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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:18 pm

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It isn't a lifestyle, sorry.

Then what is it?

A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

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Postby Thori » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:18 pm

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Thori wrote:Personally, I disagree with Homosexuality at the very core of the lifestyle.
Am I a hateful bigot? I don't think holding an opinion against a perverse lifestyle is hateful. But then again, I've been proven wrong before.

Why you hatin on another human man?

Not hating. I simply disagree.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:18 pm

Yes. There's absolutely no rational reason to keep it illegal.
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Postby Tatooene » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:18 pm

Why do we have another thread about this?
Pretty much all left wingers say yes.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:19 pm

Thori wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Why you hatin on another human man?

Not hating. I simply disagree.

Calling someone "perverse" is more than simple disagreement.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:19 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:
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But Homosexuals don't spread their genes naturally.

Ha ha, ha, ha. Good one. Sperm banks totally don't exist. Oh, wait, they do, and they are perfectly natural a way to procreate.

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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:19 pm

Thori wrote:
Lenciland wrote:Why you hatin on another human man?

Not hating. I simply disagree.

Then what is your secular valid reason for not wanting it legalized.
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Postby Blasveck » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:19 pm

Thori wrote:
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It isn't a lifestyle, sorry.

Then what is it?


A sexual orientation.

No, we don't know the exact causes, but we do know it isn't a choice.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:20 pm

Thori wrote:Personally, I disagree with Homosexuality at the very core of the lifestyle.
Am I a hateful bigot? I don't think holding an opinion against a perverse lifestyle is hateful. But then again, I've been proven wrong before.

Homosexuality is as much of a lifestyle as heterosexuality. Which is to say, it isn't a lifestyle.
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Postby Shaggai » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:20 pm

Need a name wrote:Not sure, still debating with myself whether it should be legal.

Yes. It should. Hey, why not? At least in the US.
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Postby Thori » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Thori wrote:Then what is it?

A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.
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Postby Need a Name » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:22 pm

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Homosexuality is frowned upon in the bible, but people should be able to make their own decisions.

No it ain't. The Torah is homophobic, but the Torah is a Jewish book, and only applies to Jews. For a Christian to follow Jewish scriptures would be an act of heresy.


It's in the bible, it's just in the old testament. And I'm pretty sure it says some about it in the new testament too.
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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:22 pm

Thori wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.

It's a genetic trait.
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Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

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Postby Agritum » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Need a name wrote:
Duvniask wrote:What is there to doubt?


Homosexuality is frowned upon in the bible, but people should be able to make their own decisions.

You just answered yourself, man.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Thori wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.

Fine. People live the oh so evil lifestyle of fucking men. Big whoop. Heterosexuality is a lifestyle under that definition, and nobody complains about it. I fail to see the big deal.

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Postby Thori » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Thori wrote:Personally, I disagree with Homosexuality at the very core of the lifestyle.
Am I a hateful bigot? I don't think holding an opinion against a perverse lifestyle is hateful. But then again, I've been proven wrong before.

Is heterosexuality a lifestyle too?

Yep
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Need a name wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No it ain't. The Torah is homophobic, but the Torah is a Jewish book, and only applies to Jews. For a Christian to follow Jewish scriptures would be an act of heresy.


It's in the bible, it's just in the old testament. And I'm pretty sure it says some about it in the new testament too.

No, there is no explicit condemnation of homosexuality found anywhere within the Bible.
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Postby Lenciland » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Need a name wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No it ain't. The Torah is homophobic, but the Torah is a Jewish book, and only applies to Jews. For a Christian to follow Jewish scriptures would be an act of heresy.


It's in the bible, it's just in the old testament. And I'm pretty sure it says some about it in the new testament too.

In the US we have a secular government meaning that your book written by a man in the clouds is an invalid excuse for not liking something, deal with it.
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Lenciland wrote:No there is no Messiah only the Misoiah and that is the Greta One. Bombadil and I am his prophet.

Misoyah Heathens, there is only the one true Ass.
Lo, for his prophet Andy Kaufman came down from on high, to show the ways of the troll.

Karlsreich wrote:And on the fourth day, God created Saturn. And he liked it. So he put a ring on it.

C is for colonies. Rightly we boast. That of all the great nations. Great Britain has the most.
Lenciland & Saint Kitten, neighbors in Hell.
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:23 pm

Thori wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.

Why is it a bad way to live?
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Postby Threlizdun » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:24 pm

Thori wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:A sexual orientation. Getting boners from guys and not girls. Wanting to fuck a guy's ass and not a girl's.

That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.

No, sexual orientation is about who you are attracted to. That isn't a lifestyle, but an inherent part of who you are.
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Postby Sibirsky » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:24 pm

Thori wrote:Personally, I disagree with Homosexuality at the very core of the lifestyle.
Am I a hateful bigot? I don't think holding an opinion against a perverse lifestyle is hateful. But then again, I've been proven wrong before.

Your opinion is perverse.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:25 pm

Need a name wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:No it ain't. The Torah is homophobic, but the Torah is a Jewish book, and only applies to Jews. For a Christian to follow Jewish scriptures would be an act of heresy.


It's in the bible, it's just in the old testament. And I'm pretty sure it says some about it in the new testament too.

And the Old Testament's law was fulfilled with the coming of the Messiah and was, thus, invalidated and no longer has any religious meaning to anyone who isn't a follower of Judaism.

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Postby Oil exporting People » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:25 pm

Lenciland wrote:But in the US religion can't get involved with the state so the Bible is not a valid excuse for being hateful.


Is it not a valid source for individuals to form their own opinions?

Lenciland wrote:It's a genetic trait.


Prove it.
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Postby Tatooene » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:25 pm

Lenciland wrote:
Thori wrote:That's...a lifestyle. Their "sexual orientation" and sexual acts are a part of the particular way in which they live. Lifestyle.

It's a genetic trait.

You're kind of arguing the same point. It is a trait (Sexual orientation) that affects the way a person lives. You're both right, just coming from different sides.
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Postby Agritum » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:25 pm

Lenciland wrote:
Need a name wrote:
It's in the bible, it's just in the old testament. And I'm pretty sure it says some about it in the new testament too.

In the US we have a secular government meaning that your book written by a man in the clouds is an invalid excuse for not liking something, deal with it.

Man, I 'm an agnostic myself, but please, don't be so demeaning to Christians which actually have a respectful, live and let live attitude towards homosexuals. You just make our side look bad and fuel the "secularists are anti-Christian!" drivel spouted by fundies.

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