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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:22 pm

Ainin wrote:
Corenea wrote:My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .

A socialist racist? We would probably already have kicked you out of our caucus. :P

Socialism is incompatible with racism....

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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:23 pm

Beta Test wrote:
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
OOC: :lol2: who gets to play DiCaprio's character?



OOC: Yes it would exist here.



OOC: *Throws bucket of cold water on the prostrate figure.*

OOC: If the NSG Senate does exist... *kills self trying to comprehend the possibilities*


OOC: The nation Beta test has died.
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Postby Corenea » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:24 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Ainin wrote:A socialist racist? We would probably already have kicked you out of our caucus. :P

Socialism is incompatible with racism....

Actually, racism is non-partisan. There are left-wingers, right-wingers, and centrists who are racist.
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Postby Macedonian Grand Empire » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:24 pm

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Beta Test wrote:Serious? The bill says that? Who wrote it?

None other than our Treasurer Next Washington.


Ex treasurer. I replaced him with Nihil.
Did not say sack him due to that being negative connotation.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Corenea wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:Socialism is incompatible with racism....

Actually, racism is non-partisan. There are left-wingers, right-wingers, and centrists who are racist.

If you are of the socialist socio-economic view, you cannot value one worker of another, or you're just not a socialist. Workers are all equally valuable regardless of their race or national origin.

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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:25 pm

Corenea wrote:
Beta Test wrote:OOC: If the NSG Senate does exist... *kills self trying to comprehend the possibilities*

My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .


I would be Stalinist and try and start a revolution and purge the bourgeoisie.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:26 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
Corenea wrote:My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .


I would be Stalinist and try and start a revolution and purge the bourgeoisie.

Camarade!

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Postby Unicario » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:31 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
Corenea wrote:My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .


I would be Stalinist and try and start a revolution and purge the bourgeoisie.


((I'd be a French Conservative Bonaparte.))
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:34 pm

I'd be a radical American constitutionalist.
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:47 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Corenea wrote:Actually, racism is non-partisan. There are left-wingers, right-wingers, and centrists who are racist.

If you are of the socialist socio-economic view, you cannot value one worker of another, or you're just not a socialist. Workers are all equally valuable regardless of their race or national origin.


What if you try not to be racist but have a "bias problem?"
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Postby Geilinor » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:53 pm

Minarchist States wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:If you are of the socialist socio-economic view, you cannot value one worker of another, or you're just not a socialist. Workers are all equally valuable regardless of their race or national origin.


What if you try not to be racist but have a "bias problem?"

You make it sound like a medical problem. :p
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Postby Corenea » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:58 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Minarchist States wrote:
What if you try not to be racist but have a "bias problem?"

You make it sound like a medical problem. :p

Racism is a disease I guess, no wonder most of the KKK look sick
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:59 pm

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Minarchist States wrote:
What if you try not to be racist but have a "bias problem?"

You make it sound like a medical problem. :p


There had been some initiatives in the medical community to develop a cure for racism. Unfortunately I think some basic prejudice is human nature and race, due to easy recognition and universality has become the easiest channel to funnel prejudice and easiest way to attack others as it is an immutable part of them, unlike what clothes they wear and etc.
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Postby Mediciano » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:14 am

I'd like to point out that attempting to develop a cure for an objectionable way of thinking is probably the most authoritarian and oppressive thing one can do. Not everything is a medical condition, and it all just leads to greater diversity of ideas.

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Postby Maklohi Vai » Sat Nov 30, 2013 1:15 am

Beta Test wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.

OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?

Shit, you're onto me. :P

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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Sat Nov 30, 2013 9:48 am

Alright, the vote on the current debated section will begin at 7pm and last 48 hours. Usual rules, vote's made outside of this time period will not count etc etc.
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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:24 am

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:Alright, the vote on the current debated section will begin at 7pm and last 48 hours. Usual rules, vote's made outside of this time period will not count etc etc.

OOC: Please link the bills at vote next time.

IUPA: Aye
TFHEA: Aye
CAA: Abstain
RCDACA: Aye
FABA: Aye
BCA: Abstain
FIA: Nay (Uses non-existent currency, and I also can't see the point of it.)
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Postby Next Washington » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:40 am

Macedonian Grand Empire wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:None other than our Treasurer Next Washington.


Ex treasurer. I replaced him with Nihil.
Did not say sack him due to that being negative connotation.

other bills used currency units too... well, i can change mine to pound, that's, according to the Currency Reference Interim Clarification Act, one of our interim currencies...
and the poinnt behind it is described and pure socio-economics
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Postby Next Washington » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:51 am

- Internet User Protection Act - AYE
-The First Higher Education Act - NAY
-Creative Aurentina Act - NAY
-Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act - AYE
-First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act - AYE
-Building Code Act - AYE
-Family Incentive Act - AYE
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Postby New Bierstaat » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:53 am

IUPA: YES
The First Higher Education Act: NO
Creative Aurentina Act: YES
Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act: NO
First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act: YES
Building Code Act: NO
Family Incentive Act: NO
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Postby Ainin » Sat Nov 30, 2013 10:55 am

AYE
Internet User Protection Act
Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act
Creative Aurentina Act
First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act
Building Code Act

NAY
First Higher Education Act
Family Incentive Act

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Postby Phocidaea » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:03 am

IUPA: Aye
FHEA: Nay
CAA: Aye
RCDACA: Aye
FABA: Abstain
BCA: Aye
FIA: Nay
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Postby Divitaen » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:08 am

Internet User Protection Act - NAY
The First Higher Education Act - NAY
Creative Aurentina Act - NAY
Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act - NAY
First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act - AYE
Building Code Act - AYE
Family Incentive Act - AYE
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Postby Minarchist States » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:12 am

IUPA: AYE
TFHEA: NAY
CAA: AYE
RCDAC: NAY
FABA: AYE
BCA: NAY
FIA: NAY

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Postby The Saint James Islands » Sat Nov 30, 2013 11:42 am

Internet User Protection Act: AYE
The First Higher Education Act: NO
Creative Aurentina Act: AYE
Revenue Collection and Defence of Aurentine Citizenship Act: Abstain
First Amendment to the Broadcasting Act: AYE
Building Code Act: NO
Family Incentive Act: HELL NO
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