NSG Senate Lobby: Four Scones and Seven Pastries Ago

[A-3]

AUCA-Cfg and A-3 can get lost.

Neither of them ever made a good contribution to this RP, but I personally feel that Glasgia's OOCly moderate one will be ok because it won't cause mayhem at what ever opportunity. Glasgia has been calling for an end to all this violent shit for ages, he's hardly going to become a CTALNH now.

Although, CTALNH will be back. He always is. He's like the Terminator, only a but more pathetic and a bit less badass.

Aw come on, all we were going to do is purchase illegal stuff and resist paying taxes. No bombs involved!

[New Zepuha]

What about me?

I'm Ainin.

*sigh*

I'm not fond of admins creating violent organisations. Simply because they will never have to admit they made an RP mistake.

I admit plenty of my mistakes.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

*sigh*

I'm not fond of admins creating violent organisations. Simply because they will never have to admit they made an RP mistake.

I admit plenty of my mistakes.

I never said they don't, I said they don't have to. And I actually don't recall you ever admitting one after becoming an admin, but I fully admit I have probably missed them.

[Corenea]

Jeezus, how many terrorist organizations must we have? We're like the Middle East of Europe

[Trotskyist Liberation Front]

Jeezus, how many terrorist organizations must we have? We're like the Middle East of Europe

Terrorist?

"The end may justify the means as long as there is something that justifies the end."
- COMRADE TROTSKY

[Unicario]

Jeezus, how many terrorist organizations must we have? We're like the Middle East of Europe

((Merhaba, comrade! *building explodes*))

[New Zepuha]

I admit plenty of my mistakes.

I never said they don't, I said they don't have to. And I actually don't recall you ever admitting one after becoming an admin, but I fully admit I have probably missed them.

I rushed my arrest on Hippo, I remember that one. I haven't done too much since becoming an admin. I make sure to be super careful.

[Britanno]

I thought Ainin's thing was Glasgia, or is it and is Glasgia just fucking with us?

[Glasgia]

For Rp purposes, if Ainin (or not Ainin ) is ok with this, CTALNH's PAFLA never existed. PAFLA did, but it has been largely dormant since the Cold War. Formerly a broad collection of militant Communists, recent Trotskyist and Marxist-Leninist offshoots have divided PAFLA, bringing it crashing down into these two opposed camps.

I thought Ainin's thing was Glasgia, or is it and is Glasgia just fucking with us?

Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. But comrade, surely if property is simply a creation of the bourgeoisie then none truly own anything but rather the bourgeoisie own all.

[Trotskyist Liberation Front]

I thought Ainin's thing was Glasgia, or is it and is Glasgia just fucking with us?

"Learning carries within itself certain dangers."
- COMRADE TROTSKY

[The Nihilistic view]

For Rp purposes, if Ainin (or not Ainin ) is ok with this, CTALNH's PAFLA never existed. PAFLA did, but it has been largely dormant since the Cold War. Formerly a broad collection of militant Communists, recent Trotskyist and Marxist-Leninist offshoots have divided PAFLA, bringing it crashing down into these two opposed camps.

I thought Ainin's thing was Glasgia, or is it and is Glasgia just fucking with us?

Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. But comrade, surely if property is simply a creation of the bourgeoisie then none truly own anything but rather the bourgeoisie own all.

OOC: No, I think It should be still here for RP purposes. You can't just expunge something because somebody rage quits and it's inconvenient with what you now wish to do. Anyway, the security services have a better idea to reduce the CTALNH's PAFLA standing.

[New Zepuha]

Lets pull a few PR raids to make the public feel safe.

[The Nihilistic view]

Lets pull a few PR raids to make the public feel safe.

That was my thoughts, we don't need to do anything OOCly when we can make IC actions for the same ends. Makes me wonder why so many people are so keen to do thing OOC that there is an answer for ICly.


But yes we should plan some against High Ranking members.

[Glasgia]

Come on Stormjaegeren, one terrorist attack at a time

For Rp purposes, if Ainin (or not Ainin ) is ok with this, CTALNH's PAFLA never existed. PAFLA did, but it has been largely dormant since the Cold War. Formerly a broad collection of militant Communists, recent Trotskyist and Marxist-Leninist offshoots have divided PAFLA, bringing it crashing down into these two opposed camps.



