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Postby Immoren » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:36 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:I mean, I realize I'm probably coming off as a bitch right now - but in the end we're talking about a subject that people put their lives into researching.

Whatevs. Coffee Cakes apparently is completely unconcerned with what is factual and what isn't, and this difference of priorities will lead to nothing but frustration. Please dismiss. o/

Look, it's not like Coffee Cakes is a creationist or something insane like that, so we've got a workable situation here. It's just that he likes to think that there was a thought behind the primordial soup. And hell, maybe there is or was a vast and ancient intergalactic civilization (or perhaps even multiversal, because why not?) that had nothing better to do than seed promising looking planets in order to see what would happen in a few hundred million years.

But maybe all that scifi I have been reading over the decades has corrupted my sense of realism.


That's purpose of SCIFI tho. And there's nothing wrong with that. ;p
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:37 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:I am more pleased to hear that than you know. :hug:


I see it as "news" more than "good" or "bad news", personally. But eh.


You should lighten up Thernsy, you gain nothing being so gloomy in the morning/evening.
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Postby Katyuscha » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:37 am

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Katyuscha wrote:I'm supposed to hang out with a friend, whom I haven;t seen in months, today, so that's pretty cool.

That's rad, your friend is rad, please have a rad time hon! :hug:

I don't know about rad, but I'll have a fun time staring at him, all day.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:38 am

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Katyuscha wrote:I'm supposed to hang out with a friend, whom I haven;t seen in months, today, so that's pretty cool.

That's rad, your friend is rad, please have a rad time hon! :hug:

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Umm, if it makes you feel any better, it's supposed to snow today down here. If there is snow and it sticks I might go and play with my little sister with it this morning.

Snow is a blessing. Cherish your time with your little sister, please hon. :hug:


I will :hug:
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:38 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I see it as "news" more than "good" or "bad news", personally. But eh.


You should lighten up Thernsy, you gain nothing being so gloomy in the morning/evening.


I could be feeling much worse right now.
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:39 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:I mean, I realize I'm probably coming off as a bitch right now - but in the end we're talking about a subject that people put their lives into researching.

Whatevs. Coffee Cakes apparently is completely unconcerned with what is factual and what isn't, and this difference of priorities will lead to nothing but frustration. Please dismiss. o/

Look, it's not like Coffee Cakes is a creationist or something insane like that, so we've got a workable situation here. It's just that he likes to think that there was a thought behind the primordial soup. And hell, maybe there is or was a vast and ancient intergalactic civilization (or perhaps even multiversal, because why not?) that had nothing better to do than seed promising looking planets in order to see what would happen in a few hundred million years.

But maybe all that scifi I have been reading over the decades has corrupted my sense of realism.

Yeah you really should, since that's borderlining on Spirit Science in the level of crank. :p
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Postby Aquafireland » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:39 am

Fucking shitheads in RL these days.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:39 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
You should lighten up Thernsy, you gain nothing being so gloomy in the morning/evening.


I could be feeling much worse right now.


Not exactly what I meant with "lighten up" but okay, it's a start. Baby steps.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:40 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Coffee Cakes wrote:Then why is evolution struggling to catch on with Americans?
If it was supposedly as clear cut, it should've been accepted widely by now.

Evolution is pretty clear cut as a Biological concept CC; problem is people try to debate the idea or discard it as "just a theory"

A theory, unlike a hypothesis, in the science community means "we are not sure this is what happens 100%, but our fuckton of data collected over the years tells us we are pretty fucking sure this is what happens until further notice"

Which is superior to "THIS IS BIBLE. BIBLE IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. YOU NOT DISS BIBLE.", if you ask me. Same goes for any other holy book, of course. And let's not forget that it was not mythology that gave us the means to communicate with each other, but science. Advanced machine technology has changed our lives more than any religion, but large parts of humanity are still in denial. Violently in denial, even.
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Postby Katyuscha » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:40 am

Aquafireland wrote:Fucking shitheads in RL these days.

They do, indeed, exist.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:40 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I could be feeling much worse right now.


Not exactly what I meant with "lighten up" but okay, it's a start. Baby steps.


Did you mean I need to lose weight? :(

I'm a stick already. If I lose any more weight I fly away in the wind.

(It's actually toppled me sometimes)
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:41 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
You should lighten up Thernsy, you gain nothing being so gloomy in the morning/evening.


I could be feeling much worse right now.

I think you're a very valuable person and you've been a great addition to this forum. What mood you should be in is not for me to dictate, but I do wish for you to get to a place where suicide is not a need or a preferable option. That's my cultural bias, though.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:42 am

Lies and Ignorance wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I could be feeling much worse right now.

I think you're a very valuable person and you've been a great addition to this forum. What mood you should be in is not for me to dictate, but I do wish for you to get to a place where suicide is not a need or a preferable option. That's my cultural bias, though.


