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by **The Nihilistic view** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:05 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
Unicario wrote:
But it requires a process that is abysmal at best to do so.

I agree that the American process is too difficult, but if it can be amended by the Senate with a simple majority, there's not much point calling it a Constitution.

A constitution is the name given to a supreme body of law, it is not the name of a specific method for amending an act/law.

by **Phocidaea** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:09 pm

The Nihilistic view wrote:
Phocidaea wrote:I agree that the American process is too difficult, but if it can be amended by the Senate with a simple majority, there's not much point calling it a Constitution.

A constitution is the name given to a supreme body of law, it is not the name of a specific method for amending an act/law.

There is no supremacy if it can be changed as easily as any other law.

For example, my hypothetical law defies the Constitution, which means it overrides the Constitution, which means it is equally sovereign compared with the Constitution.

by **Yanalia** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:11 pm

I vote in favour of the Constitution.

by **New Zepuha** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:13 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
A constitution is the name given to a supreme body of law, it is not the name of a specific method for amending an act/law.

There is no supremacy if it can be changed as easily as any other law.

For example, my hypothetical law defies the Constitution, which means it overrides the Constitution, which means it is equally sovereign compared with the Constitution.

Thanks to statutory interpretation that wont be the case.

by **Glasgia** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:14 pm

I vote FOR the constitution

by **The Nihilistic view** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:16 pm

Phocidaea wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:
A constitution is the name given to a supreme body of law, it is not the name of a specific method for amending an act/law.

There is no supremacy if it can be changed as easily as any other law.

For example, my hypothetical law defies the Constitution, which means it overrides the Constitution, which means it is equally sovereign compared with the Constitution.

Then it would be a constitutional amendment and require a 2/3rds majority to pass. :palm:

by **New Zepuha** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:18 pm

I vote Aye.

by **Pesda** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:29 pm

by **Geilinor** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:40 pm

I vote Aye.

by **Central and Eastern Visayas** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 2:43 pm

by **Octuagesimo Octavo** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:15 pm

by **Costa Fierro** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:17 pm

by **The State of Czecho-Slovakia** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:39 pm

I vote in favor of the Constitution.

by **Bering** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:45 pm

I vote Aye.

by **Agritum** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:47 pm

Aye.

(New Democrats member here)

by **FreeOlesia** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:48 pm

I vote aye

by **The Saint James Islands** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:22 pm

Given its inconsistent formatting, I vote NO.

by **Britanno** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:25 pm

The Saint James Islands wrote:Given its inconsistent formatting, I vote NO.

Really? You expect me to completely redo all the formatting because different people work in different ways?

by **The Nihilistic view** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 4:32 pm

Britanno wrote:
The Saint James Islands wrote:Given its inconsistent formatting, I vote NO.

Really? You expect me to completely redo all the formatting because different people work in different ways?

I have to admit that's probably the most amusing reason somebody will vote Nay.

by **Ceni** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:10 pm

Aye to the Constitution.

by **The Union of the West** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:46 pm

Aye to the Constitution

by **The Liberated Territories** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:21 pm

I vote Aye on the constitution.

by **People Who Say Ni** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:53 pm

by **Kiptoke** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 6:53 pm

By all means, AYE.

by **Chelta** » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:36 pm

I vote NO to the Constitution.

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