Mod-Sanctioned LGBT Rights & Issues Thread

[ScrewAllTheThings]

Why is a magazine asking him questions that lead to answers about homosexuality anyway? Is this what they do now? Ask TV personalities, celebrities etc about their politics hoping to create controversy?

That's how they make money. Lol get the public all fired up they have a hit story which means more money for them ;3

[Ifreann]

Doing interviews is part of his job, I would have thought.

I suppose.

but is part of his job pretending to have opinions he doesn't have?

Yeah. Gotta maintain his public image.

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Why is a magazine asking him questions that lead to answers about homosexuality anyway? Is this what they do now? Ask TV personalities, celebrities etc about their politics hoping to create controversy?

Probably.

[Bobanopula]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

Only being gay isn't morally reprehensible and can't be controlled. Bigotry is and can.

Also, fuck being "accepting" of bigoted remarks. I respect their right to say it, but not them or their remarks once they do.

To some people it still is morally reprehensible. I know its sad that in todays world when there are so many other things not to like about someone people are still anti-gay. Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

[Ancient Magmia]

I've watched a few episodes of this show...basically, it's popular because they're conservative Christians who don't swear or do anything 'immoral'. And that's the show. Take all the crappy nonsense they fluff the episodes with and put it in another show, and it would have been cancelled in it's first season.

What he said was just...wrong and ignorant on so many levels. And unfortunately most of this show's viewers probably either don't have a problem with/don't care about what he said, or they agree.

You would think A&E would have thought more about the consequences of putting these kinds of people in a show on their network. I mean, (iirc) one of them already made stupid comments regarding abortion...homosexuality was bound to come up. Now they have a decision to make.

[Len Hyet]

What? A show about Rednecks being Rednecks had someone who was openly anti-gay?

Stop the presses.

[Ifreann]

Only being gay isn't morally reprehensible and can't be controlled. Bigotry is and can.

Also, fuck being "accepting" of bigoted remarks. I respect their right to say it, but not them or their remarks once they do.

To some people it still is morally reprehensible. I know its sad that in todays world when there are so many other things not to like about someone people are still anti-gay. Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

Is that so? Then how is it that I've never attacked gay people, despite being straight? Am I not human?

[Dumb Ideologies]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

Yes. And shooting ducks just reminds me of when it was legal to shoot duck hunters for being duck hunters.

[Frisivisia]

Only being gay isn't morally reprehensible and can't be controlled. Bigotry is and can.

Also, fuck being "accepting" of bigoted remarks. I respect their right to say it, but not them or their remarks once they do.

To some people it still is morally reprehensible. I know its sad that in todays world when there are so many other things not to like about someone people are still anti-gay. Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

Bigotry can absolutely be controlled, source on your human nature claim, and some people are wrong in saying homosexuality is morally wrong.

[ScrewAllTheThings]

Only being gay isn't morally reprehensible and can't be controlled. Bigotry is and can.

Also, fuck being "accepting" of bigoted remarks. I respect their right to say it, but not them or their remarks once they do.

To some people it still is morally reprehensible. I know its sad that in todays world when there are so many other things not to like about someone people are still anti-gay. Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

Source pl0x? Pretty sure it isn't human nature to attack anything different....maybe stupidity.

Is that so? Then how is it that I've never attacked gay people, despite being straight? Am I not human?

because the internet said so apprently...lulz

[Len Hyet]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

Yes. And shooting ducks just reminds me of when it was legal to shoot duck hunters for being duck hunters.

See, the second of those never happened. The first did.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Yes. And shooting ducks just reminds me of when it was legal to shoot duck hunters for being duck hunters.

See, the second of those never happened. The first did.

Gee. Thanks for clearing that up, Sensei.

[Ancient Magmia]

Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

It absolutely can. And bigotry is not part of human nature, it is something that is taught.

[Ifreann]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

Yes. And shooting ducks just reminds me of when it was legal to shoot duck hunters for being duck hunters.

You can't shoot duck hunters, it's rabbit hunter season.

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Is that so? Then how is it that I've never attacked gay people, despite being straight? Am I not human?

because the internet said so apprently...lulz

If we can't trust anonymous strangers on the internet about our own species, who can we trust?

[Terra Sector Union]

Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

It absolutely can. And bigotry is not part of human nature, it is something that is taught.

Actually bigotry is part of human nature. You said it's taught. Yes it is but how did the first bigots came to existence? Surely it had to come from an idea. If bigotry exists within humans but not other animals, then it is human nature.
But we can control that still.

[Farnhamia]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

It's still legal to fire people for being gay in some places.

[Bobanopula]

To some people it still is morally reprehensible. I know its sad that in todays world when there are so many other things not to like about someone people are still anti-gay. Also I am not really sure bigotry can be controlled as it is human nature to attack anything that is different.

Bigotry can absolutely be controlled, source on your human nature claim, and some people are wrong in saying homosexuality is morally wrong.

