TET: A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away

[Uieurnthlaal]

To within a few misplaced bodily organs and hormones, sort of.

If you perceive yourself as a female and are a lesbian, being in a male body doesn't make you a straight male.

But what if you were female and lesbian, and then decided to become FtM transgender?

[Yoite]

Oky

But my idea is still an interesting concept

OMG, I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier.

If you were FTM you wouldn't be a lesbian, so yes, you would be a straight male.

[Hladgos]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

Tea is nice though, unless you're into construction.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

If you're a young female in the Netherlands, without children, and you're looking for a job, you're expected to get children - so they won't take you for the job.

See, things can be worse!

[Big Jim P]

You sir are no LG.

I'm guessing this is short for a name?

Lunatic Goofballs.

[Grenartia]

Nongendered pronouns make life easy. *nods*

Indeed. In addition to useful when someone like Gren doesn't want to be referred to by a gendered pronoun, it also gives us something to use when gender is unspecified/uncertain. It also avoids the whole "male as default" issue on the internet.

I've heard plenty of people use 'they' for unspecified/uncertain gender as well.

[Gallade]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

What, no sammiches?

*ducks and runs*

You get castrated first.

[Uieurnthlaal]

OMG, I can't believe I didn't think of this earlier.

If you were FTM you wouldn't be a lesbian, so yes, you would be a straight male.

I be confuse. Question not clear, teacher.

[Big Jim P]

Indeed. In addition to useful when someone like Gren doesn't want to be referred to by a gendered pronoun, it also gives us something to use when gender is unspecified/uncertain. It also avoids the whole "male as default" issue on the internet.

I've heard plenty of people use 'they' for unspecified/uncertain gender as well.

Good point.

[Gallup]

I'm guessing this is short for a name?

Lunatic Goofballs.

Oh, that makes more sense.

[Yoite]

If you perceive yourself as a female and are a lesbian, being in a male body doesn't make you a straight male.

But what if you were female and lesbian, and then decided to become FtM transgender?

You don't just "decide"

First of all.

And then this.

If you were FTM you wouldn't be a lesbian, so yes, you would be a straight male.

[Leningrad Union]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

Are you living in Ireland, lad?

[Hladgos]

I'm guessing this is short for a name?

Lunatic Goofballs.

I will test his testicular pain responses then.

[Divair]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

But remember kids, we're in a post-sexism culture. Or some such bullshit.

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

Lunatic Goofballs.

I will test his testicular pain responses then.

And then we shall see if he is one of us.

[Grenartia]

1. Sex is not gender.

2. I'm aware. However, all I care about is not being beaten, being denied a job for who I am, and not being referred to with the wrong pronouns.

3. No its not. See my post in response to his.

So being beaten and not getting a job is the same as being referred to by the wrong name?

Yes, in the sense that all three are symptoms of the denial of my basic human dignity.

[Yoite]

If you were FTM you wouldn't be a lesbian, so yes, you would be a straight male.

I be confuse. Question not clear, teacher.

A lesbian is a woman attracted to women, yes?

Well if you are an FTM transgender then you identify as a man, not a woman, so you would not be a lesbian.

[Big Jim P]

What, no sammiches?

*ducks and runs*

You get castrated first.

*Grabs the boys and shifts into high gear*

Watch out everybody! Terrified man coming through!

[Gallup]

So being beaten and not getting a job is the same as being referred to by the wrong name?

Yes, in the sense that all three are symptoms of the denial of my basic human dignity.

They are just words. Cool it.

[Uieurnthlaal]

But what if you were female and lesbian, and then decided to become FtM transgender?

You don't just "decide"

First of all.

And then this.

If you were FTM you wouldn't be a lesbian, so yes, you would be a straight male.

So would a female MtF lesbian just be in the same category as a straight male? Very similar, but the only difference being gender identity?

[Hladgos]

I will test his testicular pain responses then.

And then we shall see if he is one of us.

One of us, one of us.

*crushes your testicles lovingly*

[The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness]

And then we shall see if he is one of us.

One of us, one of us.

*crushes your testicles lovingly*

Hooray!

One of us!

[Uieurnthlaal]

No matter what your job description or pay rank, if you are female in Ireland you will inevitably be expected to make tea and coffee for the male bigwigs and their five hour meetings that don't do anything productive.

Grumble grumble.

Are you living in Ireland, lad?

"Lad".
Gallade is living in Ireland, and moved from France a while ago.

[Big Jim P]

I will test his testicular pain responses then.

And then we shall see if he is one of us.

I admire y'alls testicular fortitude, but y'all are challenging a Legend among the testicularly gifted.

[Hladgos]

Well, off to listen to classical music. See y'all lat'r!