NSG Senate Lobby: Four Scones and Seven Pastries Ago

[Britanno]

That's up to the CPS. I recommend we press charges, so that if he is innocent, he can't be brought to trial again. But then that also works against us if he is guilty... oh well bearing that in mind the CPS has the choice on this.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

[FreeOlesia]

I had already handed the account over to FreeOlesia when that was sent...

Also, I've never received or sent TGs from or to the Stormjager account from this account, making that whole "contact me at my home account" thing utter BS. Furthermore, why would I sign a treasonous letter? Who the fuck does that?

I had issues with logging into the MoD account after I had been given the password. (I thought it the nation was called Ministry of Defence instead of The Ministry of Defence). I only gained control of the account twelve days ago.

[New Zepuha]

That's up to the CPS. I recommend we press charges, so that if he is innocent, he can't be brought to trial again. But then that also works against us if he is guilty... oh well bearing that in mind the CPS has the choice on this.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

No. Then we have found a problem with the CPS.

[Ainin]

That's up to the CPS. I recommend we press charges, so that if he is innocent, he can't be brought to trial again. But then that also works against us if he is guilty... oh well bearing that in mind the CPS has the choice on this.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

And when did the CPS charge Tom Schmidt?

This is a WARRANT granted by a JUDGE at the behest of the POLICE.

[Ainin]

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

No. Then we have found a problem with the CPS.

Yes, let's all scapegoat the Commonwealth Prosecution Service.

[New Zepuha]

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

And when did the CPS charge Tom Schmidt?

This is a WARRANT granted by a JUDGE at the behest of the POLICE.

I was under the impression that the CPS must decide to press charges or not? That is how you described it to me.

[Mediciano]

No, but your profile picture on the 'secret' Mafia forums was your senator's picture, and you described yourself 'Black Jack' as owner of the *whatever* casino that Rothschild owned.

It'd be like me using Wintle's face and then describing myself as a Marquess.

That is true though thinking about it.

Well that was a different situation entirely... the forums were ICly secret and the handle 'Black Jack' was intentionally related to the casino. I also used my main account in running Rothschild's actions. ICly, though, I never sent documents with my name attached. Rothschild is also still legally innocent, as he hasn't been tried.

[New Zepuha]

No. Then we have found a problem with the CPS.

Yes, let's all scapegoat the Commonwealth Prosecution Service.

Well if the CPS has issues like he implies, then why blame the entire system for one part of it?

[Ainin]

And when did the CPS charge Tom Schmidt?

This is a WARRANT granted by a JUDGE at the behest of the POLICE.

I was under the impression that the CPS must decide to press charges or not? That is how you described it to me.

And when did we press charges against Schmidt?

[New Zepuha]

I was under the impression that the CPS must decide to press charges or not? That is how you described it to me.

And when did we press charges against Schmidt?

You didn't.... I just fucking said that it was your choice to or not.

[Britanno]

And when did the CPS charge Tom Schmidt?

This is a WARRANT granted by a JUDGE at the behest of the POLICE.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

I know he has been arrested, but has he actually been charged? Or have they just brought him in for questioning?

Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.

I never said they did, I said if they did then we have found a problem. I asked whether he had been charged two times, obviously showing that I hadn't a clue if he had or not.

[Kouralia]

That is true though thinking about it.

Well that was a different situation entirely... the forums were ICly secret and the handle 'Black Jack' was intentionally related to the casino. I also used my main account in running Rothschild's actions. ICly, though, I never sent documents with my name attached. Rothschild is also still legally innocent, as he hasn't been tried.

A TG is ultimately ICly secret also.

[Mediciano]

Well that was a different situation entirely... the forums were ICly secret and the handle 'Black Jack' was intentionally related to the casino. I also used my main account in running Rothschild's actions. ICly, though, I never sent documents with my name attached. Rothschild is also still legally innocent, as he hasn't been tried.

A TG is ultimately ICly secret also.

THEN WHY THE FUCK IS KRUGER ON TRIAL??!?

[New Bierstaat]

A TG is ultimately ICly secret also.

THEN WHY THE FUCK IS KRUGER ON TRIAL??!?

Or Schmidt, for that matter?

[New Zepuha]

A TG is ultimately ICly secret also.

THEN WHY THE FUCK IS KRUGER ON TRIAL??!?

Because the police have custody of the letter?

[Mediciano]

THEN WHY THE FUCK IS KRUGER ON TRIAL??!?

Because the police have custody of the letter?

Oh, you mean the ICly secret letter??

[New Zepuha]

Because the police have custody of the letter?

Oh, you mean the ICly secret letter??

The one that the police have?

The one that only the police authorities know about?

The reason the whole investigation came to a head?

The reason we are waiting until the trial to ICly reveal it?

[Mediciano]

Oh, you mean the ICly secret letter??

The one that the police have?

The one that only the police authorities know about?

The reason the whole investigation came to a head?

The reason we are waiting until the trial to ICly reveal it?

It's already been revealed, first of all. Secondly, a TG is supposed to be ICly secret (had I even sent it in the first place).

[New Zepuha]

SO then you admit that was you that sent it? Technically it's only been OOCly revealed.

[Kouralia]

The one that the police have?

The one that only the police authorities know about?

The reason the whole investigation came to a head?

The reason we are waiting until the trial to ICly reveal it?

It's already been revealed, first of all. Secondly, the TG is ICly secret.

If it was written and intended to be a secret in character, and people then get hold of it, what is to be made of it?

Presumably, ICly, a Telegram is a communication between characters such as a printed out communication, a letter, an email or what have you. When the Ministry was transferred to FreeOlesia, evidence of it was left behind, noticed, and revealed.

[Ainin]

And when did the CPS charge Tom Schmidt?

This is a WARRANT granted by a JUDGE at the behest of the POLICE.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

I know he has been arrested, but has he actually been charged? Or have they just brought him in for questioning?

Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.

I never said they did, I said if they did then we have found a problem. I asked whether he had been charged two times, obviously showing that I hadn't a clue if he had or not.

Frankly, within context, this quote (↓) sounds a lot more like passive-aggressive rhetoric than a hypothetical example.

If the CPS starts charging people with this little evidence, we have found a massive problem with our judiciary system.

EDIT: Well, after you clarified the context of your quote, apologies for the misunderstanding.

[Mediciano]

SO then you admit that was you that sent it? Technically it's only been OOCly revealed.

Oh, fuckin' really? Is this OOC? Also, I did no such thing. I still maintain that this is a setup.

[The Nihilistic view]

It's easy to disprove or prove if med is innocent. Either from his main account or MOD account the TG with the password to the MOD account will be in the sent folder.

[Mediciano]

It's easy to disprove or prove if med is innocent. Either from his main account or MOD account the TG with the password to the MOD account will be in the sent folder.

We're not trying me, we're trying Kruger.

[Mediciano]

Actually, you know what? Never mind, I did send it. Lock Kruger up. He was acting alone and without the cooperation of Schmidt or any others.

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Feel free to use ICly or OOCly as you'd like. Let's stop wasting time and get back to Senate business. Let me know if anyone needs anything more in terms of a confession.