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by Sibirsky » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:34 pm
by Grenartia » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:34 pm
KISS Nation wrote:I reject the notion that young children can choose/were born with/whatever different genders than their sex. We must consider everyone to have the same sex as their gender initially, and when they reach the age of majority they can do whatever they want.
KISS Nation wrote:Tekania wrote:
It's okay that you believe that.... Licensed and trained professionals who have studies these sorts of things disagree with your opinion. As such, I take the suggestions and finding of professionals over laymen.
I'd hate to live in a world where I have to worry about calling a kid "little boy" and he shouts back at me that he considers himself a girl. Assume that people's sex=gender. I mean, the vast majority of people are. It's the same as assuming people are heterosexual.
The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:Menassa wrote:I assume the Jews are a protected class as well, and making antisemitic statements about Jews based off religious belief is as well an issue.
I don't really compare the history of the Jews to the "struggle" of homosexuals, but I would not condone it but, antisemitic statements based on religion is still protected speech.
by Arumdaum » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:35 pm
by Sibirsky » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:35 pm
New Frenco Empire wrote:Sibirsky wrote:
1. I did not claim that capitalism eliminated poverty.
2. I claimed capitalism has reduced poverty. That's a fact.
3. Africa is not capitalist.
4. Hundreds of millions of people have been lifted out of poverty in Asia, by capitalism.
5. Maybe you should not say things that's not relevant to the thread?
You're knowingly escalating the threadjack. This is about LGBT rights and issues, not why the free market is so flawless or whatever.
by The Traditional Catholic Papal States » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:36 pm
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:
Again, your not understanding my point. And they are not killed for "being gay", they are killed for homosexual behavior, and that is unjust. But I well say it again, I, and many "homophobes" don't view someone's sexual act or their attractions as part of their identity.
Yes, because "homosexual behavior" is so totally bad. Yes, having sex with another man, or thinking about guys while you masturbate, is so God damn bad. Oh, it's the end of the world! Oh, if we allow it then Satan shall return!
by Sibirsky » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:36 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Anyone know the next places that are going to legalize same-sex marriage?
by New Frenco Empire » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:37 pm
by The Traditional Catholic Papal States » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:37 pm
Grenartia wrote:KISS Nation wrote:I reject the notion that young children can choose/were born with/whatever different genders than their sex. We must consider everyone to have the same sex as their gender initially, and when they reach the age of majority they can do whatever they want.
Which hurts trans* children psychologically. Many of us KNOW from a young age that we're not the gender typically associated with our sex.KISS Nation wrote: I'd hate to live in a world where I have to worry about calling a kid "little boy" and he shouts back at me that he considers himself a girl. Assume that people's sex=gender. I mean, the vast majority of people are. It's the same as assuming people are heterosexual.
If you think that being expected to use common fucking courtesy is a bad thing, then maybe we should pursue convincing people to use it even more.
Also, I have very serious concerns about you knowing a child's sex if you're not their doctor or family member.The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:
I don't really compare the history of the Jews to the "struggle" of homosexuals, but I would not condone it but, antisemitic statements based on religion is still protected speech.
If you think that our struggle isn't real and comparable to the struggles of other minorities who've historically been persecuted for no legitimate reason, then you have problems with accepting reality.KISS Nation wrote:Hey, if people want to be a girl or whatever, that's cool, but let's not make up new genders to describe it.
Except, its not "making up new genders". Its recognizing ones that already fucking exist.
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:37 pm
The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yes, because "homosexual behavior" is so totally bad. Yes, having sex with another man, or thinking about guys while you masturbate, is so God damn bad. Oh, it's the end of the world! Oh, if we allow it then Satan shall return!
I tell can tell your very hostile, but I will respond anyway. Yes, some people, such as myself don't view homosexual behavior as "natural", "good" and currently not an expression of love. And show me where I said "then Satan shall return"?
by New Frenco Empire » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:37 pm
Arumdaum wrote:Anyone know the next places that are going to legalize same-sex marriage?
by KISS Nation » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm
Grenartia wrote:Except, its not "making up new genders". Its recognizing ones that already fucking exist.
by Astograth » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm
The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yes, because "homosexual behavior" is so totally bad. Yes, having sex with another man, or thinking about guys while you masturbate, is so God damn bad. Oh, it's the end of the world! Oh, if we allow it then Satan shall return!
I tell can tell your very hostile, but I will respond anyway. Yes, some people, such as myself don't view homosexual behavior as "natural", "good" and currently not an expression of love. And show me where I said "then Satan shall return"?
by KISS Nation » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm
Pope Joan wrote:In honor of the occasion, why not grant a new trial to all convicted felons?
After all, many of them actually are what they say there are ...innocent.
by Grenartia » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:38 pm
The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:Blasveck wrote:Are you aware of the history of violence against homosexuals?
Yes, and violence against homosexuals is wrong but I don't believe that not approving of homosexual behavior is going to lead me to committing violence against an homosexual. 1. Plus, I believe in all of human history, the Jew and ethnic minorities have faced a lot of discrimination than homosexuals. 2. Plus, I don't view the goal of homosexual activists of changing the people like me opinion's on homosexuality or make us shut up are equal to voting rights for ethnic minorities or religious rights for Jews.
3. This comes down to the view that homosexual activists have that unchosen sexual orientation/attraction is equal to someone's skin color, eye color or hair color, that just because someone does not choose to have such feelings must mean someone is born with them. That is simply not true. 4. There are many characteristics that are unchosen but implanted after birth.
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:39 pm
KISS Nation wrote:Grenartia wrote:Except, its not "making up new genders". Its recognizing ones that already fucking exist.
So if I went up to someone in the medieval era, and somehow I knew their word for "gender", and I said, "hello, do you know what an agendered person is?" they would instantly be able to tell me about their cousin who was agendered and their extensive knowledge on it? These are invented genders, in addition to man and woman.
by KISS Nation » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:40 pm
Astograth wrote:The Traditional Catholic Papal States wrote:
I tell can tell your very hostile, but I will respond anyway. Yes, some people, such as myself don't view homosexual behavior as "natural", "good" and currently not an expression of love. And show me where I said "then Satan shall return"?
Is it unacceptably wrong if it does not harm anyone?
by KISS Nation » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:40 pm
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:KISS Nation wrote:So if I went up to someone in the medieval era, and somehow I knew their word for "gender", and I said, "hello, do you know what an agendered person is?" they would instantly be able to tell me about their cousin who was agendered and their extensive knowledge on it? These are invented genders, in addition to man and woman.
No it ain't. It's called a man mentally being a woman or vice-versa.
by Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Dec 23, 2013 6:41 pm
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