Perhaps it is, perhaps it isn't. But comrade, surely if property is simply a creation of the bourgeoisie then none truly own anything but rather the bourgeoisie own all.

OOC: No, I think It should be still here for RP purposes. You can't just expunge something because somebody rage quits and it's inconvenient with what you now wish to do. Anyway, the security services have a better idea to reduce the CTALNH's PAFLA standing.

It was unrealistic and annoying, for RP purposes it should be purged. The only reason I can think of, though there might be others, is simply to avoid setting a precedent for deleting organisations as soon as the leader leaves.

[New Zepuha]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.

[The Nihilistic view]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.................

..............but when we do, we take them to a black site in the middle of an African Jungle.

[New Zepuha]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.................

..............but when we do, we take them to ablack site in the middle of an African Jungle.

Fixed.

[Glasgia]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.

The difference is that latter's an IC arrest, which needs to be justified ICly, and the former's an OOC deletion, which I think is justified OOCly. If you like, think of it as a retcon of CTALNH generally.

Nonetheless, if there's opposition to the idea I'll think of another background for the AMLPF (AmlPF? APF?) which fits with CTALNH's previous operations.

[New Zepuha]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.

The difference is that latter's an IC arrest, which needs to be justified ICly, and the former's an OOC deletion, which I think is justified OOCly. If you like, think of it as a retcon of CTALNH generally.

Nonetheless, if there's opposition to the idea I'll think of another background for the AMLPF (AmlPF? APF?) which fits with CTALNH's previous operations.

I'm firmly opposed to it as an Admin.

Yes, but people don't seem to get that if you are arrested for no reason, you need to contact the proper IC authorities, don't scream admins.

[Glasgia]

The difference is that latter's an IC arrest, which needs to be justified ICly, and the former's an OOC deletion, which I think is justified OOCly. If you like, think of it as a retcon of CTALNH generally.

Nonetheless, if there's opposition to the idea I'll think of another background for the AMLPF (AmlPF? APF?) which fits with CTALNH's previous operations.

I'm firmly opposed to it as an Admin.

Yes, but people don't seem to get that if you are arrested for no reason, you need to contact the proper IC authorities, don't scream admins.

Ok, fair enough - I'll think up something else to explain their emergence.

Exactly. It's an IC arrest, which requires IC justification and therefore the appeal should be made ICly.

[Osea 767]

It also sets a dangerous precedent for deleting things simply because a few senators believe it to be unneeded and annoying. We don't just going around deleting things like we don't go around arresting people we find annoying.................

..............but when we do, we take them to a black site in the middle of an African Jungle learn good behavior. Completion of Reducation will be rewarded with cake. There is no such thing as black sites.

Better.

Seriously though, the points forward for not retconning seem sound, so I'm not going to argue with it and look forward to seeing what is done with it.

[New Zepuha]

I like the idea of a fracture after the loss of a leader.

[Glasgia]

I like the idea of a fracture after the loss of a leader.

That's what I was going with, after Demichev's death, but I don't want to credit CTALNH with keeping it together

[The Nihilistic view]

I like the idea of a fracture after the loss of a leader.

Right, you up for planning some op's against these guys? The old PAFLA leadership I mean to explain them dropping off the map.

[Aurentine Marxist Leninist Peoples Front]

Communication of the Marxist-Leninist People's Front
On behalf of the Aurentine Proletariat

Comrades, today I welcome you. I welcome you to a new age and a new fight. Abandoned by the Trotskyite counter-revolutionaries, a group far more loyal to the bourgeoisie than the proletarians, those still loyal to the Marxist cause must continue our fight without such traitors. It is clear that the democratic revolution is worthless and so too is that of the Trotskyites, too afraid to combat the bourgeoisie control of their lives. It now falls to us and all those behind the banners of Marx and Lenin to advance the revolution, against all who stand for the bourgeoisie in their fortresses of wealth. This is not the declaration of war, even if the bourgeoisie's protectors may treat it as such, but rather the statement of intent from the Aurentine people, intent to free themselves of the chains of Capitalism.