TET: Now With Giant Isopods!

[The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel]

It's definitely an improvement to my previously horrendous face.
OH WELL RUIN MY DREAMS THANKS

Ask him again on New Year's.
Also get Lian's!

Don't forget Maldo's, Big Jim's, Div's, Nap's, Therns', Qaz's, Anges' and Gidges' signatures.

[New Maldorainia]

I just mean is that it is not free, because someone is paying for it at some point.

But not specifically for the health care. Anyway, who cares? I'd rather pay with taxes than pay at the point of care.

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

[Vareiln]

Ah, that stinging moment when you realize just how uneducated/unintelligent you are.

[Thafoo]

I would have ended my own life in that traffic jam if there wasn't a radio station that was like if 96.5 (KRBZ) had asexually reproduced a child that was more tolerant of rap and techno. Of course, they still played all the songs I love in KC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KYSR is great apparently.

[Qazox]

You can get very good care in the US. The health insurance system sucks, though less badly than it did before the ACA. Being dropped because you got sick, having lifetime caps on coverage, denial for pre-existing conditions, that was really ridiculous.

I agree doing away with pre-existing conditions, but I want tort reform as well.

All tort reform is a way for insurance companies to screw people over more.

[Farnhamia]

But not specifically for the health care. Anyway, who cares? I'd rather pay with taxes than pay at the point of care.

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

Uh huh. I like you so I'll ignore that.

[Taoju]

I will. I have still yet to read Sun Yat-Sen's Three Principles though.

Just his main works or the entire thesis? If it's the latter, that's going to take you a while. 1) Democracy, 2) Nationalism/Populism, and 3) Welfare in Food, Clothing, Housing and Transportation. ^^

True. Fight fire with more fire?

Which I find counter intuitive. Taoist philosophy seems to align with the Buddhist way of life far more than Kongzi's fruits of wisdom.

I just find that sticking to Confucian values (Japan and South Korea, looking at you) is a bit counterproductive. And mainly because I believe in flow and peace, and Kongzi's values seem to wage war on the natural way of things by building an unnatural social order that conflicts strongly against present society.

Which is why organizations like the Confucius Society and Confucian University are reviewing his works in a different light to try and modernize them and single out what no longer applies. cx Schools in Taiwan and Guangzhou still hail him as the father of all Oriental scholarship. cx You are right though, that in many ways it does not conflict with what is perceived to be modern society. We are reminded though that he head his own ideals for what modern society would be, and it just happens to differ greatly from the western POV or the liberal perspective. Harmony as Eastern Asia would have it is achieved through propriety; through people knowing their place and acting accordingly from there on. Cultural relativism. ^^

As for the underlined statement, this is disputed. he /did/ heavily base his works off the Yijing and the Book of Odes, so it would almost be calling those unnatural as well. o/ I do not know much about the Odes, but the Yijing did a pretty good job of synthesizing what not only Confucius would, but even Laotze, Zhuangze, Mencius, Sun Tzu and Da Mo (upon founding Shaolin Temple) would use as the basis for their own philosophies. ^^

Sun Yatsen, a true revolutionary leader~

I mean harmony is good. Just that the Confucian way of ataining such harmony is a bit unnatural and too rigid to be even described as harmonious. I applaud those that do attempt to modernize his works though, while I do respect his works, I disapprove of much of them. And I would call it relativism. It's cultural and political dissonance. It's this dissonance that makes it hard for people to understand each other East and West.

Well I guess being unnatural is better than the alternative, however, I isn't really suitable to designate an unharmonious mean to achieve a harmonious result. The means to get to the ends seems unusual. Maybe it's an internal dissonance for me, since I envision harmony as a flowing concept. They did base their philosophies from Kongzi's works, but gave their own unique flair.

[Thafoo]

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

Uh huh. I like you so I'll ignore that.

Good decision. After a day of hard exercise and Los Angeles traffic jams, I wish for TET to be fluffy like icing.

[Qazox]

Good sir/madam.

@BigJimP: nite then dude.

Oh by jove. I am a gentleman, not a lady good sir.

Ah, my fine fellow, one should never assume, until told.

[Gallowfield]

Ask him again on New Year's.
Also get Lian's!

Don't forget Maldo's, Big Jim's, Div's, Nap's, Therns', Qaz's, Anges' and Gidges' signatures.

What are we collecting signatures for?

[New Maldorainia]

I agree doing away with pre-existing conditions, but I want tort reform as well.

All tort reform is a way for insurance companies to screw people over more.

