Mod-Sanctioned LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Fascist Russian Empire]

If the view that queer* and trans* people and what they do is inferior is not the cause for homophobic violence, then what is it? You know, hate crimes against black people diminished when they were turned equal before the law and racism (that also had justifications based on religion previously, mind you!) turned into a taboo.

There is no such thing as "being black". There is nothing that black people do that makes them black. However, homosexual behavior is an action, and viewing such behavior is immoral does not lead automatically lead to violence against homosexuals.

Would you stop using "homosexual behavior"? Seriously, stop that shit. Homosexuality ain't a behavior any more than heterosexuality is. Oh, and a guy and a girl fucking is an action, but you don't see us having bigoted opinions about it, so stop saying shit about two guys fucking being immoral.

[Aeken]

But it has.

Sure, do some people commit violence against homosexuals, but you act this is the rule, which is not.

Rephrase.

[Tekania]

No, I'm not. Again, I believe this proves my point that the goal of homosexual activists did not end at "equal treatment" by governments and business, but change the deeply held religious beliefs of citizens. I don't understand how homosexual behavior is equal to someone skin colour. notice I did NOT say "attraction" or "orientation"

Just like ending slavery and making African Americans citizens has the goal of changing deeply held religious beliefs of citizens.

Or not, and you're making shit up.

I think I can state this the most simple when I state that, people have a right to their religious beliefs, but not a right to force them on others. Slavery, jim-crow, antimiscegenation, and legal oppositon to same-sex civil marriage are primary examples of forcing religious beliefs on others.

[The Traditional Catholic Papal States]

Sorry, but comparing slavery to the idea that people won't view homosexual behavior as an expression of love as equal.

I have no idea what this means.

Could you fix this so that it makes coherent sense?

You brought up slavery, which an entirely different topic then the goal of homosexual activists, which their admitted goal is to change people's perspective on homosexual behavior

[New Frenco Empire]

I'd say no, considering most of us are trying to stay true to the topic at hand. Which is LGBT RIGHTS AND ISSUES. If someone's comments really piss you off so badly, TG them or something.

Is that why you deliberately attribute false claims to others?

/threadjack

Anything to get the last word in, eh?

Just get over it and take it to TGs. Please.

[Grenartia]

No, but I did live there, so I do have a pretty good grasp on public opinion there, and for the most part, there's less inherent objection to it than there is in Utah. Besides, the big voter blocks are in the major cities, which as I said, do have significant pro-LGBT views. Especially New Orleans.

Baton Rouge also has a majority support for same sex marriage, IIRC.

I'm not all that surprised. Now, if, say, Bogalusa did, I would be. But then again, Bogalusa is a fairly small town.

[Vettrera]

If the view that queer* and trans* people and what they do is inferior is not the cause for homophobic violence, then what is it? You know, hate crimes against black people diminished when they were turned equal before the law and racism (that also had justifications based on religion previously, mind you!) turned into a taboo.

There is no such thing as "being black". There is nothing that black people do that makes them black. However, homosexual behavior is an action, and viewing such behavior is immoral does not lead automatically lead to violence against homosexuals.

Simply "Being Black" was grounds to have a lot of things done to you back in the day....do act dense

[The Traditional Catholic Papal States]

Sure, do some people commit violence against homosexuals, but you act this is the rule, which is not.

Rephrase.

Some people do commit violence against homosexuals, but this is NOT THE RULE.

[Arumdaum]

What's next. Pardons for pedophiles?

Are you being serious?

[Astograth]

Just like ending slavery and making African Americans citizens has the goal of changing deeply held religious beliefs of citizens.

Or not, and you're making shit up.

Sorry, but comparing slavery to the idea that people won't view homosexual behavior as an expression of love as equal.

Sorry, but thinking that people that in no way harm others are not deserving of the same rights as you because you don't and won't understand them, is ridiculous.

[Mavorpen]

I have no idea what this means.

Could you fix this so that it makes coherent sense?

