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Left-wing Utopia

Postby DesAnges » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:56 am

Gallade wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:criminals would be the technical term.

i am no fan of the current system, but you change it by laws, not by theft.

And yet people call governments criminals for shutting down sites like The Pirate Bay.

If you're not going to pay for it, you simply don't get to use it. You wouldn't go into a store, claim a 72" screen television to be open-source and leave with it without expecting consequences.

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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:57 am

DesAnges wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:You too? :hug:

It's just so frustrating sometimes. I love science but I could never get good grades in science classes.

Well I'm a lazy fuck. Lack of motivation is my bane.

Such harshness! :hug:

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Postby Lordieth » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:58 am

Up until 4am, then sleeping until gone 2 in the afternoon. It's a luxury.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:58 am

DesAnges wrote:
Gallade wrote:And yet people call governments criminals for shutting down sites like The Pirate Bay.

If you're not going to pay for it, you simply don't get to use it. You wouldn't go into a store, claim a 72" screen television to be open-source and leave with it without expecting consequences.

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The way that guy literally looked directly at the camera gave me chills. Eep.

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Postby DesAnges » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:58 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Relevant

The way that guy literally looked directly at the camera gave me chills. Eep.

It's actually just a very clever advert.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:59 am

Lordieth wrote:Up until 4am, then sleeping until gone 2 in the afternoon. It's a luxury.


Up until 10:30am, sleeping till 5:30pm. It's a workday. :p
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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Nov 21, 2013 7:59 am

DesAnges wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:The way that guy literally looked directly at the camera gave me chills. Eep.

It's actually just a very clever advert.

:o Why'd they make it so creepy, though? :p

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Postby Lordieth » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:00 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Lordieth wrote:Up until 4am, then sleeping until gone 2 in the afternoon. It's a luxury.


Up until 10:30am, sleeping till 5:30pm. It's a workday. :p


Night-shifts? What do you do?
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Postby Blue Peak » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:01 am

Gallade wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:criminals would be the technical term.

i am no fan of the current system, but you change it by laws, not by theft.

And yet people call governments criminals for shutting down sites like The Pirate Bay.

If you're not going to pay for it, you simply don't get to use it. You wouldn't go into a store, claim a 72" screen television to be open-source and leave with it without expecting consequences.


They count every pirated copy as a lost sale, but that is not the case.
It is not lost sale if the person did not intend to buy it in the first place.

Statistically speaking, more sales occur due to pirating and no company has ever went under due to it.
Pirating has done nothing but help the economy, but these businesses still attack it.

They attack it because they know it will make it stronger, as it always has.
The more the corporations try to stop us from doing something, the more we do it.

Breaking Bad is a good example. The director thanks pirating for getting the show so popular.

And to add to your statement, I can't make a copy of that tv. I can make a copy of a .mp4 or any other media type.
Stealing is taking something from someone, not making a copy of it.

But do your research before claiming that pirating is bad. It has only helped businesses so far.
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Postby Huda » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:03 am

o.o One of my baby cousins just had a sip or two of Ginger Ale. o.o

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Postby Lianhua (Ancient) » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:04 am

Huda wrote:o.o One of my baby cousins just had a sip or two of Ginger Ale. o.o

Good stuff. Soothes my throat after a long day at work. I almost like it as much as green tea. o/
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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:05 am

Where is Thernsy when you need her? There's some puppets that need their strings cut.

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Postby Gallade » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:05 am

Blue Peak wrote:
Gallade wrote:And yet people call governments criminals for shutting down sites like The Pirate Bay.

If you're not going to pay for it, you simply don't get to use it. You wouldn't go into a store, claim a 72" screen television to be open-source and leave with it without expecting consequences.


They count every pirated copy as a lost sale, but that is not the case.
It is not lost sale if the person did not intend to buy it in the first place.

Statistically speaking, more sales occur due to pirating and no company has ever went under due to it.
Pirating has done nothing but help the economy, but these businesses still attack it.

They attack it because they know it will make it stronger, as it always has.
The more the corporations try to stop us from doing something, the more we do it.

Breaking Bad is a good example. The director thanks pirating for getting the show so popular.

And to add to your statement, I can't make a copy of that tv. I can make a copy of a .mp4 or any other media type.
Stealing is taking something from someone, not making a copy of it.

But do your research before claiming that pirating is bad. It has only helped businesses so far.

