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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:05 pm

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Kamchastkia wrote:I say we begin twerking, since it represents the beginning of voting.

:rofl:

We need to be allowed to motion to end debate early. Somebody turn off that damn music
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:06 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Geilinor wrote: :rofl:

We need to be allowed to motion to end debate early. Somebody turn off that damn music

Taras Ignatiev begins twerking.

OOC: If I saw Dimitry Medvedev twerk IRL my life would be complete.
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:11 pm

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Postby Unicario » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:33 pm

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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:48 pm

Seeing as nobody was paying attention Boris opened his little gold snuff box and took a pinch up each nostril before turning back to business.


"Honorable members, let's turn back to the issues at hand. Surely somebody must have something to say about the first amendment to the broadcasting act?"
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:50 pm

The Vice President marched into the chamber and nearly vomited his lunch upon seeing Taros' disgusting actions. Assuming the chair, he announced "Senator Ignatiev is to be removed from the chamber for 20 minutes, under the laws of common decency."
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:50 pm

*Walks into the center of the senate building and begins twerking again.*

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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:50 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:Seeing as nobody was paying attention Boris opened his little gold snuff box and took a pinch up each nostril before turning back to business.


"Honorable members, let's turn back to the issues at hand. Surely somebody must have something to say about the first amendment to the broadcasting act?"

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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:51 pm

The family incentives act is a flagrant waste of money and is not needed.
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:53 pm

New Zepuha wrote:The family incentives act is a flagrant waste of money and is not needed.

Not to mention it refers to a nonexistent currency.
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:56 pm

Ainin wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:The family incentives act is a flagrant waste of money and is not needed.

Not to mention it refers to a nonexistent currency.

What is a NSG$?
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:57 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Ainin wrote:Not to mention it refers to a nonexistent currency.

What is a NSG$?

Serious? The bill says that? Who wrote it?
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Postby Corenea » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:58 pm

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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:58 pm

Beta Test wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:What is a NSG$?

Serious? The bill says that? Who wrote it?

None other than our Treasurer Next Washington.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:00 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
Beta Test wrote:Serious? The bill says that? Who wrote it?

None other than our Treasurer Next Washington.

I was going to guess Dragomere. Anyway, it's surprising to see a flagrant waste of money come from a self-proclaimed economic conservative.
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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:01 pm

Ainin wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:The family incentives act is a flagrant waste of money and is not needed.

Not to mention it refers to a nonexistent currency.


"Well giving a free monopoly game to each child about that online forum, what's it called? Ah yes. NationStates, it could be educational. What do you think senators?"
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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:07 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
Ainin wrote:Not to mention it refers to a nonexistent currency.


"Well giving a free monopoly game to each child about that online forum, what's it called? Ah yes. NationStates, it could be educational. What do you think senators?"

OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:08 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
"Well giving a free monopoly game to each child about that online forum, what's it called? Ah yes. NationStates, it could be educational. What do you think senators?"

OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.

OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:10 pm

Beta Test wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.

OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?

OOC: *faints*
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Postby Minarchist States » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:11 pm

Criticisms in bold.


Family Incentives Act


Urgency: Moderate|Category: Domestics and Development|Co-Sponsors: Tundland, Britanno, Lamaredia, NEO Rome Republic, Divitaen



Foreword
Every modern civilization relies on enough young people who support the older ones, directly by caring about them, or indirectly, by taxes. Or like in the old days, when taking care of them was voluntary, you know? And we didn't have to pay taxes? But nowadays we see that the age pyramid changes dramatically: The old people are getting more and more, while there are areas where people have an average child number at or below 1. That means, this one child has to (partially) pay for three people in the future (parents + itself). Key word is partially. The parents saved up all their lives for retirement, and the child who feels the need to pay back his debts to his parents always does so out of the kindness of his heart, even when he doesn't have to with private retirement centers and charitable caretakers and all that jazz. Now, this quote is about 1/1, meaning one tax-paying person indirectly cares for another one (a retired person, student, child, ...).
In the short term this quote must be stopped from raising, in the long term even lowered. Therefore the Aurentina government shall provide special incentives, directly and indirectly, for families. Thereby the number of children will rise and the quote will lower.




