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Postby Gidgetisms » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Because they won't listen to you simply because you are not in a position of authority.

Look, I get what you are saying. However, to have this discussion every week or two is getting tiring. I think all of us regulars got the point you are trying to make. No need to go ahead and rehash the same lines.


But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.

by rehashing it, you're just compounding the problem.
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Postby New Maldorainia » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 pm

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New Maldorainia wrote:Everyone needs to calm down before this gets into a flame war and the mods are forced to lock and clean up TET and hand out bans and warnings.


to be honest, that would not be a bad thing, the issue does need a resolution from a higher authority.

this is a freaking chat thread, it should be about sexual innuendo (PG-13) at multiple genders on multiple levels and a place to meet and greet as human beings, Where liberals and conservatives and commies and facists can learn we are all just regular human beings, who just have a different point of view, which since relationships of sorts can be formed, would reduce the general "fuckyouyourwrongedness" of the other general threads.


Unfortunately it is the lockings and clean up that have caused them to consider shuttering TET like the Wombat.
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Postby Taoju » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Because they won't listen to you simply because you are not in a position of authority.

Look, I get what you are saying. However, to have this discussion every week or two is getting tiring. I think all of us regulars got the point you are trying to make. No need to go ahead and rehash the same lines.


But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.

Then don't rehash 'em.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:41 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
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Because some people don't seem to be getting the message, while others are purposely speeding and driving the wrong way purely out of spite. And in some cases, I'm even having eggs thrown at me (personal attacks and the like) for doing so.


Because they won't listen to you simply because you are not in a position of authority.

Look, I get what you are saying. However, to have this discussion every week or two is getting tiring. I think all of us regulars got the point you are trying to make. No need to go ahead and rehash the same lines.


last week or two? its been the last 30 fucking pages
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:43 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Because they won't listen to you simply because you are not in a position of authority.

Look, I get what you are saying. However, to have this discussion every week or two is getting tiring. I think all of us regulars got the point you are trying to make. No need to go ahead and rehash the same lines.


But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.


The problems are LESS FREQUENT, which is good. But they will never stop. People will be people, there is no such thing as a 100% perfect thread or conversation or product or whatever it is. Stop making it look like there is.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:44 pm

New Maldorainia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
to be honest, that would not be a bad thing, the issue does need a resolution from a higher authority.

this is a freaking chat thread, it should be about sexual innuendo (PG-13) at multiple genders on multiple levels and a place to meet and greet as human beings, Where liberals and conservatives and commies and facists can learn we are all just regular human beings, who just have a different point of view, which since relationships of sorts can be formed, would reduce the general "fuckyouyourwrongedness" of the other general threads.


Unfortunately it is the lockings and clean up that have caused them to consider shuttering TET like the Wombat.


i dont know where you get your information from, just like the isreal and lesbian threads, they shut iTET own they get 30 new TETS a week, it is much easier to manage as a single thread on the board. then 30 that are poping up whenever someone gets an itch to say 'OOOHHH i am lonely "
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Postby Taoju » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:45 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.


The problems are LESS FREQUENT, which is good. But they will never stop. People will be people, there is no such thing as a 100% perfect thread or conversation or product or whatever it is. Stop making it look like there is.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:45 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Because they won't listen to you simply because you are not in a position of authority.

Look, I get what you are saying. However, to have this discussion every week or two is getting tiring. I think all of us regulars got the point you are trying to make. No need to go ahead and rehash the same lines.


last week or two? its been the last 30 fucking pages


I know, what I am saying is that it's been almost every other TET that we have this talk lately, and it's getting to a point where it's just getting tiring.
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:45 pm

Gidgetisms wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.

by rehashing it, you're just compounding the problem.


You can't fix a problem in a group until you point out there is one.

New Maldorainia wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
to be honest, that would not be a bad thing, the issue does need a resolution from a higher authority.

this is a freaking chat thread, it should be about sexual innuendo (PG-13) at multiple genders on multiple levels and a place to meet and greet as human beings, Where liberals and conservatives and commies and facists can learn we are all just regular human beings, who just have a different point of view, which since relationships of sorts can be formed, would reduce the general "fuckyouyourwrongedness" of the other general threads.


Unfortunately it is the lockings and clean up that have caused them to consider shuttering TET like the Wombat.


Indeed.

Taoju wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.

Then don't rehash 'em.

Encourage other topics instead of cracking down on small and trivial... Offences.


Except they drag down the thread. And if they don't get pointed out, then how will people stop doing them?
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Postby Uieurnthlaal » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:46 pm

At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.
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Postby Aeken » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:46 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.

Indeed.

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Postby Grenartia » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:47 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
But the problems haven't stopped. That's why the discussion keeps getting rehashed.


The problems are LESS FREQUENT, which is good. But they will never stop. People will be people, there is no such thing as a 100% perfect thread or conversation or product or whatever it is. Stop making it look like there is.


But that doesn't mean we should stop trying because we'll never get everybody who's doing it to stop. And if we let it go uncountered, it'll just flare up again.
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Postby Gidgetisms » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:47 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Gidgetisms wrote:by rehashing it, you're just compounding the problem.


You can't fix a problem in a group until you point out there is one.