You can try and justify theft all you want.

So, you're saying that if pirating was not available people would not purchase these films, tv shows and music albums?
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Postby Vantaa State » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:08 am

Gallade wrote:
Blue Peak wrote:
They count every pirated copy as a lost sale, but that is not the case.
It is not lost sale if the person did not intend to buy it in the first place.

Statistically speaking, more sales occur due to pirating and no company has ever went under due to it.
Pirating has done nothing but help the economy, but these businesses still attack it.

They attack it because they know it will make it stronger, as it always has.
The more the corporations try to stop us from doing something, the more we do it.

Breaking Bad is a good example. The director thanks pirating for getting the show so popular.

And to add to your statement, I can't make a copy of that tv. I can make a copy of a .mp4 or any other media type.
Stealing is taking something from someone, not making a copy of it.

But do your research before claiming that pirating is bad. It has only helped businesses so far.

You can try and justify theft all you want.

So, you're saying that if pirating was not available people would not purchase these films, tv shows and music albums?

Pirating is a very christian practice. Jesus wasn't stealing bread when he started making more, was he? :p

I'd rather pay though.

EDIT: Goddamnit grammar.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:09 am

Lordieth wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Up until 10:30am, sleeping till 5:30pm. It's a workday. :p


Night-shifts? What do you do?


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Postby Gallade » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:10 am

The Truth and Light wrote:Where is Thernsy when you need her? There's some puppets that need their strings cut.

She's off doing academic things.
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Postby Magna Libero » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:10 am

Vantaa State wrote:
Gallade wrote:You can try and justify theft all you want.

So, you're saying that if pirating was not available people would not purchase these films, tv shows and music albums?

Pirating is a very christian practice. Jesus wasn't stealing bread when he started making more, was he? :p

I'd rather pay though.

EDIT: Goddamnit grammar.

He didn't steal. He asked someone to lend over a bread and someone mutually agreed to his proposal.
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Postby Lordieth » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:12 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Lordieth wrote:
Night-shifts? What do you do?


Polywrapper operator in a printing plant.


It still blows my mind sometimes how exact and precise automated lines can be.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Lordieth wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Polywrapper operator in a printing plant.


It still blows my mind sometimes how exact and precise automated lines can be.


Not with the yahoos I get for a crew. :lol:
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Postby Jetan » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Gallade wrote:
Blue Peak wrote:
They count every pirated copy as a lost sale, but that is not the case.
It is not lost sale if the person did not intend to buy it in the first place.

Statistically speaking, more sales occur due to pirating and no company has ever went under due to it.
Pirating has done nothing but help the economy, but these businesses still attack it.

They attack it because they know it will make it stronger, as it always has.
The more the corporations try to stop us from doing something, the more we do it.

Breaking Bad is a good example. The director thanks pirating for getting the show so popular.

And to add to your statement, I can't make a copy of that tv. I can make a copy of a .mp4 or any other media type.
Stealing is taking something from someone, not making a copy of it.

But do your research before claiming that pirating is bad. It has only helped businesses so far.

You can try and justify theft all you want.

So, you're saying that if pirating was not available people would not purchase these films, tv shows and music albums?

Some would, but most wouldn't. Pirating is wrong, but it's not theft.
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Postby The Truth and Light » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:13 am

Gallade wrote:
The Truth and Light wrote:Where is Thernsy when you need her? There's some puppets that need their strings cut.

She's off doing academic things.

Ahhh, fun! :lol:

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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:14 am

The Truth and Light wrote:
Gallade wrote:She's off doing academic things.

Ahhh, fun! :lol:


I did an academic thing once. 8) :D
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Postby Gallade » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:14 am

Vantaa State wrote:
Gallade wrote:You can try and justify theft all you want.

So, you're saying that if pirating was not available people would not purchase these films, tv shows and music albums?

Pirating is a very christian practice. Jesus wasn't stealing bread when he started making more, was he? :p

I'd rather pay though.

EDIT: Goddamnit grammar.

That bread was shared with consent by the owner of said bread.

Using the bible to discuss ownership. This is getting silly. ;)
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Postby The Armed Republic of Dutch Coolness » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:14 am

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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Nov 21, 2013 8:15 am

The Armed Republic of Dutch coolness wrote:I'm not going to slow down.


That was the famous last words of the bug that hit my windshield this morning.
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