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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:33 pm

Thori wrote:
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Is heterosexuality a lifestyle as well then?

Yep


So why does this matter?
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:33 pm

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Fascist Russian Empire wrote:#Judaism #JewishHolyLaw #TheTorah

That isn't the Bible. The five books of Moses are the Torah, which is Jewish scripture and has nothing to do with Christianity.

It's apart of the Holy Bible, specifically the Old Testament...so yeah...it kinda does.

No, it kinda doesn't. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that the old law was fulfilled with the coming of Christ and has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with Christianity.

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Postby Agritum » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:34 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Agritum wrote:I wish it would be.

I mean, it would be cool to have straight pride parades where you can actually find nice girls (guys for the girls) to hook up with, rather than just some angry, gay-hating conservatives.

Hmm. Maybe we should start setting stuff like that up. "Straight and Proud But We Don't Hate for Who You Bang".

I've seen similar sub-parades during Gay Prides. They tend to blend with the Straight Ally wagons.

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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:35 pm

Alvaria and Cagwenyn wrote: Marriage is a union for the purpose of procreation, last time I checked,


Where exactly did you check? Because your books seem to be spewing a lot of bullshit.

Yes, I want the exact quote, author, title, edition and ISBN.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:35 pm

Northern Vermont wrote:Yes I believe it should be legal. Preventing gays from getting married is wrong. Love is Love, no matter what gender, race, etc.


But Homosexuality isn't natural. The entire reason we have genders is to sexually reproduce, and obviously same sex couples can't naturally carry on their genes. Gay men can't at all, and Lesbians only can due to artificial insemination.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:35 pm

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Wisconsin9 wrote:Hmm. Maybe we should start setting stuff like that up. "Straight and Proud But We Don't Hate for Who You Bang".

I've seen similar sub-parades during Gay Prides. They tend to blend with the Straight Ally wagons.

You know, I don't really get why LGBT people still use the term "straight". Using that would imply that heterosexuality is the normal sexuality and non-heterosexuals are abnormal.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:36 pm

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Northern Vermont wrote:Yes I believe it should be legal. Preventing gays from getting married is wrong. Love is Love, no matter what gender, race, etc.


But Homosexuality isn't natural. The entire reason we have genders is to sexually reproduce, and obviously same sex couples can't naturally carry on their genes. Gay men can't at all, and Lesbians only can due to artificial insemination.

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Postby Malacium » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:36 pm

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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:36 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:No, there is no explicit condemnation of homosexuality found anywhere within the Bible.

Here's one: Leviticus 18:22

That offers condemnation of two men lying together in the bed of woman, which can either be taken as the cultural significance of a woman's bed as separate from that of a man's or to condemn the practice of having sexual relations with a man in the bed of your wife, which would be a condemnation of adultery more than anything else. No, there is no explicit condemnation of homosexuality itself, just practices that would otherwise be considered sinful at the time that happened to be occuring between members of the same sex.
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Postby Thori » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm

Blasveck wrote:
Thori wrote:Yep


So why does this matter?

You tell me. You're the one who questioned me in the first place. Frankly I didn't expect people to question my term referring to lifestyle.
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Postby Republic of Greater America » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm

No. Gay people should not be subject to the torture called marriage. inb4modsmuteme

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Postby Destiny Island » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm

Sometimes I'm scared to tell people I'm a christian on here. Even if I do support gay marriage.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Northern Vermont wrote:Yes I believe it should be legal. Preventing gays from getting married is wrong. Love is Love, no matter what gender, race, etc.


But Homosexuality isn't natural. The entire reason we have genders is to sexually reproduce, and obviously same sex couples can't naturally carry on their genes. Gay men can't at all, and Lesbians only can due to artificial insemination.

I don't see why it matters whether it's natural or not. Your computer isn't natural. Your house isn't natural. A good 90% of everything you have ever used isn't natural. But this, this is the single allegedly unnatural thing that we can't allow.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:37 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No, it kinda doesn't. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that the old law was fulfilled with the coming of Christ and has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with Christianity.


You're defeating your own argument.