You brought up slavery, which an entirely different topic then the goal of homosexual activists, which their admitted goal is to change people's perspective on homosexual behavior

Sorry, but I haven't seen anyone admit that. You shouldn't make arguments based off of imaginary opponents.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

But it has.

Sure, do some people commit violence against homosexuals, but you act this is the rule, which is not.

How do you know?

People beat on their children to make them comply with their views of standards of morals through oppressive discipline. They still did it with girls who lost their virginity until not much ago. It is still not a taboo in your or my country.

How can you tell parents did not psychologically abuse or even cast out their children from their families as a common practice?

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Just like ending slavery and making African Americans citizens has the goal of changing deeply held religious beliefs of citizens.

Or not, and you're making shit up.

Sorry, but comparing slavery to the idea that people won't view homosexual behavior as an expression of love as equal.

Homosexual subservience to heterosexuals IS similar to black people to subservient to white people.

[The Norgan Alliance]

Sorry, but comparing slavery to the idea that people won't view homosexual behavior as an expression of love as equal.

Homosexual subservience to heterosexuals IS similar to black people to subservient to white people.

When did this enter the conversation?

[Astograth]

But it has.

Sure, do some people commit violence against homosexuals, but you act this is the rule, which is not.

I'm sorry, but making people who don't harm others think they are unnatural and immoral is extremely violent.

[The Traditional Catholic Papal States]

There is no such thing as "being black". There is nothing that black people do that makes them black. However, homosexual behavior is an action, and viewing such behavior is immoral does not lead automatically lead to violence against homosexuals.

Simply "Being Black" was grounds to have a lot of things done to you back in the day....do act dense

That is not what I said. There is not any action that makes anyone black or any ethnic group. But viewing people that have a different skin colour than you as less than human and believing that homosexual behavior is not act of love is not the same.

[Vettrera]

Rephrase.

Some people do commit violence against homosexuals, but this is NOT THE RULE.

So, in your mind. What rights should gays have, and what rights shouldn't they have?
And what makes gays different than any other types of sinners like you and me. Why do we deserve more rights than them, when we both sin?

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Homosexual subservience to heterosexuals IS similar to black people to subservient to white people.

When did this enter the conversation?

Homosexuals not being equal to heterosexuals is the same thing as homosexuality being subservient to heterosexuality.

[Tekania]

What's next. Pardons for pedophiles?

No.

[Aeken]

Rephrase.

Some people do commit violence against homosexuals, but this is NOT THE RULE.

That doesn't matter. People still use it as more justification for hatred against LGBT's.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Simply "Being Black" was grounds to have a lot of things done to you back in the day....do act dense

That is not what I said. There is not any action that makes anyone black or any ethnic group. But viewing people that have a different skin colour than you as less than human and believing that homosexual behavior is not act of love is not the same.

Yes there is. It's called fucking and having kids.

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

That is not what I said. There is not any action that makes anyone black or any ethnic group. But viewing people that have a different skin colour than you as less than human and believing that homosexual behavior is not act of love is not the same.

Yes there is. It's called fucking and having kids.

They, just like us Latin Americans, were also stereotyped through cultures, societal norms, dialects and accents across cultures, often based in truth.

[The Traditional Catholic Papal States]

Sure, do some people commit violence against homosexuals, but you act this is the rule, which is not.

How do you know?

People beat on their children to make them comply with their views of standards of morals through oppressive discipline. They still did it with girls who lost their virginity until not much ago. It is still not a taboo in your or my country.

How can you tell parents did not psychologically abuse or even cast out their children from their families as a common practice?

Which country do I live in? And again, your jumping around. The tread title is "Mod-Sanctioned LGBT Rights & Issues Thread", not how "parents oppress their children"

[Farnhamia]

What's next. Pardons for pedophiles?

No.

Alan Turing thread rolled into here.

[The Traditional Catholic Papal States]

Some people do commit violence against homosexuals, but this is NOT THE RULE.

That doesn't matter. People still use it as more justification for hatred against LGBT's.

And? Some people unjust violence for many reasons. And I don't hate homosexuals.