Actually it helped in Texas, brought in an influx of new doctors and our health care industry improved.

[Meritocratic States]

But not specifically for the health care. Anyway, who cares? I'd rather pay with taxes than pay at the point of care.

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

Legalized theft, you say?

How can governments, in local and Federal levels, operate without taxes?

[Vareiln]

I would have ended my own life in that traffic jam if there wasn't a radio station that was like if 96.5 (KRBZ) had asexually reproduced a child that was more tolerant of rap and techno. Of course, they still played all the songs I love in KC. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KYSR is great apparently.

Er... What?

[Taoju]

But not specifically for the health care. Anyway, who cares? I'd rather pay with taxes than pay at the point of care.

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

Strawman.

Burn, pls.

[Qazox]

Ask him again on New Year's.
Also get Lian's!

Don't forget Maldo's, Big Jim's, Div's, Nap's, Therns', Qaz's, Anges' and Gidges' signatures.

What?

don't involve me, especially since I have no idea what you're talking about.

[New Maldorainia]

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

Legalized theft, you say?

How can governments, in local and Federal levels, operate without taxes?

Before 1913 the US Federal government operated without income tax.

[Luxew]

Ask him again on New Year's.
Also get Lian's!

Don't forget Maldo's, Big Jim's, Div's, Nap's, Therns', Qaz's, Anges' and Gidges' signatures.

Stern's, Mine, Vaaxon's, Aeken's, Sci's, Kapao's, Nabe's, etc.

[Iustus Sumus]

Just his main works or the entire thesis? If it's the latter, that's going to take you a while. 1) Democracy, 2) Nationalism/Populism, and 3) Welfare in Food, Clothing, Housing and Transportation. ^^

Which is why organizations like the Confucius Society and Confucian University are reviewing his works in a different light to try and modernize them and single out what no longer applies. cx Schools in Taiwan and Guangzhou still hail him as the father of all Oriental scholarship. cx You are right though, that in many ways it does not conflict with what is perceived to be modern society. We are reminded though that he head his own ideals for what modern society would be, and it just happens to differ greatly from the western POV or the liberal perspective. Harmony as Eastern Asia would have it is achieved through propriety; through people knowing their place and acting accordingly from there on. Cultural relativism. ^^

As for the underlined statement, this is disputed. he /did/ heavily base his works off the Yijing and the Book of Odes, so it would almost be calling those unnatural as well. o/ I do not know much about the Odes, but the Yijing did a pretty good job of synthesizing what not only Confucius would, but even Laotze, Zhuangze, Mencius, Sun Tzu and Da Mo (upon founding Shaolin Temple) would use as the basis for their own philosophies. ^^

Basically my policies!
Is it beautiful in Japan right now?

It's definitely an improvement to my previously horrendous face.
OH WELL RUIN MY DREAMS THANKS

Ask him again on New Year's.
Also get Lian's!

Good, no comment on my self hatred, you didn't notice.

And idk who Lian is but

LIAN! HI! AUTOGRAPH??

[New haven america]

But not specifically for the health care. Anyway, who cares? I'd rather pay with taxes than pay at the point of care.

Maldo is a libertarian, so I view taxes as legalized theft.

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[The Revolutionary Fighters of Intel]

Don't forget Maldo's, Big Jim's, Div's, Nap's, Therns', Qaz's, Anges' and Gidges' signatures.

What are we collecting signatures for?

Someone's face.

Ooh that reminds me. Don't forget Gallow's, Soldati's, Taoju's, Farn's, Varelin's, Merit's and Thafoo's

[Meritocratic States]

Legalized theft, you say?

How can governments, in local and Federal levels, operate without taxes?

Before 1913 the US Federal government operated without income tax.

Then where will the funds come from then?

[Taoju]

whoa my grammar slipped

What are we collecting signatures for?

Someone's face.

Ooh that reminds me. Don't forget Gallow's, Soldati's, Taoju's, Farn's, Varelin's and Thafoo's

Huh wat

[Gallowfield]

What are we collecting signatures for?

Someone's face.

Ooh that reminds me. Don't forget Gallow's, Soldati's, Taoju's, Farn's, Varelin's and Thafoo's

Whose face are we getting? I want a new face. The one I have now has too much dry skin and stress lines

[New Maldorainia]

Before 1913 the US Federal government operated without income tax.

Then where will the funds come from then?

Tariffs, set at a low rate, and with less money, we can shed excess government agencies, and try and make them live within their means.

[Meritocratic States]

And idk who Lian is but

LIAN! HI! AUTOGRAPH??

Lian's not online right now.