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Postby Luveria » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:46 pm

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The people suggesting to colonize Africa are overlooking how the majority of anti-LGBT laws across Africa are leftovers from the colonial era, much like how Singapore's "barbaric" caning is a leftover law from when it was a British colony.


Ok so what? My point was the language regarding civilized vs uncivilized sounded akin to colonialism and therefore at least vaguely racist.


Yes. I was pointing out the absurdity of the pro-colonialist position because it ignores the homophobic laws across Africa largely remain the ones left in place by the British.

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Postby Luveria » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:47 pm

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Mainly the whole, "i thought we were more civilized then them aspect of it" sounds like the same justification for just about every colonization effort made on the continent. Oh, yeah, we need to colonize them because theyre primitive and uncivilized and need to have Christianity and European values forced upon them for theyre own good. ;) and again I realize you weren't trying to make a racist statement, and I'm not normally so pc about such things, the wording just struck me as questionable that's all. ;)

But I'm an imperialist with honestly ethnocentric viewpoints. I actually wouldn't mind recolonizing Africa (only after we take the Middle East, though) without the Christianity aspect. Someone's gotta set 'em straight...

Just be glad people with my views are a minority and just see Africa for the homophobic hellhole it is.


I'd support that, but I know there's no way it would gain international support, so I don't bring it up.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:53 pm

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New Frenco Empire wrote:But I'm an imperialist with honestly ethnocentric viewpoints. I actually wouldn't mind recolonizing Africa (only after we take the Middle East, though) without the Christianity aspect. Someone's gotta set 'em straight...

Just be glad people with my views are a minority and just see Africa for the homophobic hellhole it is.


I'd support that, but I know there's no way it would gain international support, so I don't bring it up.

Maybe someday. Hopefully we'll have cool gauss weapons to try out on their rusty T-55s by then!
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Postby Luveria » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:55 pm

New Frenco Empire wrote:
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I'd support that, but I know there's no way it would gain international support, so I don't bring it up.

Maybe someday. Hopefully we'll have cool gauss weapons to try out on their rusty T-55s by then!


I'd be interested in seeing the battle plans for invading Africa.

I know the war of African LGBT Liberation would be a guaranteed victory, but I am curious about how much of a steamroll it would be.

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Postby Llamalandia » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:57 pm

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Mainly the whole, "i thought we were more civilized then them aspect of it" sounds like the same justification for just about every colonization effort made on the continent. Oh, yeah, we need to colonize them because theyre primitive and uncivilized and need to have Christianity and European values forced upon them for theyre own good. ;) and again I realize you weren't trying to make a racist statement, and I'm not normally so pc about such things, the wording just struck me as questionable that's all. ;)

But I'm an imperialist with[b] honestly ethnocentric viewpoints. [/b]I actually wouldn't mind recolonizing Africa (only after we take the Middle East, though) without the Christianity aspect. Someone's gotta set 'em straight...

Just be glad people with my views are a minority and just see Africa for the homophobic hellhole it is.


oh ok, so basically what your saying is you really are more less a racist imperialist, yeah, that's not really gonna win you or your argument a lot points methinks. Unless of course youre being sarcastic in which case I would remind you there are certainly some people who actually do make racists posts now and again on NSG, so your sarcasm may be lost. ;)

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Postby Thafoo » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:58 pm

Llamalandia wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:But I'm an imperialist with[b] honestly ethnocentric viewpoints. [/b]I actually wouldn't mind recolonizing Africa (only after we take the Middle East, though) without the Christianity aspect. Someone's gotta set 'em straight...

Just be glad people with my views are a minority and just see Africa for the homophobic hellhole it is.


oh ok, so basically what your saying is you really are more less a racist imperialist, yeah, that's not really gonna win you or your argument a lot points methinks. Unless of course youre being sarcastic in which case I would remind you there are certainly some people who actually do make racists posts now and again on NSG, so your sarcasm may be lost. ;)

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:01 am

Llamalandia wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:But I'm an imperialist with[b] honestly ethnocentric viewpoints. [/b]I actually wouldn't mind recolonizing Africa (only after we take the Middle East, though) without the Christianity aspect. Someone's gotta set 'em straight...

Just be glad people with my views are a minority and just see Africa for the homophobic hellhole it is.


oh ok, so basically what your saying is you really are more less a racist imperialist, yeah, that's not really gonna win you or your argument a lot points methinks. Unless of course youre being sarcastic in which case I would remind you there are certainly some people who actually do make racists posts now and again on NSG, so your sarcasm may be lost. ;)

Ethnocentrism is not the same as racism. It isn't ideal, but I'm too culturally insensitive to see it any other way.

If it's any consolation, I think we should send tanks to Idaho, too.
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Postby Llamalandia » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:04 am

Thafoo wrote:
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oh ok, so basically what your saying is you really are more less a racist imperialist, yeah, that's not really gonna win you or your argument a lot points methinks. Unless of course youre being sarcastic in which case I would remind you there are certainly some people who actually do make racists posts now and again on NSG, so your sarcasm may be lost. ;)

I can't ;) stop ;) using ;) ;) the winking ;) ;) ;) emote

Seriously, what's with that? Use something else. Or don't use any at all.