So even though you admitted the Old Testament is filled with the coming of CHRIST, it still has nothing to do with CHRISTianity? Also, if it has nothing to do with Christianity, than why is it in the Christian Bible?
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:
But Homosexuality isn't natural. The entire reason we have genders is to sexually reproduce, and obviously same sex couples can't naturally carry on their genes. Gay men can't at all, and Lesbians only can due to artificial insemination.

Your computer isn't natural. Your house isn't natural.

Why not, exactly? The making of all of those things requires substances found in nature and humans are natural.
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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:I don't see why it matters whether it's natural or not. Your computer isn't natural. Your house isn't natural. A good 90% of everything you have ever used isn't natural. But this, this is the single allegedly unnatural thing that we can't allow.


But those objects are not living things.
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Postby Agritum » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:38 pm

Destiny Island wrote:Sometimes I'm scared to tell people I'm a christian on here. Even if I do support gay marriage.

Don't be afraid of declaring your religion, man. If there's something that irks me, it's the people who think that Christian = automatically against LGBT equality.

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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:39 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No, it kinda doesn't. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that the old law was fulfilled with the coming of Christ and has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with Christianity.


You're defeating your own argument.

So even though you admitted the Old Testament is filled with the coming of CHRIST, it still has nothing to do with CHRISTianity? Also, if it has nothing to do with Christianity, than why is it in the Christian Bible?

Someone put it there. It was a compilation of religious texts discovered throughout history and put together.
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Postby Destiny Island » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:39 pm

Agritum wrote:
Destiny Island wrote:Sometimes I'm scared to tell people I'm a christian on here. Even if I do support gay marriage.

Don't be afraid of declaring your religion, man. If there's something that irks me, it's the people who think that Christian = automatically against LGBT equality.

I'm not, have you read my sig? Specifically the religion spoiler.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:39 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No, it kinda doesn't. If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know that the old law was fulfilled with the coming of Christ and has abso-fucking-lutely nothing to do with Christianity.


You're defeating your own argument.

So even though you admitted the Old Testament is filled with the coming of CHRIST, it still has nothing to do with CHRISTianity? Also, if it has nothing to do with Christianity, than why is it in the Christian Bible?

:palm:

I said it was fulfilled. Do you know what the word fulfilled means? Christ's coming ended the relevance of the Old Testament's laws, and just because the OT is still wasting space in the Bible that doesn't make it holy.

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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:39 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Northern Vermont wrote:Yes I believe it should be legal. Preventing gays from getting married is wrong. Love is Love, no matter what gender, race, etc.


But Homosexuality isn't natural. The entire reason we have genders is to sexually reproduce, and obviously same sex couples can't naturally carry on their genes. Gay men can't at all, and Lesbians only can due to artificial insemination.

Using your computer and the internet is not natural. Please stop now.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:40 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote: Your computer isn't natural. Your house isn't natural.

Why not, exactly?

You show me a computer that was constructed without human involvement at any level and I will gladly take back what I said. A plastic and silicon computer, not one like our brains.
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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:40 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:I don't see why it matters whether it's natural or not. Your computer isn't natural. Your house isn't natural. A good 90% of everything you have ever used isn't natural. But this, this is the single allegedly unnatural thing that we can't allow.


But those objects are not living things.

GM food isn't natural, the mule is unnatural and they are living.
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Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
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Postby Carto-Geography » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:40 pm

Aequalitia wrote:
Carto-Geography wrote:I see that you follow the European Model of the world, which treats humans as bags of cells that should be made as happy as possible before they die, which isn't a big deal in the EM, because the EM doesn't believe in God or morality. If you can prove that you do not follow that model, I would be glad.

So if you god says you should harm all woman, would you then allow and do that?

Because you god told that?

But got any proof you god then told that besides from just a book who is not even written by god?!


But that's irrelevant because God never told anyone to harm women, just because they are women. Yes, he has had evil women killed, but also evil men. By the way, you might want to freshen up on your English, Dutchman. Its "your" not "you", "God" not "god" and "women" not "woman", and that's before you add in the nonsensical sentence structure.
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