I. In the following, "family" is defined as a minumum of two people who have one or more child(ren) of which they are fully responsible.
"Parents" is defined as the people, regardless of their sex, who are registered legal guardians of the child(ren).

II. Families shall be granted the following direct incentives:
a. A direct money transfer from the government to the parents each month. This payment shall be 100 NSG$(our currency?) per child between 0 and 18 years per month. If the child is between 18 and 24 years old, this payment shall be 50 NSG$ per child and per month. Yano. Way too much.
b. This amount of money must only be paid if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. Both parents must receive the offer of 5% more free days from their employers. Wth? Why? If the child has to take care of them obv they aren't worth to their employer anymore. Employers shouldn't be required to do this!
d. Direct incentives end when the child reaches the age of 25 years. It should end at 18. That's when parents can kick their child out of the house - after that they are no more liable to the "child" and vise versa.

III. Families shall be granted the following indirect incentives:
a. One of the parents shall be allowed to lower his fiscal relevant income by 500 NGS$ per child and per year. (I think it's an incentive for parents to have more kids like the Nazis tried)
b. This reduction may only happen if the residence of the child is the same as the residence of the parents.
c. This reduction may only happen until the child reaches the age of 25 years.

IV. IV. Single families, meaning one or more of the partners left the partnership by cancelling the relationship or death resulting in only one person remaining as the child(ren)'s legal guardian must receive the following treatment:
a. The incentives mentioned in II.a. and II.c. must be doubled. The age limits stay the same. TOO MUCH
b. The reduction mentioned in III.a. must be doubled. The age limit mentioned in III.c. must remain the same.
c. II.b. and III.b. also apply for single families.
d. II.d. also applies for single families.


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Postby New Zepuha » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:12 pm

So wait, what I see is social security.

Wth? Why?


Since when has this been in the English language. How did it get past the proofreaders!
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Postby President Pro-Tempore of the Senate » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:15 pm

New Zepuha wrote:
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
"Well giving a free monopoly game to each child about that online forum, what's it called? Ah yes. NationStates, it could be educational. What do you think senators?"

OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.


OOC: :lol2: who gets to play DiCaprio's character?

Beta Test wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.

OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?


OOC: Yes it would exist here.

Ainin wrote:
Beta Test wrote:OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?

OOC: *faints*


OOC: *Throws bucket of cold water on the prostrate figure.*
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Postby Beta Test » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:18 pm

President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
New Zepuha wrote:OOC: NS Ception, our kids create the NSG senate in our universe, who do exactly what just happened.


OOC: :lol2: who gets to play DiCaprio's character?

Beta Test wrote:OOC: NationStates does exist in our universe doesn't it? Does this mean the NSG Senate exists in our universe?


OOC: Yes it would exist here.

Ainin wrote:OOC: *faints*


OOC: *Throws bucket of cold water on the prostrate figure.*

OOC: If the NSG Senate does exist... *kills self trying to comprehend the possibilities*
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Postby Corenea » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:20 pm

Beta Test wrote:
President Pro-Tempore of the Senate wrote:
OOC: :lol2: who gets to play DiCaprio's character?



OOC: Yes it would exist here.



OOC: *Throws bucket of cold water on the prostrate figure.*

OOC: If the NSG Senate does exist... *kills self trying to comprehend the possibilities*

My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .
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Postby Ainin » Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:21 pm

Corenea wrote:
Beta Test wrote:OOC: If the NSG Senate does exist... *kills self trying to comprehend the possibilities*

My character would be an old, male, Christian socialist racist from the NDP in ProgCoa :o .

A socialist racist? We would probably already have kicked you out of our caucus. :P
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