Meh, I'll consider it btw i think there's like a limit of 2 or 3 or three smilies per post if I recall just thought I'd point that out :p

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Postby Llamalandia » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:07 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
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oh ok, so basically what your saying is you really are more less a racist imperialist, yeah, that's not really gonna win you or your argument a lot points methinks. Unless of course youre being sarcastic in which case I would remind you there are certainly some people who actually do make racists posts now and again on NSG, so your sarcasm may be lost. ;)

Ethnocentrism is not the same as racism. It isn't ideal, but I'm too culturally insensitive to see it any other way.

If it's any consolation, I think we should send tanks to Idaho, too.


And what exactly would said tanks do in Idaho exactly? Also you'll have a very hard time making a creditable case that ethnocentrism is ok at least with me and I'm guessing with many others. Also it seems your cultural insensitivity is rather selctive, that is to say you seems rather sensitive to the gay culture, but yet your saying you can be equally sensitive to the various African and Idahoan cultures? :eyebrow:

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:13 am

Llamalandia wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:Ethnocentrism is not the same as racism. It isn't ideal, but I'm too culturally insensitive to see it any other way.

If it's any consolation, I think we should send tanks to Idaho, too.


And what exactly would said tanks do in Idaho exactly? Also you'll have a very hard time making a creditable case that ethnocentrism is ok at least with me and I'm guessing with many others. Also it seems your cultural insensitivity is rather selctive, that is to say you seems rather sensitive to the gay culture, but yet your saying you can be equally sensitive to the various African and Idahoan cultures? :eyebrow:

Culture doesn't justify bigotry.

Also, what "gay culture"?
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:14 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
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And what exactly would said tanks do in Idaho exactly? Also you'll have a very hard time making a creditable case that ethnocentrism is ok at least with me and I'm guessing with many others. Also it seems your cultural insensitivity is rather selctive, that is to say you seems rather sensitive to the gay culture, but yet your saying you can be equally sensitive to the various African and Idahoan cultures? :eyebrow:

Culture doesn't justify bigotry.

Also, what "gay culture"?


It's like the mythical "trans culture" I've yet to encounter.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:15 am

Llamalandia wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:Ethnocentrism is not the same as racism. It isn't ideal, but I'm too culturally insensitive to see it any other way.

If it's any consolation, I think we should send tanks to Idaho, too.


And what exactly would said tanks do in Idaho exactly? Also you'll have a very hard time making a creditable case that ethnocentrism is ok at least with me and I'm guessing with many others. Also it seems your cultural insensitivity is rather selctive, that is to say you seems rather sensitive to the gay culture, but yet your saying you can be equally sensitive to the various African and Idahoan cultures? :eyebrow:

Homosexuality and the like isn't a "culture", it's a natural thing, comparable to skin or eye color. Since I fall into the LGBT category, I do believe that injustice to my kind should be met with force.

Also, discrimination isn't a culture either. I can tolerate different cultures (even if I think the world should be more like Western Europe or liberal America). Injustice I cannot.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:19 am

Regnum Dominae wrote:
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And what exactly would said tanks do in Idaho exactly? Also you'll have a very hard time making a creditable case that ethnocentrism is ok at least with me and I'm guessing with many others. Also it seems your cultural insensitivity is rather selctive, that is to say you seems rather sensitive to the gay culture, but yet your saying you can be equally sensitive to the various African and Idahoan cultures? :eyebrow:

Culture doesn't justify bigotry.

Also, what "gay culture"?


The culture of...fuck it, I got nothing. I would be willing to take bets that I'm nothing like the stereotypical LGBP person, in a lot of ways.
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Postby Thafoo » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:20 am

Mini Miehm wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Culture doesn't justify bigotry.

Also, what "gay culture"?


The culture of...fuck it, I got nothing. I would be willing to take bets that I'm nothing like the stereotypical LGBP person, in a lot of ways.

I'm the Gay God of this site, and I'm in no way stereotypical. No lithp. No limp wrist. No bright colours. No love of fashion.
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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:20 am

Luveria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Culture doesn't justify bigotry.

Also, what "gay culture"?


It's like the mythical "trans culture" I've yet to encounter.

Drag queens, cross-dressers, and transvestites, I'm sure. Kinda like the gay culture of extreme femininity, fruity drinks, tight leather, and interior design.

Being sarcastic.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:24 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
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It's like the mythical "trans culture" I've yet to encounter.

Drag queens, cross-dressers, and transvestites, I'm sure. Kinda like the gay culture of extreme femininity, fruity drinks, tight leather, and interior design.

Being sarcastic.


Gay culture is shaven and muscular men wearing assless chaps, leather straps, and a police hat.

Trans culture consists of "trappery" on 4chan and the adult entertainment industry having a niche for trans females since that's a common preference.

Is that what people mean when they say gay or trans culture? Trans people themselves are disunited and not at all a cohesive group. There isn't any culture. Maybe elitism from the old guard, but that's about it.