I dunno about great addition. All I've contributed is sarcasm and an obsession with nose-like appendages.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:42 am

Hurdegaryp wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:Evolution is pretty clear cut as a Biological concept CC; problem is people try to debate the idea or discard it as "just a theory"

A theory, unlike a hypothesis, in the science community means "we are not sure this is what happens 100%, but our fuckton of data collected over the years tells us we are pretty fucking sure this is what happens until further notice"

Which is superior to "THIS IS BIBLE. BIBLE IS ABSOLUTE TRUTH. YOU NOT DISS BIBLE.", if you ask me. Same goes for any other holy book, of course. And let's not forget that it was not mythology that gave us the means to communicate with each other, but science. Advanced machine technology has changed our lives more than any religion, but large parts of humanity are still in denial. Violently in denial, even.


Some people just take it for granted. It's not the denial, is that people, as long as they can find a practical use, they don't bitch about it.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

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Postby Aquafireland » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:43 am

Katyuscha wrote:
Aquafireland wrote:Fucking shitheads in RL these days.

They do, indeed, exist.

the problem is why.
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:44 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:I think you're a very valuable person and you've been a great addition to this forum. What mood you should be in is not for me to dictate, but I do wish for you to get to a place where suicide is not a need or a preferable option. That's my cultural bias, though.


I dunno about great addition. All I've contributed is sarcasm and an obsession with nose-like appendages.

The thing is that you add character to discussions here. Your sarcasm is also poignant and humorous. I'm also the arbiter of objective truth in this instance, question me and the universe breaks. :)
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:44 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Not exactly what I meant with "lighten up" but okay, it's a start. Baby steps.


Did you mean I need to lose weight? :(

I'm a stick already. If I lose any more weight I fly away in the wind.

(It's actually toppled me sometimes)


Awh!!! :hug:

Of course not, but, I will say this. I enjoy your commentaries a lot more than you can ever know.
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Tekania wrote:Welcome to NSG, where informed opinions get to bump-heads with ignorant ideology under the pretense of an equal footing.

"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

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Postby Katyuscha » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:45 am

Aquafireland wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:They do, indeed, exist.

the problem is why.

Because the world hates you and everything you stand for.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:45 am

Lies and Ignorance wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I dunno about great addition. All I've contributed is sarcasm and an obsession with nose-like appendages.

The thing is that you add character to discussions here. Your sarcasm is also poignant and humorous. I'm also the arbiter of objective truth in this instance, question me and the universe breaks. :)


I don't believe in humanly observable objective truths. I question your statement.
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Postby Lies and Ignorance » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:45 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:The thing is that you add character to discussions here. Your sarcasm is also poignant and humorous. I'm also the arbiter of objective truth in this instance, question me and the universe breaks. :)


I don't believe in humanly observable objective truths. I question your statement.

Well fuck the universe was broken anyway, but I'm glad you called my bluff.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:46 am

Soldati senza confini wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
Did you mean I need to lose weight? :(

I'm a stick already. If I lose any more weight I fly away in the wind.

(It's actually toppled me sometimes)


Awh!!! :hug:

Of course not, but, I will say this. I enjoy your commentaries a lot more than you can ever know.


:hug: Wind's kicking up. I better hold on just in case.

Then again I've been wanting to know what my hometown looks like from the sky.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:46 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Lies and Ignorance wrote:I think you're a very valuable person and you've been a great addition to this forum. What mood you should be in is not for me to dictate, but I do wish for you to get to a place where suicide is not a need or a preferable option. That's my cultural bias, though.

I dunno about great addition. All I've contributed is sarcasm and an obsession with nose-like appendages.

Now I cannot speak for others, but I would miss that delightful sarcasm and your presence in general. The nose-like appendages are still something that keeps me awake at nights, so I guess you could consider that another accomplished mission. Hell, you would actually be a reason for me to visit Sweden, because I would love to observe Thernsy in her natural habitat. You know, for science. Science makes everything better or at least more lethally efficient.
CVT Temp wrote:I mean, we can actually create a mathematical definition for evolution in terms of the evolutionary algorithm and then write code to deal with abstract instances of evolution, which basically equates to mathematical proof that evolution works. All that remains is to show that biological systems replicate in such a way as to satisfy the minimal criteria required for evolution to apply to them, something which has already been adequately shown time and again. At this point, we've pretty much proven that not only can evolution happen, it pretty much must happen since it's basically impossible to prevent it from happening.

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:46 am

Lies and Ignorance wrote:
The Holy Therns wrote:
I don't believe in humanly observable objective truths. I question your statement.

Well fuck the universe was broken anyway, but I'm glad you called my bluff.


We are in agreement.

Nose-like agreement.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:48 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
Awh!!! :hug:

Of course not, but, I will say this. I enjoy your commentaries a lot more than you can ever know.


:hug: Wind's kicking up. I better hold on just in case.

Then again I've been wanting to know what my hometown looks like from the sky.


You have a great sense of imagination, you know that? :kiss:
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"When it’s a choice of putting food on the table, or thinking about your morals, it’s easier to say you’d think about your morals, but only if you’ve never faced that decision." - Anastasia Richardson

Current Goal: Flesh out nation factbook.

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