The Eternal Thread: With A Little Help From My Friends

[Qazox]

Be back in a few.

[Taoju]

THANK YOU!

I hated it when I was made to learn shit just to pass. I got Bs and Cs because of it on some of my subjects, as I am an analyzer, not a regurgitation machine.

All that 'matters' is the grade, but what really it all matters on understanding, which my teacher asks everyday.

What matters more is getting the required skills so one gets employed.

Marks matter, but skills has been pushed under the bed.

[Thafoo]

Be back in a few.

A few decades, perhaps?

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

什么是你想说什么呢？In english.

Do you speak Han as your native tongue, like Mandarin or Cantonese.

My very first three were Bunun (Taiwanese Aboriginal), Mandarin and Japanese(dad). But I can also speak Cantonese, Hokkien and Vietnamese, and a few other languages. Dropped pursuit of a few to accommodate for Arabic. ^^

[Luxew]

All that 'matters' is the grade, but what really it all matters on understanding, which my teacher asks everyday.

What matters more is getting the required skills so one gets employed.

Marks matter, but skills has been pushed under the bed.

I put matters in quotation marks over grade matters, understanding (which is the foundation of skill) matters more then the grade.

[Stern des Meeres]

And quit encouraging regurgitation! So many people in my grade can recite information at the drop of a hat but they don't get it.

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

[New Maldorainia]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Very true.

[Stern des Meeres]

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Very true.

I come up with a good point every now and then.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

When you're working with the Japanese and Chinese writing systems, which encompass rhetoric, philosophy and language, memorization is everything.

[Taoju]

Emphasis on critical thought. Rote is to supplement knowledgez.

That's what schools did with me, I hated them.

It's more of give the student the knowledge. Test once (rote).See if they have absorbed the knowledge. Next, give a project. This project is to essentially give the student the ability to expand on the knowledge (critical thinking).

Weighted evaluations will have the project be the main thing being evaluated.

[Luxew]

Do you speak Han as your native tongue, like Mandarin or Cantonese.

My very first three were Bunun (Taiwanese Aboriginal), Mandarin and Japanese(dad). But I can also speak Cantonese, Hokkien and Vietnamese, and a few other languages. Dropped pursuit of a few to accommodate for Arabic. ^^

Ah. Have you have heard of Pai Ping-ping?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Exactly, and the objective method of grading by numbers doesn't accomodate critical thinking. You start trying to play by the system and you stop focusing on what matters.

[Sanguinea]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Memorization is actually easier if you understand the material as well.

[Stern des Meeres]

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

When you're working with the Japanese and Chinese writing systems, which encompass rhetoric, philosophy and language, memorization is everything.

I can imagine so.

[Taoju]

Um. Rote/Regurg. is required for simple knowledge. The emphasis on critical thinking needs to be pushed. And talent.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Which only works if the student is willing to go the extra mile.

Projeeeects. Emphasised crit. thinking is projects.

[The Serbian Empire]

What y'all need is a system that stimulates critical thought, encourages rote learning the East Asian way, small class sizes, uber qualified teachers, higher levels of accessibilty, and lass Jeezush.

[snaps fingers]

And quit encouraging regurgitation! So many people in my grade can recite information at the drop of a hat but they don't get it.

Yeah... I have more understanding than regurgitation at this point. Somehow the US has more post-high school education graduates than all of Europe percentage wise and behind Canada and I think there's one other... New Zealand perhaps. However, I wonder how it can be given all the regurgitation in high school.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's what schools did with me, I hated them.

It's more of give the student the knowledge. Test once (rote).See if they have absorbed the knowledge. Next, give a project. This project is to essentially give the student the ability to expand on the knowledge (critical thinking).

Weighted evaluations will have the project be the main thing being evaluated.

Why not just give major projects and do away with the test except for one or two; instead of mortifying over every. little. concept.

Rote doesn't work, that's how we're being taught here in the US.

[Stern des Meeres]

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Exactly, and the objective method of grading by numbers doesn't accomodate critical thinking. You start trying to play by the system and you stop focusing on what matters.

Exactly. *cue my awesome teacher praise*
I'd never had a teacher tell me before that I needed to become a better thinker. I was writing essays for my biology tests like my previous teachers expected me to, but it wasn't original thought. This new teacher of mine is really pushing me to think critically, and it's wonderful.

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Memorization is actually easier if you understand the material as well.

Granted, the same is true for the reverse.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

My very first three were Bunun (Taiwanese Aboriginal), Mandarin and Japanese(dad). But I can also speak Cantonese, Hokkien and Vietnamese, and a few other languages. Dropped pursuit of a few to accommodate for Arabic. ^^

Ah. Have you have heard of Pai Ping-ping?

The singer?

[Luxew]

Ah. Have you have heard of Pai Ping-ping?

The singer?

That person, yes. I've been studying her lately, and I just discovered she went through A LOT of turmoil during the late 90's.

[Stern des Meeres]

Memorization is important, sure. But memorization without the critical thinking element is empty and practically worthless except to get a good grade.

Which only works if the student is willing to go the extra mile.

Projeeeects. Emphasised crit. thinking is projects.

Speaking of which, I should probably be working on my final project right now. Huh. Oh well.

I agree with you here, Seito, and don't have much to add. Well said.

[Qazox]

Stop bopping me, Queen Latifa.

But you secretly enjoy it.

Only from women over 18, Maldo.

[New haven america]

Stop bopping me, Queen Latifa.

But you secretly enjoy it.

Lewd.

[New Maldorainia]

But you secretly enjoy it.

Only from women over 18, Maldo.

I never gave specifics.

[Lianhua (Ancient)]

The singer?

That person, yes. I've been studying her lately, and I just discovered she went through A LOT of turmoil during the late 90's.

She's quite the social activist. Big name in the ROC.