As for a source I would say the entirety of Human history. Humans have always hated for no reason and have tried to destroy the thing they hate. I am not trying to excuse his remarks but I understand that as a human everyone has a hate of something that cannot be controlled.

I agree that they are wrong in thinking homosexuality is morally wrong but they would say that we are wrong in thinking its ok.

[ScrewAllTheThings]

I don't agree with his remarks but if we are to accept pro-gay remarks we must also accept anti-gay remarks. This guy losing his spot on the show just reminds me of when it was legal to fire gays for being gay.

It's still legal to fire people for being gay in some places.

/facepalm

[Bobanopula]

It absolutely can. And bigotry is not part of human nature, it is something that is taught.

Actually bigotry is part of human nature. You said it's taught. Yes it is but how did the first bigots came to existence? Surely it had to come from an idea. If bigotry exists within humans but not other animals, then it is human nature.
But we can control that still.

I think it can be redirected but never really controlled.

[ScrewAllTheThings]

Bigotry can absolutely be controlled, source on your human nature claim, and some people are wrong in saying homosexuality is morally wrong.

As for a source I would say the entirety of Human history. Humans have always hated for no reason and have tried to destroy the thing they hate. I am not trying to excuse his remarks but I understand that as a human everyone has a hate of something that cannot be controlled.

I agree that they are wrong in thinking homosexuality is morally wrong but they would say that we are wrong in thinking its ok.

Not only that we're wrong but we're going to hell. :|

[Bobanopula]

As for a source I would say the entirety of Human history. Humans have always hated for no reason and have tried to destroy the thing they hate. I am not trying to excuse his remarks but I understand that as a human everyone has a hate of something that cannot be controlled.

I agree that they are wrong in thinking homosexuality is morally wrong but they would say that we are wrong in thinking its ok.

Not only that we're wrong but we're going to hell. :|

They do tend to say that a lot. As I am not religious (I think there is a creator but not in the religious sense) I always find it funny when they pass judgment on people when there own book says that only there god can do that.

[ScrewAllTheThings]

Not only that we're wrong but we're going to hell. :|

They do tend to say that a lot. As I am not religious (I think there is a creator but not in the religious sense) I always find it funny when they pass judgment on people when there own book says that only there god can do that.

OhMyGod thank you! But then if you throw that back people are quick to say OH THAT'S NOT WHAT IT MEANS.

Oh so....ya know you can just change the meaning of a book written over 500 years ago to suit your needs? Good good.

[Harbertia]

It isn't right of them to do this to him. Remember when pro-gay stars were being suspended? It's the same deal here, or it's like starving a man to try, and get him to convert his way of thinking. It's wrong of them to do this. You may not agree with him, and he's not asking you to agree with him, but doing this to him is the same as firing a co-worker for being gay.

TV shows have viewers, and if the plot, story, characters, etc don't match the peoples standards they don't need to watch the show. Eventually, it proving something no one is interested in watching, it will be pulled off the air. Doing what they have done only furthers agitations. A+E, like many, were probably hurt by his comments, and desired to strike out. This is not the path to understanding.

On a note, this was a rant made not on the show, but in an interview. The show remains free of the rant. He was asked to share his personal opinion, and so he did.

[Ifreann]

It isn't right of them to do this to him. Remember when pro-gay stars were being suspended? It's the same deal here, or it's like starving a man to try, and get him to convert his way of thinking. It's wrong of them to do this. You may not agree with him, and he's not asking you to agree with him, but doing this to him is the same as firing a co-worker for being gay.

No it's not. Not at all.

TV shows have viewers, and if the plot, story, characters, etc don't match the peoples standards they don't need to watch the show.

And since the people who make the show are rather invested in keeping viewer numbers up and advertisers on board, they will fire stars whose public image will hurt those numbers or push advertisers away.

Eventually, it proving something no one is interested in watching, it will be pulled off the air.

Oh, they'd pull a failing show off the air well before that.

Doing what they have done only furthers agitations. A+E, like many, were probably hurt by his comments, and desired to strike out. This is not the path to understanding.

I doubt they give a rat's ass about understanding. Certainly not compared to continuing to make money.

On a note, this was a rant made not on the show, but in an interview. The show remains free of the rant. He was asked to share his personal opinion, and so he did.

So?

[Imperializt Russia]

Well, to be honest, I think his comments were blown a little out of proportion.

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there — bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

Glad to know that as a gay person I'll be coupluating with animals before too long.

Don't worry, apparently you'll breeze back to women at some point.

[West Florida]

“Start with homosexual behavior and just morph out from there — bestiality, sleeping around with this woman and that woman and that woman and those men.”

Glad to know that as a gay person I'll be coupluating with animals before too long.

Don't worry, apparently you'll breeze back to women at some point.

Maybe during a post coital moment of clarity I'll accept the Jewish zombie carpenter as my savoir followed by a hankering to cannibalize it...