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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:46 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Kouralia wrote:We've got it. You forget, you uploaded it to the Monarchists' Journal.

While it was his private property, to do with as he wished... you had no claim on that screen capture.

Where did I say we did?
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Postby Dendart » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:47 pm

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Mediciano wrote:He had a different document, from a different source. You don't own the text in the screen capture, you own the screen capture that you had as evidence. He has a different screen capture, which is his private property, that just so happens to contain the same text.

Okay, simple. We request a seizure warrant from the courts.

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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:48 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:While it was his private property, to do with as he wished... you had no claim on that screen capture.

Where did I say we did?

Releasing a "classified government document" implies that the document is classified and owned by the government... This is assuming you're going to charge him with that, instead of the ridiculous "complicity to murder" charges.
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:48 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Where did I say we did?

Releasing a "classified government document" implies that the document is classified and owned by the government...

Where did I say we did?
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:50 pm

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New Zepuha wrote:Okay, simple. We request a seizure warrant from the courts.

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You have nothing to worry about, then. It's sheer stupidity to charge you with complicity to murder (which Kour seems intent on doing), so just sit tight and let it go to trial. You and Pelle are innocent of everything, the Justice ministry and courts will see that.
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Postby Dendart » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:51 pm

I don't have time to be on trial I have to go to rome for easter
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:52 pm

Dendart wrote:I don't have time to be on trial I have to go to rome for easter

I've contacted the Justice Minister and will contact the President and Interior Minister. We'll see if we can fast-track this nonsense...
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Postby Ainin » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:05 pm

Can I ask how the Ministers of the Interior or Justice gain IC knowledge of this without resolve to extreme metagaming?
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Postby Ainin » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:07 pm

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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:10 pm

Ainin wrote:Can I ask how the Ministers of the Interior or Justice gain IC knowledge of this without resolve to extreme metagaming?

The fact that the senator was arrested? That's common IC knowledge...

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Postby Phocidaea » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:15 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Ainin wrote:Can I ask how the Ministers of the Interior or Justice gain IC knowledge of this without resolve to extreme metagaming?

The fact that the senator was arrested? That's common IC knowledge...

But IC we wouldn't know about what he did to get arrested (yet).
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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:18 pm

Mediciano wrote:I've contacted the Justice Minister and will contact the President and Interior Minister.

I get the slight feeling that none of those people are in the frame of mind to attempt to fast track investigations into your personal friends.
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:19 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Mediciano wrote:The fact that the senator was arrested? That's common IC knowledge...

But IC we wouldn't know about what he did to get arrested (yet).

Ah, right you are. We'll hold off then.

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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:20 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:I've contacted the Justice Minister and will contact the President and Interior Minister.

I get the slight feeling that none of those people are in the frame of mind to attempt to fast track investigations into your personal friends.

Investigations? Try fabricated charges....

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Postby Kouralia » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:22 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Kouralia wrote:I get the slight feeling that none of those people are in the frame of mind to attempt to fast track investigations into your personal friends.

Investigations? Try fabricated charges....

We haven't charged him yet. Sorry about that.
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Postby Britcan » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:24 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Kouralia wrote:I get the slight feeling that none of those people are in the frame of mind to attempt to fast track investigations into your personal friends.

Investigations? Try fabricated charges....

This is exactly the sort of thing you said when Kruger was arrested and we all know what the outcome of that was.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:29 pm

Britcan wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Investigations? Try fabricated charges....

This is exactly the sort of thing you said when Kruger was arrested and we all know what the outcome of that was.

OOCly: I had reasons to do what I did in pleading guilty, not the least of which was that I wanted a new character and for that dumb trial to end. I could have ICly dragged it out, but there was no need. Here, I am genuinely trying to protect the interests of a fellow CMP member who is being unjustly prosecuted.
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Postby Britcan » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:31 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Britcan wrote:This is exactly the sort of thing you said when Kruger was arrested and we all know what the outcome of that was.

OOCly: I had reasons to do what I did in pleading guilty, not the least of which was that I wanted a new character and for that dumb trial to end. I could have ICly dragged it out, but there was no need. Here, I am genuinely trying to protect the interests of a fellow CMP member who is being unjustly prosecuted.

My point is that you were using very similar arguments so we have a good reason to take what you are saying with a pinch of salt.

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Postby Mishmahig » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:43 pm

Wait, I'm sorry.

A senator is being prosecuted for murder because of a screencap in which he had contacted the organization behind a terrorist attack? A screencap that doesn't show the full text of the message, and which really doesn't seem to say anything incriminating?

I feel like I'm missing something major here. Where's the basis for the murder?

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Postby Beta Test » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:45 pm

Mishmahig wrote:Wait, I'm sorry.

A senator is being prosecuted for murder because of a screencap in which he had contacted the organization behind a terrorist attack? A screencap that doesn't show the full text of the message, and which really doesn't seem to say anything incriminating?

I feel like I'm missing something major here. Where's the basis for the murder?

Not murder. 1,500 counts of attempted murder.
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Postby Mishmahig » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:46 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:Wait, I'm sorry.

A senator is being prosecuted for murder because of a screencap in which he had contacted the organization behind a terrorist attack? A screencap that doesn't show the full text of the message, and which really doesn't seem to say anything incriminating?

I feel like I'm missing something major here. Where's the basis for the murder?

Not murder. 1,500 counts of attempted murder.


My apologies.

That still doesn't clear up my confusion.
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:47 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:Wait, I'm sorry.

A senator is being prosecuted for murder because of a screencap in which he had contacted the organization behind a terrorist attack? A screencap that doesn't show the full text of the message, and which really doesn't seem to say anything incriminating?

I feel like I'm missing something major here. Where's the basis for the murder?

Not murder. 1,500 counts of attempted murder.

14, actually, and just complicity. The Gendarme has read him his charges. Why would he be charged with the anthrax attacks?
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:52 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Not murder. 1,500 counts of attempted murder.

14, actually, and just complicity. The Gendarme has read him his charges. Why would he be charged with the anthrax attacks?

Because he gave the anthrax to SJ, did he not?
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:54 pm

Beta Test wrote:
Mediciano wrote:14, actually, and just complicity. The Gendarme has read him his charges. Why would he be charged with the anthrax attacks?

Because he gave the anthrax to SJ, did he not?

WHAT?? Senator Machiavelli? How did you reach that conclusion?
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Postby Mediciano » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:57 pm

Mediciano wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Because he gave the anthrax to SJ, did he not?

WHAT?? Senator Machiavelli? How did you reach that conclusion?

It just occurred to me that you might not be aware that Kruger pled guilty. We're discussing Senator Machiavelli who's on trial for publishing a screencap sent to him by the Stormjagers in the Monarchist Journal.
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