The Eternal Thread: With A Little Help From My Friends

[Taoju]

It's more of give the student the knowledge. Test once (rote).See if they have absorbed the knowledge. Next, give a project. This project is to essentially give the student the ability to expand on the knowledge (critical thinking).

Weighted evaluations will have the project be the main thing being evaluated.

Why not just give major projects and do away with the test except for one or two; instead of mortifying over every. little. concept.

Rote doesn't work, that's how we're being taught here in the US.

That is what should be mandated. The small quizes are just to make sure basics are held down pat. Rote works, it's just that the way it is done in the States seems to not work. Rote is to only be limited to basics.

Projects is to see how far the student can take such basic knowledge. And weighted marking is key. Knowledge is important, but ability to expand on such knowledge is valued greater.

[Qazox]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Or you could do what I did in High School, sleep in every class, get A's on every test, never do homework, and still wind up 5th out of 143 in my class.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Exactly, and the objective method of grading by numbers doesn't accomodate critical thinking. You start trying to play by the system and you stop focusing on what matters.

Exactly. *cue my awesome teacher praise*
I'd never had a teacher tell me before that I needed to become a better thinker. I was writing essays for my biology tests like my previous teachers expected me to, but it wasn't original thought. This new teacher of mine is really pushing me to think critically, and it's wonderful.

I wasn't pushed to use my skills until college, really. When I got into college it was wonderful to get these assignments that other students were scratching their heads and I could finish them well because of my ability to connect and grasp two seemingly unrelated concepts and my insight into the material. I enjoyed it.

[Thafoo]

Once again, I'm not to blame for the bump in TET speed. Circumstances that happened and stuff occurred probably.

[New Maldorainia]

But you secretly enjoy it.

Lewd.

You are always lewd Schnitzel.

[New haven america]

Why not just give major projects and do away with the test except for one or two; instead of mortifying over every. little. concept.

Rote doesn't work, that's how we're being taught here in the US.

That is what should be mandated. The small quizes are just to make sure basics are held down pat. Rote works, it's just that the way it is done in the States seems to not work. Rote is to only be limited to basics.

Projects is to see how far the student can take such basic knowledge. And weighted marking is key. Knowledge is important, but ability to expand on such knowledge is valued greater.

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

[Luxew]

That person, yes. I've been studying her lately, and I just discovered she went through A LOT of turmoil during the late 90's.

She's quite the social activist. Big name in the ROC.

Isn't she a death penality activist because her daughter, Pai Hsiao-yen because kidnapped, tortured, and murdered and the killers never received a formal execution (but they were killed).

[New Maldorainia]

Once again, I'm not to blame for the bump in TET speed. Circumstances that happened and stuff occurred probably.

I blame you.

[New haven america]

Lewd.

You are always lewd Schnitzel.

Thank you Kartoffel.

[Meritocratic States]

Don't know whether I should stay lurking on TET or play World in Conflict.

YouTube it is!

[The Serbian Empire]

It's more of give the student the knowledge. Test once (rote).See if they have absorbed the knowledge. Next, give a project. This project is to essentially give the student the ability to expand on the knowledge (critical thinking).

Weighted evaluations will have the project be the main thing being evaluated.

Why not just give major projects and do away with the test except for one or two; instead of mortifying over every. little. concept.

Rote doesn't work, that's how we're being taught here in the US.

I wouldn't say it doesn't work, but America doesn't have the culture of China, Korea, or Japan where rote works. I think it's the anti-intellectualism pushed by gangs and Evangelical Christians that cause America's shortcomings.

[Taoju]

That is what should be mandated. The small quizes are just to make sure basics are held down pat. Rote works, it's just that the way it is done in the States seems to not work. Rote is to only be limited to basics.

Projects is to see how far the student can take such basic knowledge. And weighted marking is key. Knowledge is important, but ability to expand on such knowledge is valued greater.

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

Because the flawed system stifled that ambition.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That is what should be mandated. The small quizes are just to make sure basics are held down pat. Rote works, it's just that the way it is done in the States seems to not work. Rote is to only be limited to basics.

