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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:55 am

New Bierstaat wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:You don't have to. If your Senator is wanted for committing a crime it is going to happen.

Go bother someone else's senator...

Are we allowed to do this? If so, I second all of NBs words on the issue.
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Postby The IASM » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:56 am

Kouralia wrote:
The IASM wrote:OOC: I find it amusing that even though I told the police about my mafia past, I haven't been arrested yet :p

Oh, yeah. Since you didn't give evidence which secured an arrest I'll need to speak to the current MoI/MoJ about that.

OOC: You never arrested him though!
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:56 am

Mediciano wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Go bother someone else's senator.

Are we allowed to do this? If so, I second all of NBs words on the issue.

Oh, really?
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:57 am

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Are we allowed to do this? If so, I second all of NBs words on the issue.

Oh, really?

Is that intentionally blurred, because I can't read a thing.

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Postby The IASM » Thu Apr 17, 2014 10:58 am

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Are we allowed to do this? If so, I second all of NBs words on the issue.

Oh, really?

Destory your telegrams people, it covers your tracks well.
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Postby Kouralia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:01 am

Mediciano wrote:

Is that intentionally blurred, because I can't read a thing.

Edited to provide better quality version.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:20 am

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Is that intentionally blurred, because I can't read a thing.

Edited to provide better quality version.

I think it might actually be worse...

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Postby Kouralia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:24 am

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Kouralia wrote:Edited to provide better quality version.

I think it might actually be worse...

Fuck... me...

Expect a new shipment in three days. We can't package the Stern or Vollus-1D anymore, as the packaging facilities are on lockdown. Some MoD analysts figured out that you were using a military strain.
I've kept the information suppressed and will forward the analysts' names to you, in case you need them to "disappear." Ultimately this is the end of that operation. You won't be getting more of either strain from us. If you still have the original cultures, though, then that shouldn't be a problem.
As for the Ext-Bio Weapons Program, I'm going to cancel that and get rid of all documentation. There will be a new MoD coming in and you can imagine how it would look if we were manufacturing WMDs. The President is aware that we are manufacturing these WMDs and supplying you, though we've gone to great lengths so that he can plausibly deny it. I am the only one at risk here and I'll be damned if I'm going to let a Commie catch me.
The products will be moving South tomorrow via rail, if you're interested. Expect opposition, though it is worth it. The Vollus 1D is virtually incurable, unlike the Stern strain you used in Leishaagen. There's also a mutated pneumonia and smallpox on board, each with the potential for mass casualties. The president has given approval for you to receive all except the smallpox, as we can't control that strain's transmission pattern. I'll rig the case with thermite to kill it if you attack the rail car.
Finally, I'll ask you not to contact this account or the president directly again. I'm handing over my station soon and it wouldn't be good if I had an inbox full of messages from terrorists. Instead, contact me at my home account.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:27 am

I had already handed the account over to FreeOlesia when that was sent...

Also, I've never received or sent TGs from or to the Stormjager account from this account, making that whole "contact me at my home account" thing utter BS. Furthermore, why would I sign a treasonous letter? Who the fuck does that?
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:28 am

OOC: so this is the proof that the president was part of it? So tell do you have a signed document? Or any evidence but this against him? Cause sorry but this will not pass in any court.
Edit: Kour hold a second and check when the telegram is sent.
Medicano when you handed over control over the account?
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:31 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:OOC: so this is the proof that the president was part of it? So tell do you have a signed document? Or any evidence but this against him? Cause sorry but this will not pass in any court.
Edit: Kour hold a second and check when the telegram is sent.
Medicano when you handed over control over the account?

When the ProgCoa government took power.

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Postby New Bierstaat » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:35 am

Mediciano wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:OOC: so this is the proof that the president was part of it? So tell do you have a signed document? Or any evidence but this against him? Cause sorry but this will not pass in any court.
Edit: Kour hold a second and check when the telegram is sent.
Medicano when you handed over control over the account?

When the ProgCoa government took power.

The TG was sent on March 30, as can be seen from the date on the Start menu (April 6) and the fact that the TG was from "7 days ago".
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:35 am

Mediciano wrote:
Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:OOC: so this is the proof that the president was part of it? So tell do you have a signed document? Or any evidence but this against him? Cause sorry but this will not pass in any court.
Edit: Kour hold a second and check when the telegram is sent.
Medicano when you handed over control over the account?

When the ProgCoa government took power.