New Maldorainia wrote:
Unfortunately it is the lockings and clean up that have caused them to consider shuttering TET like the Wombat.


Indeed.

Taoju wrote:Then don't rehash 'em.

Encourage other topics instead of cracking down on small and trivial... Offences.


Except they drag down the thread. And if they don't get pointed out, then how will people stop doing them?

hun, ethel put something on moderation, can we just agree to wait until they make a decision?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:48 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
last week or two? its been the last 30 fucking pages


I know, what I am saying is that it's been almost every other TET that we have this talk lately, and it's getting to a point where it's just getting tiring.


i completely agree, but i think that is a management issue. not a gren issue. when it gets real stupid i will say something, hell i have seen you say something (and for that i say "thank you, god bless you and keep you"). My point is you cant blame gren for doing what he was asked by management to do.
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--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:49 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
The problems are LESS FREQUENT, which is good. But they will never stop. People will be people, there is no such thing as a 100% perfect thread or conversation or product or whatever it is. Stop making it look like there is.


But that doesn't mean we should stop trying because we'll never get everybody who's doing it to stop. And if we let it go uncountered, it'll just flare up again.


However, it doesn't mean this same talk has to be rehashed in every. single. thread. that someone decides to go against the norm.

Again, 100% perfection in things is impossible at the logical level.
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:49 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I know, what I am saying is that it's been almost every other TET that we have this talk lately, and it's getting to a point where it's just getting tiring.


i completely agree, but i think that is a management issue. not a gren issue. when it gets real stupid i will say something, hell i have seen you say something (and for that i say "thank you, god bless you and keep you"). My point is you cant blame gren for doing what he was asked by management to do.

...so its violets fault?

I can roll with that.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:49 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.


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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Taoju » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:49 pm

Gren. Drop it. Now. Your judgement is hazed by your own zeal of perfection. Just stop. It's useless. Let it be. It's trivial. Rehashing it is useless and meaningless so long as you wish to parrot the same statements to the crowd.

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Postby 3 State Alliance » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:51 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.

And most pseudo-RP posts I encountered where pretty obviously a bunch of kids (at heart at least) messing about in a PG-13 environment... they where usually tacked on to the end of a serious post, mostly to make up for the lack of diversity in smilies.

Also this thing against 'greet spam' is a slippery slope, if every post has to be meaningful and full, then I probably wouldn't post on this forum at all.
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Postby Qazox » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:51 pm

Uieurnthlaal wrote:At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.

Exactly.
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Postby Aeken » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:52 pm

3 State Alliance wrote:
Uieurnthlaal wrote:At least ten times as much space is being taken up by the rehashed arguments about greet spam and pseudo-RP posts than the greet spam and pseudo-RP posts themselves.

And most pseudo-RP posts I encountered where pretty obviously a bunch of kids (at heart at least) messing about in a PG-13 environment... they where usually tacked on to the end of a serious post, mostly to make up for the lack of diversity in smilies.

Also this thing against 'greet spam' is a slippery slope, if every post has to be meaningful and full, then I probably wouldn't post on this forum at all.

I concur with that last bit. I'm hardly contributive and meaningful.

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Postby 3 State Alliance » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:54 pm

Aeken wrote:
3 State Alliance wrote:And most pseudo-RP posts I encountered where pretty obviously a bunch of kids (at heart at least) messing about in a PG-13 environment... they where usually tacked on to the end of a serious post, mostly to make up for the lack of diversity in smilies.

Also this thing against 'greet spam' is a slippery slope, if every post has to be meaningful and full, then I probably wouldn't post on this forum at all.

I concur with that last bit. I'm hardly contributive and meaningful.

this might be one of my longest posts on a TET ever... :blush:
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Postby The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:54 pm

Aeken wrote:
3 State Alliance wrote:And most pseudo-RP posts I encountered where pretty obviously a bunch of kids (at heart at least) messing about in a PG-13 environment... they where usually tacked on to the end of a serious post, mostly to make up for the lack of diversity in smilies.

Also this thing against 'greet spam' is a slippery slope, if every post has to be meaningful and full, then I probably wouldn't post on this forum at all.

I concur with that last bit. I'm hardly contributive and meaningful.

I wouldn't say that so proudly...
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Postby Grenartia » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:55 pm

Aeken wrote:
3 State Alliance wrote:And most pseudo-RP posts I encountered where pretty obviously a bunch of kids (at heart at least) messing about in a PG-13 environment... they where usually tacked on to the end of a serious post, mostly to make up for the lack of diversity in smilies.

Also this thing against 'greet spam' is a slippery slope, if every post has to be meaningful and full, then I probably wouldn't post on this forum at all.

I concur with that last bit. I'm hardly contributive and meaningful.


I'm not asking for a literary critique of War and Peace. Hell, the standards I'm asking everybody to follow aren't very high. Just try to contribute to an ongoing discussion or try to start a new one. Just as long as its more than "hi".
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Postby Gidgetisms » Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:56 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Aeken wrote:I concur with that last bit. I'm hardly contributive and meaningful.


I'm not asking for a literary critique of War and Peace. Hell, the standards I'm asking everybody to follow aren't very high. Just try to contribute to an ongoing discussion or try to start a new one. Just as long as its more than "hi".

but how do you begin a conversation? You say hi. It's protocol in any language.
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