NSG Senate Lobby: Four Scones and Seven Pastries Ago

[New Zepuha]

Look I've been defending Kouralia as much as I can but I dont know. I was never informed of this threat and nor was I informed of any warrants being requested. The MoI is calling for an inquest into the Gendarmerie by the NIB or another agency. I smell something a foot.

Funny how you jump ship whenever you're on the losing side.

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

[Mishmahig]

Funny how you jump ship whenever you're on the losing side.

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

Forgive me, my knowledge of the codes and laws is a bit rusty, but for how long may an individual be detained before being charged?

[New Zepuha]

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

Forgive me, my knowledge of the codes and laws is a bit rusty, but for how long may an individual be detained before being charged?

24-48hrs IIRC

[Britanno]

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

Oh I get that, but you went from defending Kour to practically having a go at him, that's not being concerned.

[Kouralia]

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

Forgive me, my knowledge of the codes and laws is a bit rusty, but for how long may an individual be detained before being charged?

ICly there's probably some leeway, since he was actually detained, then promptly suffered a stroke after about ten seconds and was rushed to hospital by a Gendarmerie military ambulance, then undergoing surgery for a stroke, before eventually being basically 're-detained', where he's now speaking with the interrogator.

[New Zepuha]

Excuse me? I supported him as much as I could. But I have no clue whats even happened, he acted on his own without my knowledge. I didnt learn of this till this morning. I have every right to be concerned with what is, to me, a confusing situation. If he is arrested without charge he is detained.

Oh I get that, but you went from defending Kour to practically having a go at him, that's not being concerned.

Having a go? I asked for an inquest, because apparently I'm not aware of what goes on under my ministry.

[Britanno]

Having a go? I asked for an inquest, because apparently I'm not aware of what goes on under my ministry.

I'm sorry, but you went from defending him to pointing at that you were not at fault for anything and that all responsibility belonged to Kour. Whether that's true or not, you basically just stuck your middle finger up at him to avoid any criticism of yourself. Dress it up how you like.

[New Zepuha]

Having a go? I asked for an inquest, because apparently I'm not aware of what goes on under my ministry.

I'm sorry, but you went from defending him to pointing at that you were not at fault for anything and that all responsibility belonged to Kour. Whether that's true or not, you basically just stuck your middle finger up at him to avoid any criticism of yourself. Dress it up how you like.

Well he did act without my knowledge or consent. That is your opinion no matter how wrong I may see it to be.

[Britanno]

Well he did act without my knowledge or consent. That is your opinion no matter how wrong I may see it to be.

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

[New Zepuha]

Well he did act without my knowledge or consent. That is your opinion no matter how wrong I may see it to be.

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

I'm not sure who exactly is in the wrong here, I'm still putting it together. I'm simply trying to chastise him for not informing me of recent events.

[Ainin]

The hashtag #Justice4AlliedCrimes is being popularised ahead of tomorrow's march by Intellectuals Against Allied Crimes on the US Embassy.

[Mediciano]

Well he did act without my knowledge or consent. That is your opinion no matter how wrong I may see it to be.

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

He's the one who has requested the arrests of three opposition senators in two days, arrested them in large-scale public operations designed to ruin their public image and overall prevent them from going about their business, all on charges with no evidence or logic behind them, and apparently without the consent of his superiors.

[Louis Ashberry Brunnich-Thorn QC]

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

He's the one who has requested the arrests of three opposition senators in two days, arrested them in large-scale public operations designed to ruin their public image and overall prevent them from going about their business, all on charges with no evidence or logic behind them, and apparently without the consent of his superiors.

Three? I must have missed one.

[New Zepuha]

The hashtag #Justice4AlliedCrimes is being popularised ahead of tomorrow's march by Intellectuals Against Allied Crimes on the US Embassy.

*calls the constables ahead of time* oh sounds like fun.

[Kouralia]

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

I'm not sure who exactly is in the wrong here, I'm still putting it together. I'm simply trying to chastise him for not informing me of recent events.

Didn't I inform you on IRC earlier?

I'm not saying that you were responsible, I'm saying that while it is understandable if you disagree with him, you shouldn't blame him for everything like you implied and act like he's the on,y one in the wrong.

He's the one who has requested the arrests of three opposition senators in two days, arrested them in large-scale public operations designed to ruin their public image and overall prevent them from going about their business, all on charges with no evidence or logic behind them, and apparently without the consent of his superiors.

Who was the other one?

Also, all arrests I have recommended have had the prompt approval of the President, afaik.

[Britanno]

He's the one who has requested the arrests of three opposition senators in two days, arrested them in large-scale public operations designed to ruin their public image and overall prevent them from going about their business, all on charges with no evidence or logic behind them, and apparently without the consent of his superiors.

I'm suggesting that Zep's sudden change of sides in the argument may have been down to more than just a quick change of thought.

[Mediciano]

The hashtag #Justice4AlliedCrimes is being popularised ahead of tomorrow's march by Intellectuals Against Allied Crimes on the US Embassy.

I cannot possibly foresee anything going wrong there or with such a politically charged march on a foreign embassy!

[Finium]

Forgive me, my knowledge of the codes and laws is a bit rusty, but for how long may an individual be detained before being charged?

ICly there's probably some leeway, since he was actually detained, then promptly suffered a stroke after about ten seconds and was rushed to hospital by a Gendarmerie military ambulance, then undergoing surgery for a stroke, before eventually being basically 're-detained', where he's now speaking with the interrogator.

Re-detained? Sounds like double jeopardy to me.

[Kouralia]

ICly there's probably some leeway, since he was actually detained, then promptly suffered a stroke after about ten seconds and was rushed to hospital by a Gendarmerie military ambulance, then undergoing surgery for a stroke, before eventually being basically 're-detained', where he's now speaking with the interrogator.

Re-detained? Sounds like double jeopardy to me.

So, say if I detain someone for a crime and can hold them for 48 hours under laws... and then they immediately have a heart attack and have to go into hospital for 72 hours, does this mean my 48 hours to detain and question them has passed while they were unconscious and/or in surgery for 47hrs, 59 minutes and 30 seconds of the time?

[New Zepuha]

He's the one who has requested the arrests of three opposition senators in two days, arrested them in large-scale public operations designed to ruin their public image and overall prevent them from going about their business, all on charges with no evidence or logic behind them, and apparently without the consent of his superiors.

I'm suggesting that Zep's sudden change of sides in the argument may have been down to more than just a quick change of thought.

Again, excuse me?

Yes Kour and I appreciated that but it was after the actions had been carried out. That is the portion I was displeased with.

[Ainin]

ICly there's probably some leeway, since he was actually detained, then promptly suffered a stroke after about ten seconds and was rushed to hospital by a Gendarmerie military ambulance, then undergoing surgery for a stroke, before eventually being basically 're-detained', where he's now speaking with the interrogator.

Re-detained? Sounds like double jeopardy to me.

"Double jeopardy is a procedural defence that forbids a defendant from being tried again on the same (or similar) charges following a legitimate acquittal or conviction."

Yeah, uh huh.

[New Zepuha]

Also,

The Ministry of the Interior does not condone vigilante justice, and you will be punished to the full extent of the law if caught.

[Britcan]

Also,

The Ministry of the Interior does not condone vigilante justice, and you will be punished to the full extent of the law if caught.

What is this in relation to?

[Kouralia]

Also,

The Ministry of the Interior does not condone vigilante justice, and you will be punished to the full extent of the law if caught.

What is this in relation to?

Guardians of the Galaxy Aurentina

[Vigilans]

What is this in relation to?

Guardians of the Galaxy Aurentina

NOTHING ABOUT US? :(