Mod-Sanctioned LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Geilinor]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

Are they hindering your business?

[Othelos]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

You're running a business. Why would you pass some more income?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

True but the question remains, though morally detestable, does Congress have the Authority by the Constitution to outlaw discrimination. I'ts an issue of competing rights. Though K v M held the commerce clause gave them that authority, more than likely that same precedent will be applied, but it's a discussion worth having.

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

See those two statements are contradictory.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

Make your business membership based and then you can do that.

Otherwise you really can't.

[Regnum Dominae]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

Maybe you shouldn't operate a business that serves the public, then.

[Alyakia]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

hmm. if you want to have a no gays no jews no irish business maybe we don't want your business in our country.

[Luveria]

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

You're running a business. Why would you pass some more income?

The same reason some people like to burn $20 bills.

[Sun Wukong]

I couldn't get Dresden to mind control any more legislative bodies. I'm not made of money.

Holy crap, how much did that cost?

A kennel. Long story.

[Shaggai]

You're running a business. Why would you pass some more income?

The same reason some people like to burn $20 bills.

Because they dislike Andrew Jackson?

[Verdum]

@Every responding person
Maybe I feel so strongly about something I don't want to do anything for that which I am against, whether big or small.

[Shaggai]

Holy crap, how much did that cost?

A kennel. Long story.

A... kennel? What?

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

hmm. if you want to have a no gays no jews no irish business maybe we don't want your business in our country.

Why do you assume people like us do not like Jews?

[Alyakia]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

See those two statements are contradictory.

you literally need to be told the difference between refusing a customer because they are gay and refusing a customer because they have, say, a shitty history of keeping to arrangements.

[Neutraligon]

@Every responding person
Maybe I feel so strongly about something I don't want to do anything for that which I am against, whether big or small.

This is not very clear, but then the answer is don't have a business that sells things to the public.

[Sun Wukong]

hmm. if you want to have a no gays no jews no irish business maybe we don't want your business in our country.

Why do you assume people like us do not like Jews?

Yeah. Why would anyone make that assumption?

[Luveria]

The same reason some people like to burn $20 bills.

Because they dislike Andrew Jackson?

No, it's because some people would rather watch the world burn instead of make it a better place.

[Alyakia]

hmm. if you want to have a no gays no jews no irish business maybe we don't want your business in our country.

Why do you assume people like us do not like Jews?

it's a generic placeholder in hypothetical. gays first because this is an LGBT thread obviously. unless you think i also assume that you have a burning hatred for the irish?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Actually I think that if I own a business I should be able to reject people that are something I discriminate against.
It's my business, maybe I don't want them in it.

You're running a business. Why would you pass some more income?

See, it's not about passing income, is about how much are your consumers to pay in order for you to make a desirable profit.

Sure, businesses are all about getting money, but the elite credit cards like the ones of AMEX and higher-level bank cards like the ones of Chase and Citi use certain criteria to let you in that circle of card owners, which makes it a membership-based card in a way since only few people can acquire those cards.

Also, another example is a gentlemen's club; where you are only admitted if you pass their membership requirements. Many people don't belong to these "gentlemen clubs" but the ones that do provide enough revenue to the business.

[Geilinor]

I think business owners can reject customers if they want, except based on discriminatory reasons.

See those two statements are contradictory.

No, they aren't, the second part just establishes reasonable limits.

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

Why do you assume people like us do not like Jews?

it's a generic placeholder. gays first because this is an LGBT thread obviously. unless you think i also assume that you have a burning hatred for the irish?

Excuse me, my fiancee is Irish.

[Sun Wukong]

See those two statements are contradictory.

you literally need to be told the difference between refusing a customer because they are gay and refusing a customer because they have, say, a shitty history of keeping to arrangements.

He is technically correct in the sense that you are 'discriminating' in the proper sense of the word. But it's an incredibly pedantic argument.

[Verdum]

@Every responding person
Maybe I feel so strongly about something I don't want to do anything for that which I am against, whether big or small.

This is not very clear, but then the answer is don't have a business that sells things to the public.

OK.
I don't like something, also known as I really hate something.
Something I doesn't like walks on my property, Ex business.
I tell it to leave because I don't want (blank) near me and I don't want to serve (blank).

[Sun Wukong]

it's a generic placeholder. gays first because this is an LGBT thread obviously. unless you think i also assume that you have a burning hatred for the irish?

Excuse me, my fiancee is Irish.

That the one that lives in Canada?

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

Why do you assume people like us do not like Jews?

Yeah. Why would anyone make that assumption?

I have no problem with the jew.

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

Excuse me, my fiancee is Irish.

That the one that lives in Canada?

What?

My fiancee lives here in the USA with me.

Why would I associate myself with the French canadians?