it. I have never heard of it before, so if I could speak it it would be great.

Plus, if I do then you and I could talk Asturian just for fun

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I do miss speaking Asturian, tbh. My mother doesn't speak it and I have no one around where I live with whom to speak it. :/

I would personally like to learn it. I have never heard of it before, so if I could speak it it would be great.

Plus, if I do then you and I could talk Asturian just for fun

IIRC, you can take some online classes. If I remember the site addy, I'll send it to you.

In the meantime, here's some spoken Asturian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pxX0lP8qs, with some added of Asturian music. ^_^

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I would personally like to learn it. I have never heard of it before, so if I could speak it it would be great.

Plus, if I do then you and I could talk Asturian just for fun

IIRC, you can take some online classes. If I remember the site addy, I'll send it to you.

In the meantime, here's some spoken Asturian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pxX0lP8qs, with some added of Asturian music. ^_^

I like how it sounds ^_^

It's an interesting language, and it's pretty colorful

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

In the meantime, here's some spoken Asturian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pxX0lP8qs, with some added of Asturian music. ^_^

Sounds like an in-between of Spanish and Galician (well, duh!).

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

IIRC, you can take some online classes. If I remember the site addy, I'll send it to you.

In the meantime, here's some spoken Asturian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pxX0lP8qs, with some added of Asturian music. ^_^

I like how it sounds ^_^

It's an interesting language, and it's pretty colorful

Asturias is Celtic land.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

In the meantime, here's some spoken Asturian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_pxX0lP8qs, with some added of Asturian music. ^_^

Sounds like an in-between of Spanish and Galician (well, duh!).

Sorta, yes.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I like how it sounds ^_^

It's an interesting language, and it's pretty colorful

Asturias is Celtic land.

Well that makes sense