SO that would be which date?
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:37 am

Also, it says "this is the end of that operation." Where is the TG that marks the "beginning" of that operation? I'll post the entirety of my sent messages to prove that it wasn't sent from this account, can you post all the sent messages from that account? Without that first TG, this one, which conveniently lays out the entirety of my accused crimes in detail, was clearly sent as a setup of some sort to implicate me and NB in crimes we didn't commit.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:46 am

Mediciano wrote:Also, it says "this is the end of that operation." Where is the TG that marks the "beginning" of that operation? I'll post the entirety of my sent messages to prove that it wasn't sent from this account, can you post all the sent messages from that account? Without that first TG, this one, which conveniently lays out the entirety of my accused crimes in detail, was clearly sent as a setup of some sort to implicate me and NB in crimes we didn't commit.

Actually, yeah! I want the entirety of the MoD account's sent TGs released. The TG you have as "evidence" implies prior communication which is, I'd wager, nonexistent. As we all know, sent TGs can't be deleted, so there can be no editing to favor one side. I'll post my info up until the date of the Storm jager's account creation, if the MoD agrees to do the same.

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Postby Britanno » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:51 am

Glasgia wrote:Innocent until proven guilty is a legal concept, one that is intended to ensure that the defendant is guilty beyond reasonable doubt before they are punished for a crime that they may not have done. Having seen the evidence myself, which I believe has been made public, I personally believe that Tom Schmidt is guilty of the aforementioned crimes and will be found guilty in court. However, these are only my beliefs as a private citizen - Not as the Prime Minister or as any representative of the government, in my capacity as which I will place my full faith in our law enforcement and judiciary systems to deliver the correct verdict.


You are the Prime Minister, you should not be commenting on ongoing trials in which the accused has not yet been found guilty. If you don't like that, then you shouldn't have become PM. It is irresponsible and wrong for someone in your position to make comments like you did.
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:59 am

Mediciano wrote:I had already handed the account over to FreeOlesia when that was sent...

Also, I've never received or sent TGs from or to the Stormjager account from this account, making that whole "contact me at my home account" thing utter BS. Furthermore, why would I sign a treasonous letter? Who the fuck does that?

A stupid criminal is the obvious answer.
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Postby Mediciano » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:03 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Mediciano wrote:I had already handed the account over to FreeOlesia when that was sent...

Also, I've never received or sent TGs from or to the Stormjager account from this account, making that whole "contact me at my home account" thing utter BS. Furthermore, why would I sign a treasonous letter? Who the fuck does that?

A stupid criminal is the obvious answer.

Well fuck you, too. It's pretty clearly a set-up. I've been a criminal before, remember Rothschild? I never sent signed TGs then, either...

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Postby Kouralia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:05 pm

Mediciano wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:A stupid criminal is the obvious answer.

Well fuck you, too. It's pretty clearly a set-up. I've been a criminal before, remember Rothschild? I never sent signed TGs then, either...

No, but your profile picture on the 'secret' Mafia forums was your senator's picture, and you described yourself 'Black Jack' as owner of the *whatever* casino that Rothschild owned.

It'd be like me using Wintle's face and then describing myself as a Marquess.
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Postby Britanno » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:06 pm

Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:07 pm

Britanno wrote:Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.

He is. There is also a warrant for his arrest. And I agree that that single telegram will not pass in any court. Unless they have evidence that is conclusive they can not move against him. So this would allow him to sue the government.
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Postby The IASM » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:08 pm

Kouralia wrote:
Mediciano wrote:Well fuck you, too. It's pretty clearly a set-up. I've been a criminal before, remember Rothschild? I never sent signed TGs then, either...

No, but your profile picture on the 'secret' Mafia forums was your senator's picture, and you described yourself 'Black Jack' as owner of the *whatever* casino that Rothschild owned.

It'd be like me using Wintle's face and then describing myself as a Marquess.

That is true though thinking about it.
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Postby Britanno » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:09 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:He is. There is also a warrant for his arrest. And I agree that that single telegram will not pass in any court. Unless they have evidence that is conclusive they can not move against him. So this would allow him to sue the government.


I know he has been arrested, but has he actually been charged? Or have they just brought him in for questioning?
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:09 pm

Britanno wrote:Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.

That's up to the CPS. I recommend we press charges, so that if he is innocent, he can't be brought to trial again. But then that also works against us if he is guilty... oh well bearing that in mind the CPS has the choice on this.
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Postby New Zepuha » Thu Apr 17, 2014 12:11 pm

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
Britanno wrote:Has actually Tom been charged with anything yet? Cos that 'evidence' is definitely not enough to charge him with alone.

He is. There is also a warrant for his arrest. And I agree that that single telegram will not pass in any court. Unless they have evidence that is conclusive they can not move against him. So this would allow him to sue the government.

No it wouldn't, you can't sue the courts for bringing you to trial. If the judge has reasonable suspicion and that the CPS wants to press charges, it was done legally and he will loose his civil case as well.
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