Mod-Sanctioned LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[Neutraligon]

Since equal rights often has nothing to do with taxes, this makes no sense.

That is exactly what equal rights are.

Catering to the weak.

First define weak, second, again equal rights do not always have to do with taxes, so again your statement makes no sense.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Explain

"Equal rights" means giving hand outs and special benefits to those who are lazy and incompetent, raising taxes and using money from those who work hard to earn it, and putting it into the pockets of those who do nothing.

Man, the average person would loose faith in humanity but these guys are making me chuckle.

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

"Equal rights" means giving hand outs and special benefits to those who are lazy and incompetent, raising taxes and using money from those who work hard to earn it, and putting it into the pockets of those who do nothing.

Only in the fictional universe you live in.

In reality, it means giving everybody equality of opportunity, so that people aren't fucked over for life by accident of their birth, or unavoidable accidents in life, so that they can achieve their full potential.

See: George Washington Carver, the Tuskegee Airmen, etc.

Those cases are of Negroes.

I don't believe races are inferior or superior.

[Wazkyraque]

Explain

"Equal rights" means giving hand outs and special benefits to those who are lazy and incompetent, raising taxes and using money from those who work hard to earn it, and putting it into the pockets of those who do nothing.

How did you come to the conclusion that the LGBT community lazy and incompetent and that other groups are not?

Explain how a benefit is a special benefit if it's a benefit most people have?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

An unapologetic NAZI. How quaint.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

And I paraphrase a book I read long ago:

In Nazi Germany, the experiments carried out and what they [the Nuremberg Medical Commission] found about the human experiments was so atrocious, so horribly vile that they could not use these research results.

[Blasveck]

Guys, why are you taking this guy seriously?

Nothing you say to him will change anything.

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

That is exactly what equal rights are.

Catering to the weak.

First define weak, second, again equal rights do not always have to do with taxes, so again your statement makes no sense.

In Social Darwinism, the weak are those who do not make it in the capitalist, or corporatist economic system in a nation.

Things like communism, or socialism cater to everyone, thus giving the weak what belongs to the strong.

The weak are those who do not make it, where in a corporatist, or a capitalist system if you do not make it, it is because you rejected opprotunity and embraced complacency and laziness.

Therefore they are rightfully cast out by the natural order of things, Social Darwinism.

[Llamalandia]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

You or your grandpa wouldn't happened to have any actual clinical data to back this up would either of you? you things beyond just anecedotes of happily married ex gays? You know maybe some Penile plethysmography to actually scientifically validated this "cure"? hmm

[Wazkyraque]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

If Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, it would affect the learning capabilities or memory, for example.

Would you mind explaining the above, what it was the procedure, do any lab reports of it exist, for example?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yeah, I kinda realized after thinking about accidental wasn't exactly the right term but I'm not sure maybe, incidental to birth?

Yea, that would be more or less a more accurate word to describe it.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

And I paraphrase a book I read long ago:

In Nazi Germany, the experiments carried out and what they [the Nuremberg Medical Commission] found about the human experiments was so atrocious, so horribly vile that they could not use these research results.

Except the useful ones.... Like hypothermia treatments and Asprin.

[The Broken Russian States]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

The proof is in the pudding. I would like the "Cure The Gay Away" pudding

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

"Equal rights" means giving hand outs and special benefits to those who are lazy and incompetent, raising taxes and using money from those who work hard to earn it, and putting it into the pockets of those who do nothing.

How did you come to the conclusion that the LGBT community lazy and incompetent and that other groups are not?

Explain how a benefit is a special benefit if it's a benefit most people have?

Because that benefit does not naturally belong to them, they are simply requesting it for no reason other than financial benefits.

[Grenartia]

This is somethime true but not always, more to the point how is this relevant to recognizing gay rights, unless youre implying that heterosexuals are somehow inherently superior to homosexuals/lgbt and therefor on the basis of such superiority should beable to deny them equal rights?

1. Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, 2. which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

3. In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


4. My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

5. When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

1. And the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese, amirite?
2. You can't cure something that isn't a problem. Also, you can't change sexual orientation.
3. Only if you consider death and forcing oneself back into the closet to be "cures". Which is like saying that bloodletting cures the flu.
4. Doubt it.
5. Being forced back into the closet to keep from dying isn't a cure. Its oppression.

[Neutraligon]

First define weak, second, again equal rights do not always have to do with taxes, so again your statement makes no sense.

In Social Darwinism, the weak are those who do not make it in the capitalist, or corporatist economic system in a nation.

Things like communism, or socialism cater to everyone, thus giving the weak what belongs to the strong.

The weak are those who do not make it, where in a corporatist, or a capitalist system if you do not make it, it is because you rejected opprotunity and embraced complacency and laziness.

Therefore they are rightfully cast out by the natural order of things, Social Darwinism.

Considering social darwinism is shit science (no it isn't even science) it can safely be ignored.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

Guys, why are you taking this guy seriously?

Nothing you say to him will change anything.

Cause it amuses me?

[Sun Wukong]

Austrians are Germans. And you live in the United States.

We are not Germans.

We are born in a place called Austria, that makes us Austrian.

Ethnically, we are Nordic.


Living in the liberal empire has no effect on my genetics or where I was born.

Austrians are Germans. Scandinavians are Nordic.

You just said that genetics don't matter a moment ago. And you are an American.

[Blasveck]

Guys, seriously.

We should drop it.

[Osterreichischen Faschistischen Republik]

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

Everything was destroyed when the invaders occupied and brainwashed young Germans and Austrians.
You or your grandpa wouldn't happened to have any actual clinical data to back this up would either of you? you things beyond just anecedotes of happily married ex gays? You know maybe some Penile plethysmography to actually scientifically validated this "cure"? hmm

[Llamalandia]

Homosexuality is a cognitive disorder, which has a cure but the world refuses to recognize it.

In the 1930's to the 1940's, the Germans came up with medicine and therapy to cure them, and they were cured.


My grandfather himself who served in the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler, saw the results.

When they arrested homosexuals and took them to the hospitals, months later they were reported to already having married with a woman and fathered children, etc.

And I paraphrase a book I read long ago:

In Nazi Germany, the experiments carried out and what they [the Nuremberg Medical Commission] found about the human experiments was so atrocious, so horribly vile that they could not use these research results.

Of course that didn't stop us from giving Japanese scientists a free pass in exchange for their equally inhumane expierimentations in unit 731 now did it?

[Sibirsky]

Guys, why are you taking this guy seriously?

Nothing you say to him will change anything.

That goes for 90% of the people on here, however.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And I paraphrase a book I read long ago:

In Nazi Germany, the experiments carried out and what they [the Nuremberg Medical Commission] found about the human experiments was so atrocious, so horribly vile that they could not use these research results.

Except the useful ones.... Like hypothermia treatments and Asprin.

Yea, but there were others like injecting cold air into a person's arteries and seeing how their bodies react to it, the twin experiments, and plenty of others that no medical expert after the war and the Nuremberg Trials would touch with a 10-foot pole.

[Grenartia]

Only in the fictional universe you live in.

In reality, it means giving everybody equality of opportunity, so that people aren't fucked over for life by accident of their birth, or unavoidable accidents in life, so that they can achieve their full potential.

See: George Washington Carver, the Tuskegee Airmen, etc.

Those cases are of Negroes.

I don't believe races are inferior or superior.

At the time, they were considered inferior, and yet, when given the same opportunities as their white counterparts, they excelled. That's all that giving equal rights does.

[Sun Wukong]

Guys, why are you taking this guy seriously?

Nothing you say to him will change anything.

I'm not so much feeding the troll as I am flinging peanuts at it for my own amusement.