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The Union of the West
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Postby The Union of the West » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:28 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Ainin wrote:lol

Replace Polandball with Aurentinaball and it'd be an accurate representation of the Aurentine gov't right now.

Pretty much.
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The IASM
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Postby The IASM » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:32 pm

Britanno wrote:
The IASM wrote:We have no reason to intervene and anyway Russia currently I feel has rightful claims on the Crimea and if the people want Russia to annex them let them do so.


But where is the evidence that the people of Crimea want to be Russian?

What Crimea needs is a democratic referendum that takes place without Russian influence or intimidation (ie. Russian troops piss off for a bit) and the people decide. If they choose to be Russian, then I'll agree.

Currently however, Russia has no rights over Ukraine and its rule there is illegitimate.

I see no reason why Russia cannot own Ukraine and right now provoking the country which has just invaded a country and is ready for war is a bad idea. I'd rather not do anything an stay neutral and anyway we are legally required to stay neutral.
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Postby Mediciano » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:32 pm

Britanno wrote:
Mediciano wrote:I'd like to direct our president and prime minister and gathered senate to this article, before they approve any anti-Russia moves: http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26426961

Other nations aren't taking as "hardline" a stance as they claim too, and we too should avoid any rash decisions.


We should do what is right, regardless of the actions of others.

Wrong, blind idealism will get us nowhere. There's a good reason why the UK and other EU nations won't impose trade restrictions. Like them or not, Russia is an integral part of European economics and operations.

Not only that, but entering a conflict blindly with only our naive morality to guide us is not in the best interests of the country. In my book, at least, Aurentines are of higher priority than Ukrainians. Do you feel differently, senator?
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Postby The IASM » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:36 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Britanno wrote:
We should do what is right, regardless of the actions of others.

Wrong, blind idealism will get us nowhere. There's a good reason why the UK and other EU nations won't impose trade restrictions. Like them or not, Russia is an integral part of European economics and operations.

Not only that, but entering a conflict blindly with only our naive morality to guide us is not in the best interests of the country. In my book, at least, Aurentines are higher than Ukrainians on my agenda. Do you feel differently, senator?

^ Look were idealism got America last time with Iraq? I do hold realpotik and realism to be the best operational ways of dealing wi the situation, we shall stay neutral and support the victor and anyway, think about it - if these trade sanctions actually go enforced, there is only Aurentina to them to go to and Switzerland think.
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20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:48 pm

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1XoYIIj ... w/viewform


Poll for those interested on who we should side with and what action we should take.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:48 pm

Britanno wrote:
Mediciano wrote:I'd like to direct our president and prime minister and gathered senate to this article, before they approve any anti-Russia moves: http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26426961

Other nations aren't taking as "hardline" a stance as they claim too, and we too should avoid any rash decisions.


We should do what is right, regardless of the actions of others.

Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw
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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:00 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Britanno wrote:
We should do what is right, regardless of the actions of others.

Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw

Have you considered not always being drunk?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:01 pm

Ainin wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw

Have you considered not always being drunk?


He is not always drunk, sometimes he is just mildly inebriated.
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Postby The IASM » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:01 pm

Ainin wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw

Have you considered not always being drunk?

This is not going to end well...
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20:22 Kirav Normal in Akai is nightmare fuel in the rest of the world.
11:33 Jedoria Something convoluted is going on in Akai probably.
Transoxthraxia: I'm no hentai connoisseur, but I'm pretty sure Akai's domestic politics would be like, at least top ten most fucked up hentais"
18:26 Deusaeuri Let me put it this way, you're what would happen if Lovecraft decided to write political dystopian techno thriller
20:19 Heku tits has gone mental
20:19 Jakee >gone
05:48 Malay lol akai sounds lovely this time of never


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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:02 pm

Ainin wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw

Have you considered not always being drunk?

...

,,,

No. i wish I was always drunk/high/tripping/rolling. Sadly, I don;t have enough money.
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Postby Corenea » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:02 pm

Ainin wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Morals have n place in politicd.

Bismarckian poltics ftw

Have you considered not always being drunk?

A sober Pruss? That's like a poutineless Canada, highly unlikely
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:02 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ainin wrote:Have you considered not always being drunk?


He is not always drunk, sometimes he is just mildly inebriated.

^

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:03 pm

Corenea wrote:
Ainin wrote:Have you considered not always being drunk?

A sober Pruss? That's like a poutineless Canada, highly unlikely

And much less fun
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:08 pm

Out of curiosity, what drugs have ou guys tried? (including alcohol, tobaccom weed, caggeine)
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:08 pm

Let's not go there, shall we?

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Postby Mediciano » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:09 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Out of curiosity, what drugs have ou guys tried? (including alcohol, tobaccom weed, caggeine)

I think this is a bad discussion to have on a public forum.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:10 pm

The Republic of Lanos wrote:Let's not go there, shall we?

Good point. Let's go drugs-forum.com on this.

What drugs has your bet friend tred?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:10 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Out of curiosity, what drugs have ou guys tried? (including alcohol, tobaccom weed, caggeine)

I think this is a bad discussion to have on a public forum.

See above. Self-incrimination isnt good.
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:13 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Out of curiosity, what drugs have ou guys tried? (including alcohol, tobaccom weed, caggeine)


I tried Caffeine once when I was feeling particularly gangsta.
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Postby Beta Test » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:15 pm

I drink tea regularly.
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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:16 pm

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Postby East Ormania » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:16 pm

I have been drinking Coffee since i was 3, almost nonstop, if that's considered a type of drug.

I think we also all know what kind of death i will be met up with.
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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:16 pm

East Ormania wrote:I have been drinking Coffee since i was 3, almost nonstop, if that's considered a type of drug.

I think we also all know what kind of death i will be met up with.

The kind where you stop breathing?
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:17 pm

Well damn. Why is NSg so straightlaced? i know some of you at least drink.
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:17 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Out of curiosity, what drugs have ou guys tried? (including alcohol, tobaccom weed, caggeine)


I tried Caffeine once when I was feeling particularly gangsta.

:roll: We all know you mighteven outdo me on the alcoholim, Nihil
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