NSG Senate Lobby: Four Scones and Seven Pastries Ago

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:18 am

Mobbusters wrote:
Aeken wrote::blink:

Well then.

hai

I wouldn't say you were from the "old days."

by **New Zepuha** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:28 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Do we have an ambassador in Moscow? I say we withdraw him immediately.

Yes, cutting off diplomatic channels is always the best course of action in situations like this.

Also this is 2014, they might be a Woman. Or even Trans.

Lets just stop doing everything with them.

by **Mediciano** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:51 am

New Zepuha wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
Yes, cutting off diplomatic channels is always the best course of action in situations like this.

Also this is 2014, they might be a Woman. Or even Trans.

Lets just stop doing everything with them.

Yeah! No more oil or gas!

by **Ainin** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:53 am

Mediciano wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:Lets just stop doing everything with them.

Yeah! No more oil or gas!

Glasgia wrote:
Yanalia wrote:OoC: How much Russian gas do we import?

Probably very little. We have much stronger trade links with large gas producers such as Norway, the US, Canada or the Netherlands.

by **Kamchastkia** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:55 am

Ainin wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Yeah! No more oil or gas!

Glasgia wrote:
Probably very little. We have much stronger trade links with large gas producers such as Norway, the US, Canada or the Netherlands.

Yes! Let's embargo a country for fighting the forces of fascism and protecting ethnic Russians who are under attack!

by **Ainin** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:57 am

Kamchastkia wrote:
Ainin wrote:

Yes! Let's embargo a country for fighting the forces of fascism and protecting ethnic Russians who are under attack!

Oh, touché! I concede the argument that I didn't make.

EDIT: Seriously though, fail strawman is fail.

by **The Nihilistic view** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:58 am

Ainin wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Yeah! No more oil or gas!

Glasgia wrote:
Probably very little. We have much stronger trade links with large gas producers such as Norway, the US, Canada or the Netherlands.

It's a world market with one price. Where it comes from is totally irrelevant. Russia produces 20% of world gas and 14% of oil. There is no way that cutting this off would not see huge price rises in both markets due to demand. World demand would still be the same but supply would have been cut by a massive 5th. Expect large price rises if that happens.

EDIT: Oh look Glas you just fucked the poor over with high energy prices again.

by **Macedonian Grand Empire** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:28 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Ainin wrote:

It's a world market with one price. Where it come from is totally irreverent. Russia produces 20% of world gas and 14% of oil. There is no way that cutting this off would not see huge price rises in both markets due to demand. World demand would still be the but supply would have been cut by a massive 5th. Expect large price rises if that happens.

yeah... But people think if you do not buy from them it will stay as it is...

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:20 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
It's a world market with one price. Where it come from is totally irreverent. Russia produces 20% of world gas and 14% of oil. There is no way that cutting this off would not see huge price rises in both markets due to demand. World demand would still be the but supply would have been cut by a massive 5th. Expect large price rises if that happens.

yeah... But people think if you do not buy from them it will stay as it is...

but apparently economics nisn't their forte so they don't think about it.

support russia, let them get ukraie straight nand shit.

by **The Nihilistic view** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:23 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:yeah... But people think if you do not buy from them it will stay as it is...

but apparently economics nisn't their forte so they don't think about it.

support russia, let them get ukraie straight nand shit.

Well it's definitely not the leader of the oppositions strong suit.

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:32 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:but apparently economics nisn't their forte so they don't think about it.

support russia, let them get ukraie straight nand shit.

Well it's definitely not the leader of the oppositions strong suit.

economics are compliacted man. So yeah et the nigh-experts deal with it. I still say cooperate and just leave them alone. Russia will do what they want, Uka and US are pussies at this point. They will "fix" Ukraine in the sense tat Ptin will bring stability.

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:33 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Do we have an ambassador in Moscow? I say we withdraw him immediately.

Yes, cutting off diplomatic channels is always the best course of action in situations like this.

Also this is 2014, they might be a Woman. Or even Trans.

Putin in a orgy with Merkle and Obama just came to mind for jo apparent reason

by **The Republic of Lanos** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:49 am

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:support russia, let them get ukraie straight nand shit.

No. That'll make us look stupid when we just can't say no to the United States (although we could thanks to weak Obama). It's not in our interests to piss off the EU like Belarus. Standing with the EU and the US is the best thing to do and acting with them in sanctions and such.

In fact, it's probably about time, in my opinion, to get on track with seeking NATO membership.

-coming from the MoFR

by **Yanalia** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:53 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:support russia, let them get ukraie straight nand shit.

No. That'll make us look stupid when we just can't say no to the United States (although we could thanks to weak Obama). It's not in our interests to piss off the EU like Belarus. Standing with the EU and the US is the best thing to do and acting with them in sanctions and such.

In fact, it's probably about time, in my opinion, to get on track with seeking NATO membership.

-coming from the MoFR

The Senate has already rejected NATO membership, unless this changed since I left.

by **The Republic of Lanos** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:54 am

Yanalia wrote:The Senate has already rejected NATO membership, unless this changed since I left.

A resurgent mother Russia is something we should be a bit afraid of. Georgia the country is liable to join NATO at this rate now.

by **Yanalia** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:55 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Yanalia wrote:The Senate has already rejected NATO membership, unless this changed since I left.

A resurgent mother Russia is something we should be a bit afraid of. Georgia the country is liable to join NATO at this rate now.

Russian invasion of Aurentina isn't going to happen. We're not Georgia.

by **Prussia-Steinbach** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:58 am

Yanalia wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:A resurgent mother Russia is something we should be a bit afraid of. Georgia the country is liable to join NATO at this rate now.

Russian invasion of Aurentina isn't going to happen. We're not Georgia.

Exactly. i don[t thnk we have to worry about invasion by the US o r Russia. The only interest we really have is proitability in peace time, so let's let zRssia do its thing in the zukraine.

by **The Nihilistic view** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:01 pm

Yanalia wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:A resurgent mother Russia is something we should be a bit afraid of. Georgia the country is liable to join NATO at this rate now.

Russian invasion of Aurentina isn't going to happen. We're not Georgia.

by **The IASM** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:13 pm

We have no reason to intervene and anyway Russia currently I feel has rightful claims on the Crimea and if the people want Russia to annex them let them do so.

by **Mediciano** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:22 pm

I'd like to direct our president and prime minister and gathered senate to this article, before they approve any anti-Russia moves: http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26426961

Other nations aren't taking as "hardline" a stance as they claim too, and we too should avoid any rash decisions.

by **Britanno** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:24 pm

The IASM wrote:We have no reason to intervene and anyway Russia currently I feel has rightful claims on the Crimea and if the people want Russia to annex them let them do so.

But where is the evidence that the people of Crimea want to be Russian?

What Crimea needs is a democratic referendum that takes place without Russian influence or intimidation (ie. Russian troops piss off for a bit) and the people decide. If they choose to be Russian, then I'll agree.

Currently however, Russia has no rights over Ukraine and its rule there is illegitimate.

by **Ainin** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:25 pm

by **Kamchastkia** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Ainin wrote:lol

Replace Polandball with Aurentinaball and it'd be an accurate representation of the Aurentine gov't right now.

by **Unicario** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:27 pm

Ainin wrote:lol

+1

by **Britanno** » Mon Mar 03, 2014 12:28 pm

Mediciano wrote:I'd like to direct our president and prime minister and gathered senate to this article, before they approve any anti-Russia moves: http://m.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-26426961

Other nations aren't taking as "hardline" a stance as they claim too, and we too should avoid any rash decisions.

We should do what is right, regardless of the actions of others.

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