Projects is to see how far the student can take such basic knowledge. And weighted marking is key. Knowledge is important, but ability to expand on such knowledge is valued greater.

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

It's mostly because teachers and parents don't care. If children do not see their parents pushing them or their teachers being motivators to succeed; how do we expect them to actually succeed?!

Not everyone of us is an introvert who can bootstrap their way into school; some of us are extroverts or fall somewhere in the middle, so motivation from the outside is very important too.

[Thafoo]

Once again, I'm not to blame for the bump in TET speed. Circumstances that happened and stuff occurred probably.

I blame you.

No, Maldo. You don't blame me.

[Stern des Meeres]

Exactly. *cue my awesome teacher praise*
I'd never had a teacher tell me before that I needed to become a better thinker. I was writing essays for my biology tests like my previous teachers expected me to, but it wasn't original thought. This new teacher of mine is really pushing me to think critically, and it's wonderful.

I wasn't pushed to use my skills until college, really. When I got into college it was wonderful to get these assignments that other students were scratching their heads and I could finish them well because of my ability to connect and grasp two seemingly unrelated concepts and my insight into the material. I enjoyed it.

If that's what college is like, I'll enjoy it.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

She's quite the social activist. Big name in the ROC.

Isn't she a death penality activist because her daughter, Pai Hsiao-yen because kidnapped, tortured, and murdered and the killers never received a formal execution (but they were killed).

Indeed. Confucian values would see their heads rolling. The ROC's trying to adopt the same efficient execution process of the PRC. Fast and ready to take on more.

[Luxew]

Isn't she a death penality activist because her daughter, Pai Hsiao-yen because kidnapped, tortured, and murdered and the killers never received a formal execution (but they were killed).

Indeed. Confucian values would see their heads rolling. The ROC's trying to adopt the same efficient execution process of the PRC. Fast and ready to take on more.

What's next? Work camps (despite China just banned them)?

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

Aaaaand there's a dance number at the reunion.

Lovely.

[The Serbian Empire]

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

Because the flawed system stifled that ambition.

The ambition might have never existed in the first place. The system can't easily motivate a person with no motivation.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I wasn't pushed to use my skills until college, really. When I got into college it was wonderful to get these assignments that other students were scratching their heads and I could finish them well because of my ability to connect and grasp two seemingly unrelated concepts and my insight into the material. I enjoyed it.

If that's what college is like, I'll enjoy it.

I was a History major so I guess I am talking about my specific major. But I am not sure about engineering or other tech fields. I do know they make you do projects, a lot.

[Taoju]

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

It's mostly because teachers and parents don't care. If children do not see their parents pushing them or their teachers being motivators to succeed; how do we expect them to actually succeed?!

Not everyone of us is an introvert who can bootstrap their way into school; some of us are extroverts or fall somewhere in the middle, so motivation from the outside is very important too.

The apathy is a killer issue.

Needs more love, up to eleven.

[New Maldorainia]

I blame you.

No, Maldo. You don't blame me.

Jedi mind tricks do not work on me.

[Stern des Meeres]

Even though a lot of students in the US don't care about their grades...

It's mostly because teachers and parents don't care. If children do not see their parents pushing them or their teachers being motivators to succeed; how do we expect them to actually succeed?!

Not everyone of us is an introvert who can bootstrap their way into school; some of us are extroverts or fall somewhere in the middle, so motivation from the outside is very important too.

While I mostly agree, self-motivation does play some part. You can't be motivated by teachers and parents if you do not motivate yourself.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

Indeed. Confucian values would see their heads rolling. The ROC's trying to adopt the same efficient execution process of the PRC. Fast and ready to take on more.

What's next? Work camps (despite China just banned them)?

That little island's not big enough for work camps. Current projects include transition to green industry, sustainable energy, enhanced crop rotation (tea and sunflower) and cultural preservation programs for the aboriginals.

[Meritocratic States]

Aaaaand there's a dance number at the reunion.

Lovely.

Oh.

Ouch.