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Postby Valenfel » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:24 am

Homosexuality is a natural thing at the very least, and a personal preference at the most.
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Postby Mini Miehm » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:31 am

Thafoo wrote:
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The culture of...fuck it, I got nothing. I would be willing to take bets that I'm nothing like the stereotypical LGBP person, in a lot of ways.

I'm the Gay God of this site, and I'm in no way stereotypical. No lithp. No limp wrist. No bright colours. No love of fashion.


Lies, I see your lithp right there!

Seriously though, the one guy I'm interested in doing anything with right now is a bisexual crossdressing PLUMBER. I'm a dirty metalhead security guard. Anyone who thinks that there's an overarching gay culture probably thinks that gays are all natural pedophiles too. And that is why we have shotguns.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:32 am

Mini Miehm wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I'm the Gay God of this site, and I'm in no way stereotypical. No lithp. No limp wrist. No bright colours. No love of fashion.


Lies, I see your lithp right there!

Seriously though, the one guy I'm interested in doing anything with right now is a bisexual crossdressing PLUMBER. I'm a dirty metalhead security guard. Anyone who thinks that there's an overarching gay culture probably thinks that gays are all natural pedophiles too. And that is why we have shotguns.


Crossdressers are awesome.

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Postby Mini Miehm » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:36 am

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Lies, I see your lithp right there!

Seriously though, the one guy I'm interested in doing anything with right now is a bisexual crossdressing PLUMBER. I'm a dirty metalhead security guard. Anyone who thinks that there's an overarching gay culture probably thinks that gays are all natural pedophiles too. And that is why we have shotguns.


Crossdressers are awesome.



Inorite? Though to be fair, some crossdressers are awesome. Some crossdressers are fuckterrifying looking.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:37 am

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Crossdressers are awesome.



Inorite? Though to be fair, some crossdressers are awesome. Some crossdressers are fuckterrifying looking.


I mean the ones who can play the part of a pretty female. Some can do it great, as skilled as a trans person.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:39 am

Mini Miehm wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I'm the Gay God of this site, and I'm in no way stereotypical. No lithp. No limp wrist. No bright colours. No love of fashion.


Lies, I see your lithp right there!

Seriously though, the one guy I'm interested in doing anything with right now is a bisexual crossdressing PLUMBER. I'm a dirty metalhead security guard. Anyone who thinks that there's an overarching gay culture probably thinks that gays are all natural pedophiles too. And that is why we have shotguns.

I try to see myself as non-stereotypical LGBT, but, I play keyboard (not drums, not guitar, not even bass, but KEYBOARD) for a band. I smoke lights, since I think full flavors are too rough on me. I also have a strange obsession with fruity drinks.

At least I don't have the lithp. :p
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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:42 am

New Frenco Empire wrote:
Mini Miehm wrote:
Lies, I see your lithp right there!

Seriously though, the one guy I'm interested in doing anything with right now is a bisexual crossdressing PLUMBER. I'm a dirty metalhead security guard. Anyone who thinks that there's an overarching gay culture probably thinks that gays are all natural pedophiles too. And that is why we have shotguns.

I try to see myself as non-stereotypical LGBT, but, I play keyboard (not drums, not guitar, not even bass, but KEYBOARD) for a band. I smoke lights, since I think full flavors are too rough on me. I also have a strange obsession with fruity drinks.

At least I don't have the lithp. :p

I don't think anybody can give you any shit for that.

I mean I like to think of myself as somewhat of a rugged dude, but I ain't hardcore enough to smoke a lightbulb. That shit's heavy man. I'd think the mercury in those new ones would make things really nasty, but I'm way too much of a wussy to try it out for myself.
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Postby Luveria » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:44 am

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:I try to see myself as non-stereotypical LGBT, but, I play keyboard (not drums, not guitar, not even bass, but KEYBOARD) for a band. I smoke lights, since I think full flavors are too rough on me. I also have a strange obsession with fruity drinks.

At least I don't have the lithp. :p

I don't think anybody can give you any shit for that.

I mean I like to think of myself as somewhat of a rugged dude, but I ain't hardcore enough to smoke a lightbulb. That shit's heavy man. I'd think the mercury in those new ones would make things really nasty, but I'm way too much of a wussy to try it out for myself.
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You're doing it wrong. The lightbulb isn't supposed to be smoked. It's what is placed inside the lightbulb that is smoked. But really, it's better to fork out the cash and buy a real pipe instead of using a lightbulb.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Fri Feb 21, 2014 12:46 am

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
New Frenco Empire wrote:I try to see myself as non-stereotypical LGBT, but, I play keyboard (not drums, not guitar, not even bass, but KEYBOARD) for a band. I smoke lights, since I think full flavors are too rough on me. I also have a strange obsession with fruity drinks.

At least I don't have the lithp. :p

I don't think anybody can give you any shit for that.

I mean I like to think of myself as somewhat of a rugged dude, but I ain't hardcore enough to smoke a lightbulb. That shit's heavy man. I'd think the mercury in those new ones would make things really nasty, but I'm way too much of a wussy to try it out for myself.
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